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Until he steps down, this Club will go nowhere!
I don't think he wants promotion because he is worried about operating costs in the higher division.
Completely 100% right, it's about him and his ego!!
If he loved this Club so much, he'd let it go and release the ransoms of his silly little benign loans!!
As for the Bogle money, I reckon he splashed loads out on Slade!!
Club is spiralling into to Doldrums once more!
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Absolutely this. I'm not old enough to remember Bill Carr but my old man told me he used to get a lot of stick and that was when things weren't going well a couple of divisions above this. We've just had the worst 15 years of the club's history, all under the watch of one man and very little seems to have been said about it, startling really.
I think people have become resigned to Fenty, because there is no obvious way to get him out. Every man and his dog knows the problems stem from the top, and managers are there to take the flak for the lack of proper investment and the inability of the club to really move forward. I think it also common knowledge that Mr. Fenty likes to be top dog; even new investment is not really a goer because he finds it difficult to work with other people and having to share the limelight. The only way is for Fenty to be bought out which won't happen either as no one is going to pay him for his mistakes, hence the apathy/acceptance from the fans. Having said all that if we really do get caught up in another relegation scrap I think he will start to feel the heat.
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September 10, 2017, 4:33pm |
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Haven't seen the last few years accounts but I have a question for anyone who does;
Has JF's loans or shareholding increased at all in, say, the last 3 years?
I am just trying to ascertain if he has made any further investment OR if the club at the current level is essentially funded by the fans and commercial income?
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MuddyWaters |
September 10, 2017, 4:51pm |
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Absolutely this. I'm not old enough to remember Bill Carr but my old man told me he used to get a lot of stick and that was when things weren't going well a couple of divisions above this. We've just had the worst 15 years of the club's history, all under the watch of one man and very little seems to have been said about it, startling really.
I do remember Bill Carr, a lovely bloke who ended up carrying the can for not taking us beyond the Championship. We've now got a bloke intent on taking us into oblivion for the second time, mainly because he's engineered a situation where we can't get rid of him.
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September 10, 2017, 5:05pm |
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I think it's time to call Fenty to the fishy to justify himself like fans he has called to the club. So come on Fenty, your quick to have your two pence when you want, your pretty quite now though. What do you have to say for yourself.
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HackneyHaddock |
September 10, 2017, 5:51pm |
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Like most here I'm just at a loss as to where we go from here. It's abundantly clear that JF is a millstone around the neck of the club, both in terms of his attitude and interpersonal skills, and the "Benign" £3m revolver pointed at the club's temple.
Like many, during the non-league years, I was prepared to accept his egomaniacal benevolence as a price worth paying at a time when we needed subsidy to stay afloat. Now, back in the league, we should (should) be able to at least break even, stabilise and at least run the club in a competent manner until someone or something shows up.
I've no idea who might come in to take over, whether it be a local consortium, David Ross or whoever, but one thing looks certain, that won't happen while JF is at the helm.
Perhaps the short term aim of the fans needs to be to clarify exactly what these loans are, and what JFs exit conditions are, then to up the pressure from there?
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MuddyWaters |
September 10, 2017, 6:12pm |
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Like most here I'm just at a loss as to where we go from here. It's abundantly clear that JF is a millstone around the neck of the club, both in terms of his attitude and interpersonal skills, and the "Benign" £3m revolver pointed at the club's temple.
Like many, during the non-league years, I was prepared to accept his egomaniacal benevolence as a price worth paying at a time when we needed subsidy to stay afloat. Now, back in the league, we should (should) be able to at least break even, stabilise and at least run the club in a competent manner until someone or something shows up.
I've no idea who might come in to take over, whether it be a local consortium, David Ross or whoever, but one thing looks certain, that won't happen while JF is at the helm.
Perhaps the short term aim of the fans needs to be to clarify exactly what these loans are, and what JFs exit conditions are, then to up the pressure from there?
Most businessmen have an exit strategy. I'm struggling to work out what Fenty's is, although I think there's a growing number who might be able to assist his thought process.
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September 10, 2017, 6:14pm |
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Turn the clock back and give Paul Hurst his strength and conditioning coach, or whatever else he was asking for in an effort to take this club forward. I refuse to believe that any of his demands were unreasonable.
He's been the only manager during the last 20 years that has brought any success to this town. You should've just backed him and not listened to the small number of whinging fans who didn't like him because he supposedly never praised us, or sounded dour, or was from Yorkshire, etc.
He got us promoted. He signed the best asset we've had since Ryan Bennett. He proved himself. He'd have proven himself again in League 2 had we just believed in him (which we had no problem doing in the National League, funnily enough, when patience was at a premium).
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HackneyHaddock |
September 10, 2017, 6:27pm |
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Most businessmen have an exit strategy. I'm struggling to work out what Fenty's is, although I think there's a growing number who might be able to assist his thought process.
From what I gleaned from previous fans' forums, I think he believes he can wait for an offer and either be bought out or hand the club over in return for some investment meaning he can recoup some of his money later if there's some "football fortune" (huuuuge transfer, cup run, Sheikh/Oligarch buy-out etc). I think JF is being wildly optimistic in holding out for some "football fortune" and if he wants to ensure a good legacy, should look at removing himself from the scene, either by triggering an automatic "benign loan write-off" or some sort of debt-into-equity conversion in the event of a takeover, or by just entrusting the football club to the people of Grimsby by cancelling his loans (subject to accountants/tax considerations) and walking away completely, paving the way for others.
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HertsGTFC |
September 10, 2017, 6:28pm |
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Turn the clock back and give Paul Hurst his strength and conditioning coach, or whatever else he was asking for in an effort to take this club forward. I refuse to believe that any of his demands were unreasonable.
He's been the only manager during the last 20 years that has brought any success to this town. You should've just backed him and not listened to the small number of whinging fans who didn't like him because he supposedly never praised us, or sounded dour, or was from Yorkshire, etc.
He got us promoted. He signed the best asset we've had since Ryan Bennett. He proved himself. He'd have proven himself again in League 2 had we just believed in him (which we had no problem doing in the National League, funnily enough, when patience was at a premium).
I doubt the S&C coach would have solved the problem, felt like a bit of a smoke screen that sited both sides IMHO.
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