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BBC Radio Humberside are reporting that Amond has turned down our offer for a new contract and he is having a medical at Hartlepool tomorrow. Clearly shows the intent of the board that they will be happy with a mid table finish this year when we are losing players to Hartlepool.
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What the intercourse is going on? They're not even a big club!
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If thats true now that has p!ssed me off...
We are in the same league and in no fuckin way do hartlepool have much more money for wages than us.
I can take toto leaving as he was clearly looking for a new club but amond would stay for the right money.
To be outbid in wages by hartlepool twice now is depressing.
Fenty what about this "go" at the league you said a few weeks ago.
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flipping love signing our better players dont they. I really really dont understand that, we take Podge from release from Morecambe, adored by the fans, best season of his career, we go up and he joins a smaller club in the same division?! They are either paying big money or our contract offers must be excrement
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Lets wait and see if its true first
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Unless PH is looking at bringing in a higher quality of player, and is treating the current squad as more 'squad type players' hence the apparant lower wages. Saving himself to go 'all out' for his bigger targets. We did finish 4th in the national league, he might be aiming higher.
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Looks like we offering excrement wages tbh.
Cant be a coincidence the majority haven't resigned for us can it ?
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As if our best players are knocking us back for Hartlepool. Stinks of penny pinching.
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Unless PH is looking at bringing in a higher quality of player, and is treating the current squad as more 'squad type players' hence the apparant lower wages. Saving himself to go 'all out' for his bigger targets. We did finish 4th in the national league, he might be aiming higher.
Totally agree, we could be pleasantly surprised with the players PH brings in as replacements.
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Only want players that want to play for us, i can understand if there offering a good amount more a week, who wouldnt if you have no ties with the club. I think we will be alright, it is annoying if true but i trust paul hurst in the summer transfer window.
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Expected him to go - although not sideways and if it was sideways I didn't think it'd be to flipping Hartlepool. Just how competitive is this budget? The 22nd biggest in the league?
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We were all told that we were going to have a very competitive budget. I now though don't believe Toto as the fans loved Podge and he seems to be going there. They seem to be the new Rochdale. Toto, Magnay now possibly Podge.
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Does this board have any ambition at all ?
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Expected him to go - although not sideways and if it was sideways I didn't think it'd be to flipping Hartlepool. Just how competitive is this budget? The 22nd biggest in the league?
Exactly my thoughts. Very disappointing if true.
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Bit surprised it's not someone higher or a bigger club, but maybe if Amond's going to Hartlepool that's the true and fair reflection of his value in the market as a non-league striker?
Wouldn't surprised me if Hurst has some pretty decent people lined up. On the whole, he tends to be pretty good in the transfer market, so I'm pretty sanguine about the whole thing to be honest.
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According to Andy Carr (MM) he is going but to a different club, not Hartlepool.
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According to Andy Carr (MM) he is going but to a different club, not Hartlepool.
Morecambe?
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These players are only leaving for longer contracts or more money.
The club will have a wage structure in place and there's no reason to break this on players that can be replaced.
Plus it would be unfair on Disley and Macca to offer the others more money.
It's not the club's fault they're leaving.
There's no reason to panic. Let's look forward to welcoming our new players and give them the same wonderful support we gave the last lot.
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Nothing to do with ambition.
Why would GTFC break the bank to keep Toto/Amond etc happy when they are so so replaceable.
Amond has never done it in this league and has clearly found his level at conference.
PH knows what he's doing and is obviously waiting to see who is leaving/staying so he knows what budget he has.
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Guessed from the response in the shop yesterday that they knew he was going. Fingers crossed time, in Hurst we trust and all that.
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if it's about the length of a contract then maybe Paul Hurst has doubts about him scoring many against better defenders because Hes never done it in the league before and we probably aren't offering poor wages as well as a 30 goal a season player will have plenty of offers from all over the place so it seems Hartlepool are offering silly money to players and I hope it backfires don't get me wrong id of loved podge to sign but I'm not really gutted at all if I'm honest I'd of been gutted if we'd lost Omar bogle a young hungry Pacey powerful player scored 16 last year and 9 assists! Certainly a player on the up the type of players we need and want! Best of luck podge and thank you but I really don't think you'll reach double figures this year !
