May or Leadsom Prime Minister

Who do you want as prime minister?

Somebody else .

Definitely none of the above...

Who ever wins a baby oil wrestling match, seriously it has to be the one that gets the best deal for Britain.

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We voted 'Leave' so where's the sodding logic in voting on two candidates who were both Bremainers at heart? We're going to be landed with a leader that nobody but the Tory ponce's want
It's just ridiculous I don't expect much progress to come out of either one of them at all

May was a woman who said several months ago that Britain will benefit under Sharia Law

Easy decision Leadson for me, now as for the Labour Party 😂😂

Would be interesting to see how the Muslim community would react to a female Labour leader, could be even more lost votes going UKIP's way if this were to happen.

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We voted 'Leave' so where's the sodding logic in voting on two candidates who were both Bremainers at heart? We're going to be landed with a leader that nobody but the Tory ponce's want
It's just ridiculous I don't expect much progress to come out of either one of them at all

May was a woman who said several months ago that Britain will benefit under Sharia Law

I think you'll find without too much research that Leadsom was one of the fronters for the Leave campaign..

I'd never even heard of Leadsom until last week. Not that it matters because May will win and be hailed as the new Maggie Thatcher by all those chinless Tories who for some reason thought the old crone was some kind of goddess. Weird lot.

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I think you'll find without too much research that Leadsom was one of the fronters for the Leave campaign..

That I already know
Although if I remember rightly she started out as a Bremainer


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May, better name for headlines. Likewise Eagle for Labour. Lots you can do with those names.

It's like a choice between syphilis and gonorrhea, really.

Looks like it is going to be May, in any case. Probably the lesser of two evils as Leadsom really is pretty clueless in general - the woman suggested small businesses shouldn't have to offer maternity leave!

Quite amusing that May's claim to fame is deporting Abu Qatada to Jordan. This is a man who was imprisoned without charge for 9 of 13 years in the UK and was then found not guilty of all charges when finally deported!

Ah well. Whoever wins will probably be in power for at least 9 years now the Gang of 172 have decided to split the opposition, God help us. Will there be anything in the country left to sell off to the cheapest foreign bidder by then, I wonder?

Coronation, May jumps straight into the job

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I thought that was a picture of c.j from west wing.  

That must have been the easiest leadership contest ever. May the best of a very sad bunch. At least it wasn't Boris the spider or that anus Gove.

I  don't pretend to know much about politics but how on earth can you have someone who wanted us to remain in the EU leading the country?

The power of democracy in action. The new PM being elected by 180 tory MP's.

It's because we don't have a grown up electoral system, unlike most of the civilised world. FPTP is a real joke which leads to 'personality' overtaking policy in importance.

The fact that UKIP and the Greens got over 15% of the vote yet only picked up 2 out of 650 seats shows that something is badly wrong with our 'democracy'.

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It's because we don't have a grown up electoral system, unlike most of the civilised world. FPTP is a real joke which leads to 'personality' overtaking policy in importance.

The fact that UKIP and the Greens got over 15% of the vote yet only picked up 2 out of 650 seats shows that something is badly wrong with our 'democracy'.

Old ground but didn't Labour have the chance to change that and didn't.

May is awful but appears to be Murdoch's choice, disgraceful treatment of Leadsom who hasn't got the heart of Corbyn, maybe she has more skeletons she wants hidden but it is not good for democracy.
May will benefit from the dead cat bounce effect but when nearly 60% of Tories voted out there s a lot of unhappiness in their  party

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May is awful but appears to be Murdoch's choice, disgraceful treatment of Leadsom who hasn't got the heart of Corbyn, maybe she has more skeletons she wants hidden but it is not good for democracy.
May will benefit from the dead cat bounce effect but when nearly 60% of Tories voted out there s a lot of unhappiness in their  party

She saying all the right things at the minute but actions speak louder than words, if she tries to water down the Brexit negotiations her career will be short lived.

