850k

According to et town have rejected a 850k bid for omar from Rotherham .

Good!

Before Xmas I would of probably taken £850k

I would be happy with anything over 1millon IMO

I wouldnt be happy if he goes this season tbh, we need him.
Come the end of the season if he has banged 30 goals away there is no reason 2 million wouldnt be achievable.

Quoted from marinernige

According to et town have rejected a 850k bid for omar from Rotherham .

And how does ET know this?  

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Quoted from Les Brechin

And how does ET know this?  

He read it on The Fishy?  

Nothing on the telegraph web site.

Do you mean et as in extra terrestrial?

In my time I recall a handful of players we sold for big money.

Mendonca (£700K ish?)
Gary Croft (£1m+)
John Oster (£1m+)
Bennet (£1m)

Omar...(£1m+ TBC?)

I know it's difficult to compare, but let's assume prices for players in today's market, how much would we have been looking for any of the above?

Great news. And finally a more realistic bid, reports of 250k from Barnet and 350k made my blood boil.

I'd like to think there has been meetings between board/management/player and all have agreed on a minimum price to be agreed and that we reject/stand firm until such a bid comes in.

Plenty of numbers bandished around but I really think anything under £1.5 should not be considered.

Just hope we can get our business done before the bidding wars commence as I fear that once clubs know we have some money in the bank, their playerss valuations will go up and we may have to pay over the odds.

It is now reported on the telegraph web site.

Think it looks more likely he will leave in Jan if we are edging towards the million pound mark. I genuinely can't see them turning down a million.

Quoted from GTFC_85

In my time I recall a handful of players we sold for big money.

Mendonca (£700K ish?)
Gary Croft (£1m+)
John Oster (£1m+)
Bennet (£1m)

Omar...(£1m+ TBC?)

I know it's difficult to compare, but let's assume prices for players in today's market, how much would we have been looking for any of the above?

I am not sure you can place market values on players in the Jan window. I think that the valuation/price paid is whatever the purchaser stands o lose or gain by signing the player and it working out. If a team is fighting to go up or stay up then in these crazy days they are likely to pay more than a buyer who is mid table and building on a plan for the future.

Either way offers in excess of 1 million only I reckon and possibly 1.5. Who knows? When clubs with money get desperate then anything cn happen......................... As a fan my preference is that he stays until the end of this season.

  

**** a million, it's 2016/2017. Kemar Roofe is the same age as Omar Bogle is now, scored 26 goals by the end of the season for Oxford United and went for £3 million. That's where we should be aiming at.

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What sell on do Solihull have?

Quoted from Les Brechin

And how does ET know this?  

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his mums best mate works for the club.  So she found out and then told E.T. when he














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Quoted from Nelly GTFC

**** a million, it's 2016. Kemar Roofe was the same age as Omar Bogle is now, scored 26 goals by the end of the season for Oxford United and went for £3 million. That's where we should be aiming at.

Seems a reasonable yardstick. I would even wait till end of season to get the money he is worth. We wont get as good a replacement for free to get us into the playoffs

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original story here. they say he came to us on a free transfer so I wouldnt know how much to trust their story

Fenty shouldn't even bother to start negotiating until someone tables at least double that. There's no rush to sell him in this window and we hold all the cards.

Quoted from TheGoalKipper

Seems a reasonable yardstick. I would even wait till end of season to get the money he is worth. We wont get as good a replacement for free to get us into the playoffs

If we sold Omar for the right fee, why would we be restricted to a free transfer replacement?

To put things into perspective value wise, I've seen Coventry are holding out for £2m for a defender. Being a free scoring striker, £850k is not even half of what Omar is worth in today's market..

Quoted from BeijingMariner

[url][/url]http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/09/por-rotherhams-bogle-bid-rejected/page/1/

original story here. they say he came to us on a free transfer so I wouldnt know how much to trust their story

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/09/por-rotherhams-bogle-bid-rejected/

I wonder how much Clive would be worth in todays money, 700K would have been a steal.

