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Not enough detail provided. What is the problem that is trying to be addressed? The whole document that has been circulated to the 72 clubs should be made public.
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What happens then if the "mid-season break" is in December and the weather is fine but then come January when fixtures restart the country is hit by bad weather and games get called off?
As for regionalising and adding another 12 teams then they can do one for me. 1) It took us long enough to get out of non-league so letting teams have a free pass to promotion just isn't right and 2) I enjoy the longer trips, i.e. weekends down in Torquay etc.
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Two winter breaks would mean that England would definitely win the next World Cup and Euros.
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Will this man Harvey just go away. He will not rest until his incompetent inflated ego is satisfied.
Just clear off and work for the Premiershite and let the EFL be run by people who have the EFL fans at heart.
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Two winter breaks would mean that England would definitely win the next World Cup and Euros.
Nah, I reckon semi finals World Cup and losing finalists at the Euro's. But we could improve on this if the EFL Trophy is allowed to develop the Shaun Harvey way !!
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moosey_club |
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Well as the clubs responce has to be received by tomorrow by the EFL then i presume the board and all its members have already fully considered the plan that was issued prior to the Summer jolly boys outing to Portugal and that our responce to those proposals is actually reflective of all parties.
One for the forthcoming Fans Forum i suspect ; Hello John, can you reveal what the clubs responce was to the EFL Leagues Re-structure proposals ?
One of the most worrying themes that pops up a couple of times in the document issued is "whatever happens the clubs must not be worse off financially" .....i feel thats what the Club representatives will focus on more than anything else....and again no solid plans as to how that might happen..just a hope that more weekend Premier games on the telly will increase Premier League income which will filter down the game... HA !! Because that has worked out sooooo fking well so far in the 24 yrs of the Premier League to date.
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Yeah agree with this. Can live with the FA cup becoming a midweek competition rounds 4-6 to accommodate a midwinter break but don't see why anything else needs to be done lower down the leagues. How many of the Euro squad were playing in the EFL? and why would Sky want no football to show during the winter break? that seems a little crazy.
It's all about B teams which nobody but a few prem clubs want (and it seems several of them don't want it either)
Not sure how many times we would be involved in rounds 4 - 6 but the FA Cup has to be on a Saturday or it would lose some magic in my opinion.
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Nowt wrong with the football league, why change it? Totally love the FA cup, it needs to be on a Saturday and replays add to the romance. Hands off our game you cretins!!!
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A full and open debate about the structure of English football is, in my opinion, long overdue. But, because of the disastrous way in which Shaun Harvey and his colleagues have enforced an unwanted experiment on the game through the competition we participated in the other night, any proposals that they put forward will be treated with, at best, suspicion because of the damage they have already done. For that, Mr Harvey should now be out of a job.
On the proposals in their present form, I don't object to the idea of restructuring on principle. But I don't like the idea of regionalisation, mainly because recent evidence from the Conference leagues with clubs like Bishop's Stortford, Gloucester City, Lowestoft Town and Oxford City playing in the north division shows the weakness of such a simple structure. Similarly, while I would be prepared to scrap replays, I would be opposed to efforts to move the FA Cup to midweek. It has already been devalued in recent times and I think that would see it similarly weakened. However, I would support the idea of a winter break for the Premier League only in order to give the Football League that period in the spotlight on its own.
Yet the repeated references to meetings with the Premier League and the FA in the letter posted elsewhere, with no mention of the National League whatsoever, make it pretty clear to me that this is about one thing only - introducing B teams to the league structure and I cannot accept that. I know it happens in other countries. I even watched a game between two B sides when I was in Madrid last year. But, quite apart from the risk of further eroding the great traditions of our game by going down this path, we have seen enough this week to know that the alleged justification for doing this, the supposed development of young English talent, is nothing more than a lie.
Let us not forget either that one of the stated reasons for forming the Premier League was that it would make the England national team better. It may have made a lot of money for a lot of people but, on that measure at least, the Premier League is a miserable failure and anything that gives it additional power over our game must be resisted at all costs.
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In 1960 the Football League got rid of regionalisation for the simple reason the balance of geography didn't work. Hence the old Div.4 was formed.
I can't see that there is anything wrong with the format of the FL as it is. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. So you have to wonder, what it Harvey's motive?
The only adjustment that makes sense is to invite the Conference to be a new L3 with sensible promotion/relegation numbers. That would cure the problem of teams being stuck among the dead men like we were. But even that change isn't crucial.
If I had a magic wand there is one thing I would do and that is make the PL hand over 50% of the obscene TV money they got this year to the FL and the FA instead of most of it going abroad and to agents.
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