I can not remember her saying much to get the voters to say remain,

More sat on the fence saying remain but not saying much more

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We voted 'Leave' so where's the sodding logic in voting on two candidates who were both Bremainers at heart? We're going to be landed with a leader that nobody but the Tory ponce's want
It's just ridiculous I don't expect much progress to come out of either one of them at all

May was a woman who said several months ago that Britain will benefit under Sharia Law

Listening to May speak I like her a lot.Comes across as forthright

With reference to Sharia law I can understand  peoples concerns but when you look at Islam as a whole its  generally a good thing.Submission to God and following the good way.

Amazingly enough, some of May's policy aims as stated in her 'launch' are very sensible - you could almost say progressive, even, and some of the economics of more left-wing than most of the Blarite stuff!

It sounds as though Osbornomics will be quickly out of the door, though not before it has caused appalling damage to our economy. Looks as though she hasn't ruled out PQE (one of Corbyn's suggested policies) and is serious about setting up a National Infrastructure fund of some sort which has been desperately needed in this country for decades. Borrowing costs are currently so low that they are effectively negative so it is idiotic that we've been actively cutting back on investment in the current climate. Thanks Gideon.

The question is, firstly, whether she's actually sincere about implementing these policies and secondly, if the City will continue to fund the Tories if she does. The City are doing very well, thanks very much, from the status quo as money is transferred ever upwards under current policies and I don't think they would take too well to having the government teat dry up. Wouldn't surprise me if she was ousted during the next couple of years by a 'backbench revolt' if she does attempt to actually get things done. Most Tories know which side their bread is buttered on...

So Camoron's tenure as PM comes to an end. Good riddance!

One of his avowed aims while in Nr 10 was to fix 'Broken Britain'  - got to say Dave, you smashed it

And what have we got to look forward to in place of Dodgy....months and months of Mayhem

What a terrible state of affairs

This

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Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary? What's that all about then? The cynic in me thinks May has given him the job to provide rope with which to hang himself. Let's hope he doesn't inadvertently start any wars in doing so.

Good to see that the incomparibly incompetent Osborne has finally been given the heave-ho. Leaving the economy in the crapper, for certain, so it's going to be a tough job for his replacement.

Now it will be interesting to see how much of May's rhetoric from the other day is followed up by action.

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Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary? What's that all about then? The cynic in me thinks May has given him the job to provide rope with which to hang himself. Let's hope he doesn't inadvertently start any wars in doing so.

Good to see that the incomparibly incompetent Osborne has finally been given the heave-ho. Leaving the economy in the crapper, for certain, so it's going to be a tough job for his replacement.

Now it will be interesting to see how much of May's rhetoric from the other day is followed up by action.

Well at least Osbourne's replacement is qualified for the job so I guess that's a good start.

Hammond has a reputation of being dull, yet generally competent. We'll have to see if this proves to be the case or not. I think he has some interesting times ahead of him, to say the least. Very much a case of ding dong the witch is dead with Osborne's departure.

Judging by May's 'manifesto' of sorts the other day, the government under her control is going to be dragged back towards LibDem-level centralism. Amazing to see after all the years watching economic policy getting dragged ever towards the barmy far right-wing territory.

This is providing she carries through with it, of course.

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Listening to May speak I like her a lot.Comes across as forthright

With reference to Sharia law I can understand  peoples concerns but when you look at Islam as a whole its  generally a good thing.Submission to God and following the good way.

People concerns about sharia law are based on what sharia law is like when it is the sole law. Homosexuals are killed in all Muslim countries, wives stoned to death for adultery on the say so of the husband, a law referenced as God's will with no means of recourse. British justice can and does fail and it may be some time before some things are put right but under Sharia law it is down to interpretation of the individual. British justice has to face many layers before sentances / fines are given.

Ghandi said an eye for an eye and the world goes blind or something to that effect. How can you reform someone who stole something if they have their hand removed.

There should only be one law operating in this Kingdom, British law.

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People concerns about sharia law are based on what sharia law is like when it is the sole law. Homosexuals are killed in all Muslim countries, wives stoned to death for adultery on the say so of the husband, a law referenced as God's will with no means of recourse. British justice can and does fail and it may be some time before some things are put right but under Sharia law it is down to interpretation of the individual. British justice has to face many layers before sentances / fines are given.

Ghandi said an eye for an eye and the world goes blind or something to that effect. How can you reform someone who stole something if they have their hand removed.