Quoted from promotion plaice

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/09/por-rotherhams-bogle-bid-rejected/

thanks for that, have no clue what I am doing wrong!

According to the BBC stats Omar has been directly involved (scored or assisted) more goals than anyone else in the FL except for Josh Morris. He's still young and has fantastic physical attributes that could allow him to improve further. £850K is quite frankly a derisory amount.

He's scored nearly as many league goals as their entire team and they think they could pay less than £1 million?!

My personal view is that we know what he is worth, and we won't be tempted by the first offer we get.

Don't think Rotherham will be his destination either. There are bigger richer clubs than them sniffing around and we and Omar know it. Christ we could be in the same league as Rotherham next year!

Seems to me that little clubs like Rotherham are putting in big bids just to appease their fans and make it look as though they have big ambitions. The real bidding war will start when big clubs enter the fray.

2 million is fair considering what money is offered for league strikers now.

I mean west ham offered 15 million for a brentford striker for god sake , town should stick to there guns and make sure if he goes its for decent money.

I'd have thought we'll get a couple of million if we (and Bogle) are willing to wait until the end of the season.

To score 18 goals by the half-way mark in what is currently a relatively limited mid-table team is flipping impressive whichever way you look at it. Just think how many more he could bag if we can keep up our recent improved form?

I've used Kemar Roofe as a yardstick for long enough - anything less than £2.5 million is giving him away in the current market.

I still look at Omar as developing but when you look at his stats the potential is significant.
37 in 70 for us, better than a goal every other game in total, consistently scoring despite three steps up the pyramid in three years.
I saw a John Still interview recently and he said that if a striker has an eye for goal he can do it at most levels, whereas defenders often struggle as they climb the pyramid.
Teams like Derby, Forest will know that well and will have money to burn. My personal view is that Brentford will get 15 million for Hogan and be relaxed about splashing 2 for Omar

It's gonna be a long January...

West Ham are to make a third bid for Brentford striker Scott Hogan, valued at £15M by Brenford.

They got him from Rochdale for £750K in 2014.  

This shows the importance of getting a good sell-on clause for Omar.

Quoted from Les Brechin

And how does ET know this?  

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Elliot told him  

Bidding war I can see very soon

Time will tell.

Quoted from marinernige

According to et town have rejected a 850k bid for omar from Rotherham .

Tony Stewart's going to have to sell a few more floodlights to buy Bogle. He's the guy who invented the infra red movement detection lamps, so every time next doors cat brings on half the streets lights think of the cheeky so-and-so who only offered £850k for our star man.

Sky Sports mentioned he is also being watched by Brentford, who have identified him as a potential replacement for in-form attacker Scott Hogan should he leave this month.

Scott Hogan just been sold to West Ham for £15 million.

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Quoted from Nelly GTFC

Sky Sports mentioned he is also being watched by Brentford, who have identified him as a potential replacement for in-form attacker Scott Hogan should he leave this month.

Scott Hogan just been sold to West Ham for £15 million.

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The £15000000 will do for starters for Bogle  

They've just copied it from Sky

I think it's definitely about the package.  

I think we have to sell before the end of the season to ensure we get the best deal with his contract running out.

1.5 would sound good if the sell ons are as good as the Bennett sell ons appear to be.  Having said that and having seen the silly money mentioned above you would ask why we aren't getting 3 million for him if we didn't!

Quoted from mariner2000

I think it's definitely about the package.  

I think we have to sell before the end of the season to ensure we get the best deal with his contract running out.

1.5 would sound good if the sell ons are as good as the Bennett sell ons appear to be.  Having said that and having seen the silly money mentioned above you would ask why we aren't getting 3 million for him if we didn't!

He still has anther year left on his current deal if memory serves me right.

