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April 11, 2017, 4:54pm
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Didnt he nearly sign for Shrewsbury in League 1?


Rumoured but nothing factual, plus no evidence that even if correct he was going in as their first choice keeper. I was surprised at timing of his dropping but once you had seen Henderson in action it was then a surprise the change had not come earlier. Quality keepers make such a difference, a la Beasant in that 7 game loan spell and was it also another Henderson in Newell's first season when he came in on loan from Preston and won us several points.

I would gladly have Henderson back for next season on loan
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Big part of a managers job is man management. Generally a squad of 20 who all think they're Messi or Ronaldo and have egos the size of a house. A good manager will unite the squad around him.
Thought PH did that well and weeded out the bad apples quickly.
Maybe MB couldn't do it but the new man will??  
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Mckeown is a quality keeper....ok he's made a couple of mistakes but who hasn't....the only difference is usually they cost u a goal.

Id challenge if anyone can think of a better keeper since Mildenhall or even as far back as Davison.


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Mckeown is a quality keeper....ok he's made a couple of mistakes but who hasn't....the only difference is usually they cost u a goal.

Id challenge if anyone can think of a better keeper since Mildenhall or even as far back as Davison.


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Henderson


Both of them.
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Sorry mate I didnt see the "if"... Its just to me a lot of the posts on here and social media are toxic. "Fans" arguing about non-facts, digging into the players and the club based on no knowledge whatsoever of what has happened - Theres even some guy writing Slade Out, before he started!

I cant see that they would fire a manager lightly, and I imagine something must have gone on, but that is the situation. Russell Slade is being appointed tomorrow, we can do nothing but support him and hope that some of the success and fun of that season in 2005 comes back. As fans that is all we can hope for, and we show it by cheering and supporting our team. Posting about what fenty might have done/what involvement Macca had/slade playing boring hoofball is so counter productive.



Agree but if the Club/Board could come out and clear up why they've sacked a manager who 6 months ago they had every faith in, then the fans wouldn't be arguing or discussing rumours of what's gone on. Communication problem again at GTFC.

The only things i can see has happened is either:

a) the rumours of senior players speaking to Fenty has some truth to it. I've heard from a couple of people this is the case and that it started with a throwaway comment in a discussion about something else, not a case of a bunch of players running up to knock on Fenty's door.

b) Bignot and Fenty fell out because Fenty didn't want to pay for a S&C Coach, overnight stays before distant away games, and a few other bits that would cost the Club an extra few quid. And they sacked him because he said something out of turn or accused the Club of lacking ambition or professionalism.

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c) the new manager had just suddenly become available and is someone who would've been the number one contender if he'd been available when Hurst left. And they've got rid of MB to get in the man they would've wanted.

But as usual the lack of information or clarity from the board (Fenty) causes this mess.

Regards Slade being appointed....

I'm open to him coming back. Not against it and I wasn't jumping up with excitement either.
When he left us last time i dont know whether it was down to him or Fenty. Who knows? Could have been either's fault or both. Fenty's fallen out with everyone else in the last 10 years so who knows.

I was as devastated as everyone else with our lack of performance at Cardiff in 2006 but i doubt Slade sent the team out to not give a excrement and play poorly. I'll form opinions of him coming back based on his ability as a manager and how he might do for GTFC in 2017, not what happened off the pitch over 10 years ago.

I don't think the football under him was as long ball as people make out. It was more direct than a "build from the back" strategy but it's important to note theres' a bit difference between a long ball (punting it forward giving the striker a 50-50 to challenge for in the air) and a long pass.

The only thing for Slade will be that he might be a bit hamstrung in terms of summer rebuilding because we have so many players under contract that he probably won't want.


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April 11, 2017, 5:33pm
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Agree but if the Club/Board could come out and clear up why they've sacked a manager who 6 months ago they had every faith in, then the fans wouldn't be arguing or discussing rumours of what's gone on. Communication problem again at GTFC.

The only things i can see has happened is either:

a) the rumours of senior players speaking to Fenty has some truth to it. I've heard from a couple of people this is the case and that it started with a throwaway comment in a discussion about something else, not a case of a bunch of players running up to knock on Fenty's door.

b) Bignot and Fenty fell out because Fenty didn't want to pay for a S&C Coach, overnight stays before distant away games, and a few other bits that would cost the Club an extra few quid. And they sacked him because he said something out of turn or accused the Club of lacking ambition or professionalism.

or

c) the new manager had just suddenly become available and is someone who would've been the number one contender if he'd been available when Hurst left. And they've got rid of MB to get in the man they would've wanted.

But as usual the lack of information or clarity from the board (Fenty) causes this mess.

Regards Slade being appointed....

I'm open to him coming back. Not against it and I wasn't jumping up with excitement either.
When he left us last time i dont know whether it was down to him or Fenty. Who knows? Could have been either's fault or both. Fenty's fallen out with everyone else in the last 10 years so who knows.

I was as devastated as everyone else with our lack of performance at Cardiff in 2006 but i doubt Slade sent the team out to not give a excrement and play poorly. I'll form opinions of him coming back based on his ability as a manager and how he might do for GTFC in 2017, not what happened off the pitch over 10 years ago.

I don't think the football under him was as long ball as people make out. It was more direct than a "build from the back" strategy but it's important to note theres' a bit difference between a long ball (punting it forward giving the striker a 50-50 to challenge for in the air) and a long pass.

The only thing for Slade will be that he might be a bit hamstrung in terms of summer rebuilding because we have so many players under contract that he probably won't want.


I agree this should be cleared up, but if there is an Employment Law issue then clearly it wont be. What I mean is that its sad that in the lack of information people are blaming players/fenty/the club etc... It doesnt really seem like the behaviour of supporters to me. Seriously read the thread on Performance against cambridge in which someone is genuinely saying "because of what might or might not have happened the players have to perform or they can take a walk" Thats incredible.


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He's said he wouldn't have changed so much if he didn't think he had time at the club. Think he's been let down myself.



He also said his remit didn't include making the play-offs this season, which obviously must have come from JF or the Board. All the signings in January must have been approved by the Board and his reasoning must have been understood  by them also. I do feel he has been let down but he is a victim of his own over enthusiasm to build too far ahead.


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I meant permanent signings.  Both were very good keepers but both were on loan.  I guess it depends if your happy to go with a loanee for the season.


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I meant permanent signings.  Both were very good keepers but both were on loan.  I guess it depends if your happy to go with a loanee for the season.


I would go with Henderson (2)  if we could have him for a season.
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