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I` m resigned to all three leaving, no sense in being blackmailed into keeping players that have had their heads turned elsewhere, thats just a recipe for unrest and disaster IMO
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To be fair I don't think podge's legs would have coped with another 2 years of doing all Omar's running!!!!!
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At least we don't have to listen toTHATSong
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If he does go,at least us the fans can't be to blame this time,he's hero worshiped here .
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At least we don't have to listen toTHATSong
We've lost Amond, Padraig Amond, I just don't think you understand, he chose to go, he's worse than Makofo, we've lost Padraig Amond. How's that?
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If he does go,at least us the fans can't be to blame this time,he's hero worshiped here .
Some might say he was spoilt
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I'm sorry but this balderdash of 'Hurst knows he might not get the better of defenders in this league' is just that, balderdash.
He's just scored 30+ goals ffs and Hartlepool of all places have become more attractive to him?! Just what in gods name are we offering players?!
Competitive budget my bottom.
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I don't hold with the "he won't score in league 2" type posts. He won't be playing against Paolo Maldini, just slightly better defenders, but i expect we will have better players providing the service, so it all evens out. It is obvious he is a natural goalscorer and i'm sad he's going. He scored a lot of goals last season that turned some draws into wins and got us into the play offs and a chance of promotion, which we took.
However, he was on a 1 year contract and is free to move on. If he has chosen to do so, then it's time to just say thanks for the goals and good luck. The club is bigger than any player. I'd rather he stayed but i'm not going to get too downbeat if he isn't.
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We've lost Amond, Padraig Amond, I just don't think you understand, he chose to go, he's worse than Makofo, we've lost Padraig Amond.
How's that?
Bit early yet Codge, lets wait to see if it's true or not.Should know tomorrow for sure.
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Big signing this week is what ive just heard. As well as Andrew Boyce. Could be rubbish but we all need cheering up
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Hearing Arnold to Hartlepool aswell.
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Heard a rumour that Arnold is being signed by Hartlepool aswell, don't know how much truth but just something i've heard.
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Big signing this week is what ive just heard. As well as Andrew Boyce. Could be rubbish but we all need cheering up
Surely Vardy hasn't turned down Arsenal for us.
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I think what everyone needs to remember Paul Hurst decided to stay AFTER he found out the new budget . Surely he wouldn't of stayed if it was a very low level one , as I've said in Paul we trust , let's see what squad he puts together . As much as it concerns me the sheer amount of players we have lost from the promotion winning squad , Paul has been their and done it so to speak and his track record is pretty good + as he's said himself we should have a wider choice of player now . Don't panic . Fox
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If he does go then surely we are offering players pittance, Arnold told people he was offered 50 quid more a week to stay looks like it was true. Let's hope it's bollox
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Hmmm!
Doubt Hartlepool will make any profits to tax anyway. And regardless of where the company is registered, the employees will have to pay income tax in the UK, unless there's some dodgy employment vehicle being used.
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If he does go then surely we are offering players pittance, Arnold told people he was offered 50 quid more a week to stay looks like it was true. Let's hope it's bollox
Was it that Arnold told people or someone said Arnold told people ? we all know how rumours spread. Loads of Shite flying about at the moment.
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Once the new signings are announced then everyone will feel a lot better. Especially in respect of one outstanding player that is set to join us next week, that is really a great move.
Be patient.
Was supposed to be a big announcement on Fri but it was put back until the ink was dry on the paper.
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[quote=120790]Once the new signings are announced then everyone will feel a lot better. Especially in respect of one outstanding player that is set to join us next week, that is really a great move.
Be patient.
Was supposed to be a big announcement on Fri but it was put back until the ink was dry on the paper. [/quote
Should have used Biro, dries immediately
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Quoted from 120790
Once the new signings are announced then everyone will feel a lot better. Especially in respect of one outstanding player that is set to join us next week, that is really a great move.