There should only be one law operating in this Kingdom, British law.

Agree on a lot of the above but there are aspects  that are good about the Islamic way of life and things we can learn from.David Cameron I remember said the same eg lived with Muslims for a while and said he admired the way the genuine Muslims live

Their lives and ours are quite marked I agree but their society does bring advantages as well.Remember reading about a experienced doorman "Robin Barrat"who had lived over there and cites the marked differences he felt between ours and their society.Over there in Dubai I think it was there was far less crime than over here and more respect .One of the reasons he cited was there was none of this liberal politically correct minded stuff that goes on over here.People were more afraid to break the law over there because of tough punishment metered out.Eg you mug someone for a phone and the crowd come and give you a kick in.Police then come and give  you a kick in .Likewise he says crime in this country and lack of respect amongst some for our fellow man  etc came from precisely that no fear of punishment which he feels lets our society down massively and something I agree with

Ps I was brought up a christian and still believe in God  though I respect and like the way of the genuine Muslim.Of course there are extremists but you get in that in any walk of life but its a shame that the actions of a few tar the rest

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Agree on a lot of the above but there are aspects  that are good about the Islamic way of life and things we can learn from.David Cameron I remember said the same eg lived with Muslims for a while and said he admired the way the genuine Muslims live

Their lives and ours are quite marked I agree but their society does bring advantages as well.Remember reading about a experienced doorman "Robin Barrat"who had lived over there and cites the marked differences he felt between ours and their society.Over there in Dubai I think it was there was far less crime than over here and more respect .One of the reasons he cited was there was none of this liberal politically correct minded stuff that goes on over here.People were more afraid to break the law over there because of tough punishment metered out.Eg you mug someone for a phone and the crowd come and give you a kick in.Police then come and give  you a kick in .Likewise he says crime in this country and lack of respect amongst some for our fellow man  etc came from precisely that no fear of punishment which he feels lets our society down massively and something I agree with

Ps I was brought up a christian and still believe in God  though I respect and like the way of the genuine Muslim.Of course there are extremists but you get in that in any walk of life but its a shame that the actions of a few tar the rest

Societies change over time, families in the UK now live further apart, and in some cases live alone, people used to be fearful of getting a clip round the ear from the local bobby now they tell them to fcuk off as they know their rights. The prison service in the UK has lost control due to lack of government funding. The local populace in Saudi fear the law because they can lose limbs or suffer by being in their prisons, all fear.

When I was in Saudi the religious Police patrolled and I saw them whipping people first hand for the slightest misdemeanor, absolutely trivial stuff, wearing shorts or even a woman sat in the drivers seat even though she didn't drive the car, the engine was running as her husband told her to sit whilst he went to the shop. I could have attended a stoning if I wished, a work colleague went and from what he said I am glad I didn't go. They buried a woman up to her waist, then threw stones at her, then as she was suffering horrific injuries a fork lift truck turned up with a huge boulder on it and drop it on her, this was for adultery, this is Sharia law in a Muslim country.

I would say the biggest lack of respect for our fellow man is hanging him because he loves a man rather than a woman. People should be free enough to do what they want in the privacy of their homes and life as long as it causes no harm to others. Can you tell me what happens in a Sharia court when they are over seeing a divorce?

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Societies change over time, families in the UK now live further apart, and in some cases live alone, people used to be fearful of getting a clip round the ear from the local bobby now they tell them to fcuk off as they know their rights. The prison service in the UK has lost control due to lack of government funding. The local populace in Saudi fear the law because they can lose limbs or suffer by being in their prisons, all fear.

When I was in Saudi the religious Police patrolled and I saw them whipping people first hand for the slightest misdemeanor, absolutely trivial stuff, wearing shorts or even a woman sat in the drivers seat even though she didn't drive the car, the engine was running as her husband told her to sit whilst he went to the shop. I could have attended a stoning if I wished, a work colleague went and from what he said I am glad I didn't go. They buried a woman up to her waist, then threw stones at her, then as she was suffering horrific injuries a fork lift truck turned up with a huge boulder on it and drop it on her, this was for adultery, this is Sharia law in a Muslim country.