Yep. Contracted for next season. Brentford have got cash on the hip - give us 4million for Bogle and we'll see what we can do  

Quoted from chaos33

Yep. Contracted for next season. Brentford have got cash on the hip - give us 4million for Bogle and we'll see what we can do  

Actually they may not be a "massive club" but are not going up or down by the looks of it and that would give him time to adjust and develop, though like most I would rather he stayed till the end of this season. All they need to do is cough up a massive mountain of cash now with sell on's that last for ever.

2million? Double that. 4m is the going rate and Id be surprised if we don't get close to that
I can see it being around 3m with afew extras. Naff all to a Championship club
We signed Ashcroft for half a million 20 years ago and he was shite!

You only have to look at the Torres deal - andy carroll went for well over the odds

Bogle going would obviously be a sad moment. However, the funds would hopefully go towards a wider spread of players capable of scoring, which bignot supposed targets indicate. Therefore, in the long run the money could help fund a solid all around team.

Personally, I wouldn't contemplate any offer of less than £2 million for Bogle and, with the reported level of interest in him, the price is only likely to go up the longer this month goes on. Rotherham's offer is a pittance.

Quoted from EY Mariner

Personally, I wouldn't contemplate any offer of less than £2 million for Bogle and, with the reported level of interest in him, the price is only likely to go up the longer this month goes on. Rotherham's offer is a pittance.

Why would he want to go to a team that we'll be playing in the league next season anyway?  

Would Hurst get a cut for bringing him here?????

All this media coverage can only be good and drive up the bidding war that's about to commence. JF going to be very busy with this leaving MB to find the incoming's.

UTM

Ashcroft was pretty decent but a measure of his unpredictability was that Buckley refers to him as " The Loon"

I'd be amazed if he doesn't break our record transfer fee this window.

Although my heart wants him to stay, his departure is almost inevitable as the club can't afford not to cash in by waiting till there's only 12 months left on his contract. As I've stated previously, I'm sure there's a figure that will tip the board into selling - I just hope it's in excess of £2million.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Ashcroft was pretty decent but a measure of his unpredictability was that Buckley refers to him as " The Loon"

Too much time in the bookies that one if memory serves me right, "allegedly"! No doubt had some real talent though.

Didn't he get into trouble after entering management? Seem to recall that he received a lengthy ban after headbutting a referee!

Quoted from Maringer

Didn't he get into trouble after entering management? Seem to recall that he received a lengthy ban after headbutting a referee!

As well as his disgraceful sexism ,and don't forget the night at orient where he lept into the away end to have a scrap with a lad who'd been giving him abuse .btw the lad weren't far wrong either.ashcroft was a lazy useless waste of money

Not much of a professional, he wasn't interested was he. Always looked overweight which said it all. Couldn't head the ball, rarely won the ball and if it wasn't for scoring so many penalties, his scoring record would have been abysmal wouldn't it? Reminded me of a crap Robbie Fowler, which is the only compliment I can give him. Had the ability which made it even worse. To top it off, he cost almost the same as Mendonca.
Hence why we got rid

Quoted from nightrider

. To top it off, he cost almost the same as Mendonca.
Hence why we got rid

still our record signing at £500k IIRC.

How did we manage to get £350k for him though!?

Rotherham have only offered 350k and he will go for under 1 mill.  Probably about 750k in the end. That's realism

Why did we pay 500k more like?! We wanted better than we had and that was the price we had to pay.
Their manager must have thought he could sort him out. If he put some effort, lost the weight, got fit, he would have been a very good Championship player. Probably wouldn't have signed for us though. He dropped down a league as well didn't he
I remember him being good in front of goal? Never missed a penalty either?

Always remember, Omar (or anyone) is only one serious injury from being worth eff all. I'd take £1m, plus decent sell on this month and move on

I'm assuming Lee Ashcroft poked nightrider's misses because the guy was not as bad as he is making out. He scored goals and we sold him for basically what we got him for. The guy was class in div 2, just not so good in div 1.