Be patient.
Was supposed to be a big announcement on Fri but it was put back until the ink was dry on the paper.
this is exactly what ive been told as well Ascend
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this is exactly what ive been told as well Ascend
Will the hairs on the back of my neck be standing up??
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This post just sets up the "Hurst Out" brigade before the season is out, get a grip FFS. On Tuesday Twitter was saying Podge was signing for Cambridge.
If he goes to Hartlepool the fine they will have Magnay, Toto, Oates and Podge all good players in non league football. That possibly underlines Hartlepools ambition. Please don't lets get hung up on this lot like we have done other teams in the past. Focus on getting behind our new signings when they arrive.
I love Podge he was great for us last season but penalties apart how many goals did he score against the top 6 or so sides in the National League? What does that tell you? Also he had to come down to non league for a reason.
How does anyone know what we are offering? Maybe we are offering deals that agents don't expect rather than players. These deals could be toned down to protect the club. Why would you offer massive pay rises to players after all those years in the wilderness it would be stupid.
The manager has a good record at spotting talent and indeed he brought in the 3 mentioned above who's departure (or potential in the case of Podge) has triggered such emotion. PH has done it before and he will do it again.
Like I have said in previous posts there will be better players than we finished the season with who currently have deals about to finish, just watch this space we will get better than what we have for reasonable money.
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Also worth noting it was RH who started the Pearson to Barnsley rumour or at least fuelled it.
They where right Ben Pearson joined them on loan from Man U and played 30+ games for them last season. Shaun is still waiting for the phone to ring.
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Ascend when you say outstanding......i doubt Boyce is classed as that. So could it be a different player.
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Morecambe?
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If Hartlepool have signed him , they have got backers trying to buy their way out of division 2 . However they will always be in the shadow of Middlesbrough , Sunderland and Newcastle .
Players are only contractors selling themselves to the highest bidders . We've seen it all before , very annoying but why should the player himself care . Didn't Buckley have players actually move to our area , might be something in that .
If our terms are as poor as some suggest , wasn't this our down fall years ago ? living within our means while others didn't . Those that didn't seem to have prospered.
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He scored 37 goals, he was a total fan favourite here. I really hope this is some weird joke and he's signed a new contract. Otherwise it doesn't look particularly good, from our out of contract players the two most valuable are off to flipping Hartlepool. Its a statement of intent to keep your best players.
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He scored 37 goals, he was a total fan favourite here. I really hope this is some weird joke and he's signed a new contract. Otherwise it doesn't look particularly good, from our out of contract players the two most valuable are off to flipping Hartlepool. Its a statement of intent to keep your best players.
Our best players wouldn't be our best players if we sign better players though
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He scored 37 goals, he was a total fan favourite here. I really hope this is some weird joke and he's signed a new contract. Otherwise it doesn't look particularly good, from our out of contract players the two most valuable are off to flipping Hartlepool. Its a statement of intent to keep your best players.
Like I said , they are only contractors , going where the best deal is , that's where they have presumably gone . Similar to loan players here deciding to sign for Scunny . Nothing we the humble fan can do about it .
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Looks like Mike reads the Fishy
Not sure, but this was this afternoon >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03xfgls#playClick to 1:25 minutes onwards. Says about the deal for Boyce this week; also no official confirmation, but Amond speaking to Hartlepool tomorrow subject to a medical, from reliable sources.
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I'd say Amond is on his way out, purely as a way to push himself and see how high he can go. To that end I do wonder if he could use the speculation to push his value and the interest in him upwards. We know things will start moving both in and out with signings as June comes to an end, Hartlepool are maybe the first team to blink and make their targets known. Which then acts as some starting pistol for bidding, and I can't see Podge choosing Hartlepool over say Portsmouth or some other team who have been pushing hard for promotion. But use them to push up interest and wages? Why not. Just a feeling about the above, but I'll be glad when things do get under way, and while I've learnt not to jump the gun so much I do hope we don't uncover any evidence of going cheap again.