Still feel though the Islamic way of life is at its heart something good though.Its just mans interpretation of it eg God (can mean a number of things but at its heart for me belies a positive force) that has been taken to the extreme and warped  by some eg killings like you have pointed out above .Having said that some of what you have posted did shock and surprise me and I hope this changes in the near future

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Still feel though the Islamic way of life is at its heart something good though.Its just mans interpretation of it eg God (can mean a number of things but at its heart for me belies a positive force) that has been taken to the extreme and warped  by some eg killings like you have pointed out above .Having said that some of what you have posted did shock and surprise me and I hope this changes in the near future

It has been like that for hundreds of years if anything it is getting worse, Iran and Afghanistan before the clerics took over were civilized to a degree that women weren't covered up like black pillar boxes and went to university.

At the core of all religions is control, they controlled what was right and wrong and people did for fear of the wrath of take your pick whatever God.

The major evil in the world is the ideology that drives ordinary people to commit heinous acts it just isn't Islam, although the way these fanatics a racking up the body count this year alone the underlining tone is that Islam is a death cult and always has been.

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It has been like that for hundreds of years if anything it is getting worse, Iran and Afghanistan before the clerics took over were civilized to a degree that women weren't covered up like black pillar boxes and went to university.

At the core of all religions is control, they controlled what was right and wrong and people did for fear of the wrath of take your pick whatever God.

The major evil in the world is the ideology that drives ordinary people to commit heinous acts it just isn't Islam, although the way these fanatics a racking up the body count this year alone the underlining tone is that Islam is a death cult and always has been.

Things are changing though eg reading a article in National Geographic recently that there are inroads being made particularly with regards to women's rights eg voting.Likewise more and women are going to university and competing with men for the well paid jobs.

Iam not denying there are aspects to Islamic society which arent right but likewise there arent with the West either.To me the best people I have met in life have been Muslim particulary women .Very respectful with admirable morals

Many atrocities have been and still are carried out in the name of religion. It may be Muslims now but all religions have blood on their hands and have done unspeakable acts to "non believers".

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Many atrocities have been and still are carried out in the name of religion. It may be Muslims now but all religions have blood on their hands and have done unspeakable acts to "non believers".

I agree but it has also done a lot of good in society as well

Other thing of note despite what some say religion is actually not dying out but on the increase as well in some country's eg see tweet below

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Let's be clear the cult of islam is not compatible with modern tolerant 21st century Britain, the Muslim appeasers want us to believe that the immigrant Muslim population is just like us indigenous Brits.

But they choose to ignore the suppression of Muslim women, the huge levels of intolerance, the Female Genital Mutilation, the forced marriages, the very low levels of economic contribution, the child brides, Sharia law, the honour crimes, the epidemic of Muslim gang rape of white children, the hate of homosexuality, the terrorist atrocities and the steady stream of young Muslim men appearing in court for plotting to kill us.

It's funny how the social justice warrior libtards and the feminazi's scream and scream for equality for all whilst ignoring the elephant in the room

So what does everybody think to Theresa May's first week or so, impressed with the early signs or are you not impressed so far ?

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Let's be clear the cult of islam is not compatible with modern tolerant 21st century Britain, the Muslim appeasers want us to believe that the immigrant Muslim population is just like us indigenous Brits.

But they choose to ignore the suppression of Muslim women, the huge levels of intolerance, the Female Genital Mutilation, the forced marriages, the very low levels of economic contribution, the child brides, Sharia law, the honour crimes, the epidemic of Muslim gang rape of white children, the hate of homosexuality, the terrorist atrocities and the steady stream of young Muslim men appearing in court for plotting to kill us.

It's funny how the social justice warrior libtards and the feminazi's scream and scream for equality for all whilst ignoring the elephant in the room

FGM pre-dates Islam by at least a thousand years..

A lot of the criticism people have for Islam is actually criticism of many of the social mores in Arabic countries. No connection between them and Islam itself. Pretty similar to the way in which many wars have been waged in the name of Christianity which, of course, goes entirely against the purported Christian teachings.

