Labours leader Jeremy Corbyn

I don't know why May just doesn't call an election now, it will be the easiest thing she will ever win.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I'm not a Labour member (not even sure they're the party I would prefer out of all of them),much less a Corbynista but I'm beginning to despair with all this bullshit coming out of the Labour right. Corbyn will win the election hands down. The right wingers will be deselected by constituency parties in droves. There would be no need for any dirty stuff by the Corbynistas. I simply don't believe half of what they're saying.

All this nonsense , slurs and outright lies from the right of the Parliamentary Labour Party and the press against Corbyn are not about the leadership election,  they know Corbyn will win.
They are frightened because he will not play the game of the elite, and the purpose is to discredit him amongst the general electorate. They do not want to discuss policies because many of Corbyns are quite popular. It is about branding him the loony left and making up nonsense for people like grim74  to spout up as fact in discussions.
The country is too uneven even May is admitting this and Hammond is on the verge of saying austerity as a policy has failed.
Social media means the press is losing its power and this frightens them as well, it is too easy now to see through all these lies and in a similar way the scare tactics backfired against brexit the same has happened with the campaign against Corbyn.
The Labour Party membership is the highest it has ever been and is growing faster than any other political party in western Europe, that these people are being dismissed as leftist bullies is wrong but easy to do,
The 172 Labour MP's have miscalculated and placed themselves on the wrong side of the great majority of their party members and now seem quite happy to see the party self destruct rather than admit they were wrong even if it means years of Tory rule

Quoted from Grim74

I don't know why May just doesn't call an election now, it will be the easiest thing she will ever win.

There is plenty of discord in the Tory party. They have a leader elected by less than 200 who even the dreadful Leadsom would have run close. Brexit is going to be a nightmare for them with so many different views on what it actually means and the great majority of them remainers.
No one trusts the polls, so many marginal Tories are quite happy to sit it out, Labour has won the last 4 By--elections with increased majorities. They have also won the 4 metropolitan mayoral elections and received a bigger share of the vote in the local elections than the Tories.
May is quite happy for Labour to be the story for a while their own MP's are making themselves unelectable

Not to mention the obvious fact that May can't call an election. The fixed term Parliament act which was passed means that 60 percent of MPs need to agree that an election should be called before 2020. The only way this could happen is if a lot of the Labour MPs voted for it. Many of them have shown themselves to be right-wing disingenuous and devious illegitimates, but surely they aren't as corrupt as to actively give the Tories a helping hand? Actually, perhaps they are - the manner in which so many of them have behaved in the past 10 months or so makes you think a lot of them have absolutely no scruples.

Quoted from Maringer

Not to mention the obvious fact that May can't call an election. The fixed term Parliament act which was passed means that 60 percent of MPs need to agree that an election should be called before 2020. The only way this could happen is if a lot of the Labour MPs voted for it. Many of them have shown themselves to be right-wing disingenuous and devious illegitimates, but surely they aren't as corrupt as to actively give the Tories a helping hand? Actually, perhaps they are - the manner in which so many of them have behaved in the past 10 months or so makes you think a lot of them have absolutely no scruples.

They have no scruples but they lost when Corbyn didn't resign, one has come back today and more will follow. It is the summer break and they have to go back and explain their treacherous behavior to their Constituency parties who are absolutely fuming.  Many have been parachuted in and that upset local people at the time.  Many know they will
face reselection with boundary changes and many will face a no confidence vote from their own local parties.
Perhaps most importantly Owen Smith was a dreadful choice as challenger with his drug company lobbyist background

Quoted from codcheeky

All this nonsense , slurs and outright lies from the right of the Parliamentary Labour Party and the press against Corbyn are not about the leadership election,  they know Corbyn will win.
They are frightened because he will not play the game of the elite, and the purpose is to discredit him amongst the general electorate. They do not want to discuss policies because many of Corbyns are quite popular. It is about branding him the loony left and making up nonsense for people like grim74  to spout up as fact in discussions.
The country is too uneven even May is admitting this and Hammond is on the verge of saying austerity as a policy has failed.
Social media means the press is losing its power and this frightens them as well, it is too easy now to see through all these lies and in a similar way the scare tactics backfired against brexit the same has happened with the campaign against Corbyn.
The Labour Party membership is the highest it has ever been and is growing faster than any other political party in western Europe, that these people are being dismissed as leftist bullies is wrong but easy to do,
The 172 Labour MP's have miscalculated and placed themselves on the wrong side of the great majority of their party members and now seem quite happy to see the party self destruct rather than admit they were wrong even if it means years of Tory rule

Pretty sound assessment for me.

Bear in mind that, whatever May might have said, she's just filled the cabinet with more extreme right-wingers than we've seen since the days of Thatcher. Liam Fox, FFS. Crooked as they come.

There already seems to be a distinct gap opening up between the rhetoric and the actions which is probably not too surprising.

The Labour National Executive Committee has in their wisdom decided to go to court and spend approximately £250K of their members own money on an appeal to stop them having a vote while at the same time allowing any none member a vote if they pay £25.  You could not make this up.  Some are so angry they might lose their grip on the party they seem to have gone a little mad, Owen Smith has adopted Corbyns policies and wants to be seen as Corbyn lite instead of Tory lite and is so disappointed at the size of his rallies he has asked if he can speak at Corbyns.  Meanwhile the press have come out in force against Corbyn but try as they might are making little difference, in fact Corbyn is becoming more popular.  What will happen when the election is overt is anyone's guess but expect to see much sulking and a possible split

Quoted from codcheeky

The Labour National Executive Committee has in their wisdom decided to go to court and spend approximately £250K of their members own money on an appeal to stop them having a vote while at the same time allowing any none member a vote if they pay £25.  You could not make this up.  Some are so angry they might lose their grip on the party they seem to have gone a little mad, Owen Smith has adopted Corbyns policies and wants to be seen as Corbyn lite instead of Tory lite and is so disappointed at the size of his rallies he has asked if he can speak at Corbyns.  Meanwhile the press have come out in force against Corbyn but try as they might are making little difference, in fact Corbyn is becoming more popular.  What will happen when the election is overt is anyone's guess but expect to see much sulking and a possible split

The Labour Party has been reduced to nothing more than a laughing stock I wouldn't trust them to run a bath never mind run the country, and once the breakaway new SDP (mark 2) gets formed then the party that once upon a time represented the working class will be nothing more than a protest party led by the mad hatter himself representing asylum seekers and deluded students only.

Despite my personal views on Corbyn I find it a disgrace that the establishment including the MSN especially Sky and the BBC want to bring him down by any means necessary, it's exactly the same with Donald Trump  I'm getting sick of reading about these smear campaigns against them both, it's blatantly obvious from a neutral perspective that they want Smith to win and a not so neutral perspective that they want Clinton to win.

QT like a football match tonight in a way: Smith proves that possession (talking a lot) doesn't neccessarily win a match because mistakes (talking shite and getting pulled up on it) can be costly. I think Corbyn probably nicked a smash and grab 1-0 despite hardly saying anything all night. It even had a pitch invasion at the end with fans wanting selfies.