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"We're doing things on the cheap" blah blah blah "we're not offering enough money" blah blah blah.
None of you know what we're offering or what our budget is so stop overreacting.
Who's to say we won't sign players better than those leaving us? Who's to say we aren't offering fair deals but Hartlepool (and others) are just offering more?
At least wait and see what our squad ends up like in a few weeks time before you start shatting yourselves in the middle of June.
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Amond spent two years in League 2 with Accrington and Morecambe, virtually unnoticed. Morecambe released him before he joined us. He's been good in the NL but his record at this level suggests he might not necessarily set the division alight, especially with most of his old teammates gone. No point crying over spilt milk, he'll always be remembered with fondness here!
Maybe PH's masterplan is to get someone better! No point paying daft wages for someone because you are emotionally attached to a player. He was ruthless with the retained list, that's set the trend for the close season.
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Amond is 29, he wants to further his career as much as possible before it ends. I know what i would do too.
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We've lost Amond, Padraig Amond, I just don't think you understand, he chose to go, he's worse than Makofo, we've lost Padraig Amond.
How's that?
What the felicitations going on What the felicitations going on What the felicitations going on Quote Wordsworth from the well known song " What the felicitations going on "
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Be disappointing if he didn't resign but doesn't mean we won't get a good replacement, Michael reddy had one good season and the next barely featured (injury granted)
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Amond is 29, he wants to further his career as much as possible before it ends. I know what i would do too.
Indeed. I'd move to a smaller club in the same division. Oh wait......
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What the felicitations going on
What the felicitations going on
What the felicitations going on
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What the intercourse does felicitations mean it doesn,y rhyme
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What the intercourse does felicitations mean it doesn,y rhyme
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What the felicitations going on
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Could he be another Daryl Claire, awesome in the conference but can't replicate at Division 4? I do have a man crush on him though so hopefully he will stay.
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Amond is 29, he wants to further his career as much as possible before it ends. I know what i would do too.
Further his career? At Hartlepool!?
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Just read something on FB that podge wanted 3 yr deal on 2k. Im not sure he's worth that tbh. And he says its not Hatlepool. So thats why Magnay was at Wembley
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Yes I've also heard they are about to unveil Pail Hurst as their new manager.
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Paul Hurst isn't Pail, he's just come back from holiday
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Mighty is on his way as well
Suppose there's hope if they need a director/former chairman too
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Do they want Fenty as well?
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This is all very worrying in my opinion. I certainly wanted Tait and Arnold to stay. I really really, really wanted Amond to stay!!!
I hope that there is some movement the other way now and we see who next year's heros are going to be. Pre-season friendlies might have to be 5 a side at this rate! One huge signing early this week will make us feel a lot less restless. Boyce would certainly be a good acquisition and someone to partner Bogle!
It's getting nerve wracking and exciting all at the same time!
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Pleased I haven't bought a season ticket just yet, could be a long hard season.
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Amond to Portsmouth I am hearing
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This, I could understand. And I'm glad we didn't offer a 3 year deal. Let's see.
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Amond spent two years in League 2 with Accrington and Morecambe, virtually unnoticed. Morecambe released him before he joined us. He's been good in the NL but his record at this level suggests he might not necessarily set the division alight, especially with most of his old teammates gone. No point crying over spilt milk, he'll always be remembered with fondness here!
Maybe PH's masterplan is to get someone better! No point paying daft wages for someone because you are emotionally attached to a player. He was ruthless with the retained list, that's set the trend for the close season.
Agree with all this.
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For all Amond's goals last season in the Conference, Hurst wasn't entirely happy with other areas of his game (extremely reliable source), but his goals alone earned him his place in the side. I don't think PH would value Podge as high wages wise as other clubs who see the headline figure of 37 goals. He definitely hasn't got pace and I think his goal return wouldn't be as great stepping up a division. So if his hold up and link up play in the Conference wasn't up to scratch, I wouldn't blame PH for not offering as much as other clubs will. He's also pushing thirty and reasonably not expected to make any major improvement. Good luck to him if he can get a bigger wage somewhere else. Thanks for the goals but PH will find better over the next few weeks..
