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Turn the clock back and give Paul Hurst his strength and conditioning coach, or whatever else he was asking for in an effort to take this club forward. I refuse to believe that any of his demands were unreasonable.
He's been the only manager during the last 20 years that has brought any success to this town. You should've just backed him and not listened to the small number of whinging fans who didn't like him because he supposedly never praised us, or sounded dour, or was from Yorkshire, etc.
He got us promoted. He signed the best asset we've had since Ryan Bennett. He proved himself. He'd have proven himself again in League 2 had we just believed in him (which we had no problem doing in the National League, funnily enough, when patience was at a premium).
I think you're grossly misrepresenting people's opposition to Paul Hurst as manager. And misrepresenting the number.
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KingstonMariner |
September 10, 2017, 7:02pm |
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From what I gleaned from previous fans' forums, I think he believes he can wait for an offer and either be bought out or hand the club over in return for some investment meaning he can recoup some of his money later if there's some "football fortune" (huuuuge transfer, cup run, Sheikh/Oligarch buy-out etc).
I think JF is being wildly optimistic in holding out for some "football fortune" and if he wants to ensure a good legacy, should look at removing himself from the scene, either by triggering an automatic "benign loan write-off" or some sort of debt-into-equity conversion in the event of a takeover, or by just entrusting the football club to the people of Grimsby by cancelling his loans (subject to accountants/tax considerations) and walking away completely, paving the way for others.
I suspect the exit plan is linked to getting the new stadium built. The theory is that will provide us with the infrastructure to grow as a club and increase revenues. That looks like a long shot ("it's all gone quiet over there") and looks like the act of a race horse owner gambling that his next winner will solve his problem.
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lukeo |
September 10, 2017, 7:23pm |
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Genuine question, what would it take for gtfc fans to take over the club? Exeter is fan and family run and runs very successfully. Genuine question, if it's a rediculous amount fair enough, but look what we did for Operation Promotion.. If Fenty was willing to give us a good price to step aside I'm sure we'd raise massive amount because we're mental like that!!
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Swansea_Mariner |
September 10, 2017, 7:31pm |
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Genuine question, what would it take for gtfc fans to take over the club? Exeter is fan and family run and runs very successfully. Genuine question, if it's a rediculous amount fair enough, but look what we did for Operation Promotion.. If Fenty was willing to give us a good price to step aside I'm sure we'd raise massive amount because we're mental like that!!
Well I'd wager the cost is that of the value of the benign loans, did someone say 4.1m. We should get a discount for the shares that were given away though! 😂
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Badger57 |
September 10, 2017, 7:34pm |
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There seems to be a lot of one red crosses here, Hi John, feeling the love?
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September 10, 2017, 7:50pm |
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From what I gleaned from previous fans' forums, I think he believes he can wait for an offer and either be bought out or hand the club over in return for some investment meaning he can recoup some of his money later if there's some "football fortune" (huuuuge transfer, cup run, Sheikh/Oligarch buy-out etc).
I think JF is being wildly optimistic in holding out for some "football fortune" and if he wants to ensure a good legacy, should look at removing himself from the scene, either by triggering an automatic "benign loan write-off" or some sort of debt-into-equity conversion in the event of a takeover, or by just entrusting the football club to the people of Grimsby by cancelling his loans (subject to accountants/tax considerations) and walking away completely, paving the way for others.
It certainly shows twisted thinking imho. If you wanted or even depended on football fortune then you can either cross your fingers or try and do something to bring it about. After OP the fans were buoyant and all it took was for Fenty and say Mullen to make a little investment on the basis of speculate to accumulate. The figures are largely irrelevant but let's say the playing budget was going to be £1m. If The two directors put in say £150k each that would have made it far easier to get the 3 or 4 top quality players in to give it a real go. ( We all saw that last season the League was not fantastic and we could have made at least the play offs) Once you have secured your signings you go public, saying what you have done and then you want the fans to get behind the plan. It would have instantly boosted gate revenue and if the right players were chosen would be self financing. Just think what an honest and open approach may do for moral and additional support. Worst case scenario is it doesn't work and you fall short but I bet some of the additional income would offset the investment. There will be lots of other ideas which are worth considering but just to cut cut and cut some more squeezes the life out of the club. We had a brilliant chance to use the momentum of promotion instead JF quickly jumped on the sparks of enthusiasm with his ultra cautious outlook
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September 10, 2017, 9:06pm |
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I'd just like to say, that as pathetic as the gutless hoofball we are currently playing, is the sound of those harping on about Hurst and how we should have believed in him, or the conspiracy to oust progressive top coach of tomorrow Marcus Bignot. There are about four threads full of a load of f***ing cobblers about this and other related guff. Some people have got very short memories and the ability to change their tune because they're unhappy or frustrated. I'd say about 80% of Town fans were sick to death of Hurst about a year before he finally cupped his ears then sneakily nicked off. And Bignot? This board was filled with post after post trying to fathom what the hell he was trying to do and infuriated by his verbal blather. Now all of a sudden, we didn't mean it, some people are pretending they never posted what they did at the time (have a look back some of you) and these men have been squandered by the club. Give over!
We should roll our sleeves up and f***ing get on with it, and that goes for the players too. What's done is done. Whining on and on about the past or the major shareholder - demanding he come on here and explain himself! As if anything he could say could make it better! Let's get 10-15 games under our belt, and if things haven't improved, then decisions will pretty much make themselves anyway. Get a good result Tuesday night, and win at home next Saturday and the end won't quite be nigh will it. If only we'd believed old sniffer Doig eh! What have we done?! FFS.
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TheRealJohnLewis |
September 10, 2017, 9:36pm |
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MuddyWaters |
September 10, 2017, 9:45pm |
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According to last year's accounts, year ending May 16, directors loans equal £2,209,700 and Fenty's shares amount to £975,000, which means you need just under £3.2 million to get rid, unless, I have missed something in the accounts. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00034760/filing-history
I think you may have gotyourfactsright
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TheRealJohnLewis |
September 10, 2017, 9:48pm |
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It'll be interesting come November trying to dissect the accounts to see where the Bogle money went.
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