Quoted from VinnyGTFC

Rotherham have only offered 350k and he will go for under 1 mill.  Probably about 750k in the end. That's realism

Yorkie WUM

Quoted from SteffiMariner

I'm assuming Lee Ashcroft poked nightrider's misses because the guy was not as bad as he is making out. He scored goals and we sold him for basically what we got him for. The guy was class in div 2, just not so good in div 1.

When you see his goals on old clips you sit up and look and think ...jeez who was that ?? He was decent from my memory.

2-3 million would be about right for a young, powerful and free-scoring striker. There has been more money spent on strikers from league 2 than 2-3mill.

Does GTFC still have any club debt? if so, how much?

If we did receive, let's say, 3 million. We could put 1 million aside to pay off some of the clubs debt, and the other 2 million on buying some quality league players.

I remember him being ok ish maybe not exactly what we were  hoping for but then again I remember jilmmy Gilligan

Quoted from Grimsby2012

2-3 million would be about right for a young, powerful and free-scoring striker. There has been more money spent on strikers from league 2 than 2-3mill.

Does GTFC still have any club debt? if so, how much?

If we did receive, let's say, 3 million. We could put 1 million aside to pay off some of the clubs debt, and the other 2 million on buying some quality league players.

What do we exactly owe fenty anyone know ? Do we owe the Inland revenue anything ? Don't want spreadsheet accounts just a figure  

Quoted from VinnyGTFC

Rotherham have only offered 350k and he will go for under 1 mill.  Probably about 750k in the end. That's realism

750k, on Bogle.... are you full of silicon?

You could buy an average middle-aged national league striker for that. Not bogle!

Marcus Bignob should play Omar just so they can see who they wont be getting

750 is a joke. Twice that and 50% of any sell on fee before I'd even be tempted  

David Nugent has signed for Derby County so that may reduce chances of Omar going there if he want to get games.

Quoted from GrimRob

750 is a joke. Twice that and 50% of any sell on fee before I'd even be tempted  

This. It's 2017. He's worth 2017 prices.

As a strategy for dealing with situation I hope JF just puts up a big NOT FOR SALE sign at Blundell Park for Omar.

Tell any clubs that come-a-courting where to get off, he's staying. There's absolutely no need to rush into things. Once the window is starting to come to a close is when the bargaining begins and higher league managers start to get twitchy about not signing a proven goalscorer. If they don't come, I'd be more than happy anyway.

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

What do we exactly owe fenty anyone know ? Do we owe the Inland revenue anything ? Don't want spreadsheet accounts just a figure  

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Do "liabilities" include the Fenty benign loans? I wouldnt have thought so.

Well if we do only owe him £1.6m then if we get £2.5m for Omar then we should repay it all.

CREDITORS: AMOUNTS FALLING DUE WITHIN ONE YEAR
2016 2015
£ £
Bank loan (see note 14) 48,476 46,647
Trade creditors 141,706 147,491
Social security and other taxes 141,785 60,969
Other creditors 11,441 21,065
Accrued expenses 34,657 60,866
Deferred income 11,716 13,424
Directors' loans 2,209,700 2,244,550

2,599,481 2,595,012

As someone who contributed to the funding operation, I would like to know how much of that was spent bringing Omar to the club.

Then when he goes I can work out the return on my £40.00 😉

Quoted from MuddyWaters

CREDITORS: AMOUNTS FALLING DUE WITHIN ONE YEAR
2016 2015
£ £
Bank loan (see note 14) 48,476 46,647
Trade creditors 141,706 147,491
Social security and other taxes 141,785 60,969
Other creditors 11,441 21,065
Accrued expenses 34,657 60,866
Deferred income 11,716 13,424
Directors' loans 2,209,700 2,244,550

2,599,481 2,595,012

Have you got the debtors information, too, just to keep it in perspective?

Quoted from SteffiMariner

Have you got the debtors information, too, just to keep it in perspective?

