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grimps
September 10, 2017, 1:44pm
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Bignot was sacked because we was losing too many games shipping in 4 or 5 goals , Slades team is now doing the same so I guess without some sort of improvment he'll soon end up going the same way
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Quoted from arryarryarry


We may not drop out of the League but many on here said that last time.

Yes it is early on in the season but the naysayers said that last time.

The fact that we have an ageing squad consisting of what some might regard as journeymen, forwards who look unlikely to get into double figures, defenders who are making schoolboy errors nearly every game, players who at times look as if they don't give a toss reminds me so much of Neil Woods time as manager and we know how well that went.

I'm not in any way saying sack Russell Slade now but if this form continues then he has to be gone by Christmas we must not do what we did with Neil Woods and hang on in the hope he can turn it around and I just hope JF has learnt that lesson.


I suppose it is a fact that everyone is ageing but our squad is not particularly old,
3 defenders a midfielder and a striker who are over 30 makes 5 out of what 25/26? May have missed one but it is a myth we have an old squad.

Regarding the opening post I just think the club is stale from the top. The major shareholder, the CEO, the accounts team and the office staff have all been in situ for decades. Stuck in their ways. I think every business benefits from evolving, adapting to change and seeing fresh ideas being brought it. It never happens with GTFC.
The one breath of fresh air we had when LJL Adid his Christmas video etc was brought in by the young chap who had a bit of a fresh approach but he soon moved on and we are back to Dale heading up he PR.

Not saying change for change sake but the whole club is tired and it shows.

It just appears to be JSF's way or the highway. Time to stand aside, even if your loans have to remain and let a vibrant new board have a go
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Quoted from grimps
Bignot was sacked because we was losing too many games shipping in 4 or 5 goals , Slades team is now doing the same so I guess without some sort of improvment he'll soon end up going the same way


That is the bottom line isn't it? Slade must start getting the team to gel or he will go the same way as any other manager. I supported his appointment at the time, but if Coventry fans were right and he has lost that spark that every manager needs he will be a goner. He knows this himself of course, and hopefully he will be working very hard to improve the teams performance.

On a more fundamental level, although a decent manager is the most important employee at a club, it is hard to see us doing anything too special without new investment. But to get new investment we need a board that is happy to accept it, and agree on a more collegiate approach. It isn't going to happen is it?

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Quoted from ginnywings



I get that people are p1ssed off and want to have a rant and i'm sure the "happy clapper" line will get thrown out very shortly, but form can and does change quickly in football.

. Beginning to wish i'd not bought it but i'm stuck for the long haul now.


Probably what Slade is thinking about some of the players he brought in.


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Quoted from grimps
Bignot was sacked because we was losing too many games shipping in 4 or 5 goals , Slades team is now doing the same so I guess without some sort of improvment he'll soon end up going the same way


Slade's record is quite a bit worse

MB:

P 27      W 9      D 7      L 11

RS

P 13     W 4      D 2      L 7

I think it's fair to say that MB was sacked partly for non-football reasons, his results were not bad enough in their own right to be sacked. Slade's only defence  is that he hasn't been given long enough.


'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.  
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Quoted from kevikov



Most likely because picking players and assessing quality is not his job? And most fans would be annoyed if he did assume control of player aquisition and scouting. Those two questions are for the managers imo.



You are right it is not his job but did the manager ask for a lump sum to buy a decent one ?

Plus when we had got to the stage of having about 30 players on the books why did he not ask before it got to that state, why do you need so many players ?

In my opinion most of the Bogle money has been wasted on players wages some of which was never going to play a game for us.

Or does Fenty say its your job you do whatever you want I will not interfere , I don't think so.


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When enough fans wake up to the fact that Fenty is the problem and start to act together to place pressure on him to change/leave/show some responsibility for his actions then we may well move forward. Until then we a stuck in this fenty lead misery cycle.

Would be nice to see one of our big away supports really direct some vocal thought on his tenure as chairman instead of some of our players who irrelevant of ability are not the root of all evil.


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Quoted from MuddyWaters


At least Bignot seemed to have a plan, Slade seems to prefer quantity over quality. Just my opinion, but Bignot seemed to have a bigger plan than Fenty was prepared to finance and we're now left with a manager on the way down rather than one on the way up.


Did he????
Seems to me he just put names on bits of paper through em in the air.
The first 11 name to hit the dressing room floor got a game.


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Quoted from TAGG


Did he????
Seems to me he just put names on bits of paper through em in the air.
The first 11 name to hit the dressing room floor got a game.


He had a long term plan,

BUT

Had not worked out a short term one before he was shown the door.


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Quoted from lowerfindus
When enough fans wake up to the fact that Fenty is the problem and start to act together to place pressure on him to change/leave/show some responsibility for his actions then we may well move forward. Until then we a stuck in this fenty lead misery cycle.

Would be nice to see one of our big away supports really direct some vocal thought on his tenure as chairman instead of some of our players who irrelevant of ability are not the root of all evil.


Absolutely this. I'm not old enough to remember Bill Carr but my old man told me he used to get a lot of stick and that was when things weren't going well a couple of divisions above this. We've just had the worst 15 years of the club's history, all under the watch of one man and very little seems to have been said about it, startling really.
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