Of course, that doesn't mean that some of these Arabic mores haven't been exported to other countries along with Islam - the burqa and rubbish such as that, for instance. As has been noted elsewhere, most of the issues with Islam stem from those medieval fornicators in Saudi Arabia with their extremist wahhabi sect. Unfortunately, their money (and the kudos of holding the Islamic holy sites) has enabled them to export this nonsense around the world as well. It's a pity the west has been so reliant on their oil so have let them get away with this stuff with impunity. If there's a terrorist-supporting nation on Earth, it's Saudi.

The easiest way to remove the problems of religious extremism from a society is simply to make everyone wealthier. We've got plenty of resources to spread around (and technology should enable us to become wealthier), but it's all going to the people at the top and billions are still living in grinding poverty which just shouldn't be the case. Religious extremism is much more attractive if you have nothing to lose...

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Things are changing though eg reading a article in National Geographic recently that there are inroads being made particularly with regards to women's rights eg voting.Likewise more and women are going to university and competing with men for the well paid jobs.

Iam not denying there are aspects to Islamic society which arent right but likewise there arent with the West either.To me the best people I have met in life have been Muslim particulary women .Very respectful with admirable morals

Things unfortunately not changing fast enough for Qandeel Baloch.

I appreciate what you are saying but no doubt women are subjugated under Islam as they are conceived only to be worth half that of a man and unable to reason.

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A lot of the criticism people have for Islam is actually criticism of many of the social mores in Arabic countries. No connection between them and Islam itself. Pretty similar to the way in which many wars have been waged in the name of Christianity which, of course, goes entirely against the purported Christian teachings.

Of course, that doesn't mean that some of these Arabic mores haven't been exported to other countries along with Islam - the burqa and rubbish such as that, for instance. As has been noted elsewhere, most of the issues with Islam stem from those medieval fornicators in Saudi Arabia with their extremist wahhabi sect. Unfortunately, their money (and the kudos of holding the Islamic holy sites) has enabled them to export this nonsense around the world as well. It's a pity the west has been so reliant on their oil so have let them get away with this stuff with impunity. If there's a terrorist-supporting nation on Earth, it's Saudi.

The easiest way to remove the problems of religious extremism from a society is simply to make everyone wealthier. We've got plenty of resources to spread around (and technology should enable us to become wealthier), but it's all going to the people at the top and billions are still living in grinding poverty which just shouldn't be the case. Religious extremism is much more attractive if you have nothing to lose...

If you have nothing to lose you are more likely to be manipulated or held to ransom to carry out atrocities.

Like the young kid told to blow up a Police check point, he was told to press the button on the suicide vest, it would kill the Police but he could walk a way afterwards. His cousin was told if he walks away to detonate by remote control and that's what happened, he was shocked that his cousin was blown up.

Like a man whose family was held captive and he was told to drive a truck to a check point and leave it. Before he had chance to get out, it was remote detonated.

Religious extremism has many ways to get people to carry out acts of horror. There is no way to stamp it out because moderate Muslims sit back and let it happen to non Muslims or Muslims believing a different sect of Islam. It is here for the foreseeable future and it is only going to get worse, these people feed on fear.

What needs to happen is a zero percent policy on this, stop the money flow, shut down or tamper with the websites, make the instigators disappear.

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A lot of the criticism people have for Islam is actually criticism of many of the social mores in Arabic countries. No connection between them and Islam itself. Pretty similar to the way in which many wars have been waged in the name of Christianity which, of course, goes entirely against the purported Christian teachings.

Of course, that doesn't mean that some of these Arabic mores haven't been exported to other countries along with Islam - the burqa and rubbish such as that, for instance. As has been noted elsewhere, most of the issues with Islam stem from those medieval fornicators in Saudi Arabia with their extremist wahhabi sect. Unfortunately, their money (and the kudos of holding the Islamic holy sites) has enabled them to export this nonsense around the world as well. It's a pity the west has been so reliant on their oil so have let them get away with this stuff with impunity. If there's a terrorist-supporting nation on Earth, it's Saudi.

The easiest way to remove the problems of religious extremism from a society is simply to make everyone wealthier. We've got plenty of resources to spread around (and technology should enable us to become wealthier), but it's all going to the people at the top and billions are still living in grinding poverty which just shouldn't be the case. Religious extremism is much more attractive if you have nothing to lose...

Excellent post sir.