11. DEBTORS: AMOUNTS FALLING DUE WITHIN ONE YEAR
2016 2015
£ £
Trade debtors 80,537 63,609
Other debtors 241,083 273,389
Prepayments 35,520 12,281

357,140 349,279

Quoted from Civvy at last

As someone who contributed to the funding operation, I would like to know how much of that was spent bringing Omar to the club.

Then when he goes I can work out the return on my £40.00 😉

A 3 million total (2.5 plus add ons) from an initial outlay of 30k equates to a hundred-fold increase so my hundred quid should pocket me a cool 10k all in all...

I'll fax over the paperwork Mr. F, cheers mate you're a good 'un.

No idea how true it is but a Rotherham fan on another forum says they have made a 2nd bid for Omar. Doesn't say how much though.

Quoted from Les Brechin

No idea how true it is but a Rotherham fan on another forum says they have made a 2nd bid for Omar. Doesn't say how much though.

You should let them know they need to add a nought at the end  

Quoted from GrimRob

You should let them know they need to add a nought at the end  

Bearing in mind they are tight Yorkies, you may wish to point out which end to put the nought on !!

Will probably get slaughtered for saying this but the group i go to games with were discussing the Omar transfer at the last home game and the general consensus was that 1 to 1.5 million would be about his value. He is big and powerful and will score goals but it was felt that his all round game isn't quite good enough to take him to the very top and at his age, he may not get all that much better now. His temperament can be suspect and he drifts out of games if it isn't going his way. He doesn't have the best of first touches and his decision making isn't always the greatest. He will always prosper in the modern game with his physical attributes and he is definitely destined for higher things than GTFC but some felt he doesn't quite have the tools to go all the way to the Prem.

If looked at dispassionately from a scouts point of view, these things will be noticed.

Quoted from ginnywings

Will probably get slaughtered for saying this but the group i go to games with were discussing the Omar transfer at the last home game and the general consensus was that 1 to 1.5 million would be about his value. He is big and powerful and will score goals but it was felt that his all round game isn't quite good enough to take him to the very top and at his age, he may not get all that much better now. His temperament can be suspect and he drifts out of games if he it isn't going his way. He doesn't have the best of first touches and his decision making isn't always the greatest.He will always prosper in the modern game with his physical attributes and he is definitely destined for higher things than GTFC but some felt he doesn't quite have the tools to go all the way to the Prem.

His first touch, hold up play and awareness have improved massively this season, and despite being 23 he hasn't played a huge amount of football at a decent level, If his ball control and all round game improve as much in the next 12 months as they have in the last he will be a fearsome striker at any level.

His mentality does need to improve, he needs to not dwell on mistakes and think "I'll score the next one" and not sulk, also when he's out of the game he needs to not try and do everyone's jobs but stay up top, he can drift out wide as centre halves won't know where is or who to mark if his movements good.

Fair enough 09, it's all about opinions and i'm just giving the general consensus from the group of fans i attend with, not necessarily my views on him. He's 23 (or 24 depending on where you look) and he has improved massively while with us but the question scouts will ask themselves is how much more will he improve from here and how much he is worth for them to find out.

One thing you would have to say about Bogle is that he's scored loads of goals this year without a great deal of support alongside him. If he was working off a foil who was doing much of his work for him, it would be less impressive, but the fact that he's had to lead the line pretty much single-handedly at times means that his goal return is pretty remarkable.

I certainly agree that his all-round game has plenty of room for improvement but if you compare to players such as Darren Bent in his prime (though he's obviously not at the same level) or other 'poachers', he has to do a heck of a lot more work to earn his goals.

I have to admit, he's played better on a number of occasions this season than I thought he was capable of doing from what I saw last season. This bodes well for the future, especially if he can sort out his temperament and stop beating himself up when things aren't going his way.

I'd like to see him stay until the end of the season and see how well he does with a more threatening strike partner such as Yussuf (or Effiong?).

Ultimately, the biggest factor managers are looking for is the ability to put the ball in the net, something he has done very well this season.

Quoted from Maringer

One thing you would have to say about Bogle is that he's scored loads of goals this year without a great deal of support alongside him. If he was working off a foil who was doing much of his work for him, it would be less impressive, but the fact that he's had to lead the line pretty much single-handedly at times means that his goal return is pretty remarkable.

I certainly agree that his all-round game has plenty of room for improvement but if you compare to players such as Darren Bent in his prime (though he's obviously not at the same level) or other 'poachers', he has to do a heck of a lot more work to earn his goals.

I have to admit, he's played better on a number of occasions this season than I thought he was capable of doing from what I saw last season. This bodes well for the future, especially if he can sort out his temperament and stop beating himself up when things aren't going his way.

I'd like to see him stay until the end of the season and see how well he does with a more threatening strike partner such as Yussuf (or Effiong?).

Ultimately, the biggest factor managers are looking for is the ability to put the ball in the net, something he has done very well this season.

Having watched Darren Bent in his younger days at Charlton he was one of the most hard working strikers I have EVER seen. His movement off the ball was phenomenal however I agree to having doubts whether Omar will ever be a top level striker despite the huge improvements he has made.
One week he looks unplayable, the next that he is struggling at League 2 level. I will be delighted if we keep him until the summer and honestly  think it may be the best for his own development

And also it was Hurst who had the foresight to give him the 3 year deal and was able to develop him exponentially over the summer.

Quoted from Mariner_09

And also it was Hurst who had the foresight to give him the 3 year deal and was able to develop him exponentially over the summer.

Giving him a 3 year deal was in the best interests of the club and i would say it was the board who take the credit for that as much as Hurst.

Quoted from Cloudy

Having watched Darren Bent in his younger days at Charlton he was one of the most hard working strikers I have EVER seen. His movement off the ball was phenomenal however I agree to having doubts whether Omar will ever be a top level striker despite the huge improvements he has made.
One week he looks unplayable, the next that he is struggling at League 2 level. I will be delighted if we keep him until the summer and honestly  think it may be the best for his own development

I don't doubt that Bent worked hard - just noting that he never played the targetman role in the way that Bogle has had to. Doing a lot of running and good movement off the ball is one thing, but a physical battle with defenders when isolated on your own up front is a different matter.

Bogle and Bent are certainly different types of strikers, however, so not all that much of a direct comparison to be had. Bogle's more of a lower-division Drogba/Lukaku sort of player (though obviously nowhere near as good as either!), not a poacher.

I echo ginnywing's thoughts. Those games were he is clearly getting frustrated and becomes redundant will work against him, in the aspect of his ability to adapt. And ultimately, he is an extreme case of a confidence player. So teams will be wary of forking out too much on a player, who, when he isnt scoring, isn't offering much more.

Quoted from Maringer

Bogle and Bent are certainly different types of strikers, however, so not all that much of a direct comparison to be had. Bogle's more of a lower-division Drogba/Lukaku sort of player (though obviously nowhere near as good as either!), not a poacher.

He reminds me more of a Heskey.......even in the way he splits the fans opinion  of  him

Quoted from Brazilnut

He reminds me more of a Heskey.......even in the way he splits the fans opinion  of  him

Does he split opinion? I'm sure at least 90% of our fans would say he's fairly good if not better. Heskey was just a battering ram. Omar has ability.

The thing is. There is a difference between the value of a player, and how in demand he is.

He may be worth 1-1.5 million, but he could easily go for double that (2-3 million) if he creates a bidding war.

Quoted from mariner91

Does he split opinion? I'm sure at least 90% of our fans would say he's fairly good if not better. Heskey was just a battering ram. Omar has ability.

to a certain extent he does , some think he is the dogs b0ll0cks /golden goose and others are more reserved and question his temperament