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Does this board have any ambition at all ?
Yep robs fault .
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Don't know why people are getting edgy at the lack of squad numbers. League players are still under contract and have time to weigh up their options. We are not shopping for non league any more.
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Don't know why people are getting edgy at the lack of squad numbers. League players are still under contract and have time to weigh up their options. We are not shopping for non league any more.
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Amond to Portsmouth I am hearing
You're posting on the wrong thread. You need the "Amond move to Pompey (Merged)" one!
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Amond to Portsmouth I am hearing
Previous manager at Sligo Rovers, where he scored 17 goals in 27 games. I bet he's off there.
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Previous manager at Sligo Rovers, where he scored 17 goals in 27 games. I bet he's off there.
Would make more sense than Hartlepool.
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99% of us want him to stay, quite rightly, 37 goal strikers don't come around very often, but if he wants paying the alleged figures mentioned then it's a case of see you later! 2-3k per week would / I assume / be a big chunk out of budget.
Quality players have come before. Quality players have gone before. Don't get too disheartened if he leaves us..
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According to The Bunker, Hartlepools forum, someone had heard that Amond was signing for them as early as last thursday16th, I just wonder if his agent had been holding out for a better offer from somewhere else,if not us. . One poster on there has major doubts about Toto.
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The way I see it is we have the players who have re-signed who are committed to the club and will give thier all( macca and dis )and if Hartlepool want to sign conference players that is obviously what they aspire to be. We will sign L1/L2 players because that's what we aspire to be
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Not too bothered if he goes. Omar needs a good strike partner as I see him being the top striker now we are in L2. Podge wasn't too impressive at the business end of the season. I realise he scored a lot of goals, but this was in the conference. Players come and go.
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All the best to the bloke.. Scored a excrement load of goal for us, was only on a years contract (that's not his fault) so can do what he thinks best for him..
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By furthering his career, i was referring to his L1 offer.
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Well out of them all Podge was the one most likely to leave but never did I think Hurst was going to have to do a virtually total team rebuild. Hope this week we get some decent incoming this is starting to look like the "leaving sinking ship syndrome."
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reality is not many are privvy to information of what contracts have been offered and after initial player refusal if a second or third offer was reviewed by player and agent or given by the club. Amond stock has never been higher and he is out of contract. So realistically there can be no surprises. how many times have we seen a player have one good season , achieve a move and then become no more than a squad player? but his back pocket and mortgage payments become easier before drifting out the game it does not mean that our budget is low it mean PH has £x and has suggested contracts based on players who finished behind a semi professional team in the conference. A team that never particularly challenged for the top 2 spots. we are told there is little difference between conference and L2 and we attracted enough ex league players to come to conference Grimsby so the contracts must be attractive enough. The euphoria of promotion is still around but remember this was also a team at the back end of the season had a huge inconsistent period. As always in the managers judgement we must rely and would a transition season of flirting with the play offs be that bad? within the next 2 weeks there will be more players looking for contracts then contracts available.
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This post just sets up the "Hurst Out" brigade before the season is out, get a grip FFS. On Tuesday Twitter was saying Podge was signing for Cambridge.
If he goes to Hartlepool the fine they will have Magnay, Toto, Oates and Podge all good players in non league football. That possibly underlines Hartlepools ambition. Please don't lets get hung up on this lot like we have done other teams in the past. Focus on getting behind our new signings when they arrive.
I love Podge he was great for us last season but penalties apart how many goals did he score against the top 6 or so sides in the National League? What does that tell you? Also he had to come down to non league for a reason.
How does anyone know what we are offering? Maybe we are offering deals that agents don't expect rather than players. These deals could be toned down to protect the club. Why would you offer massive pay rises to players after all those years in the wilderness it would be stupid.
The manager has a good record at spotting talent and indeed he brought in the 3 mentioned above who's departure (or potential in the case of Podge) has triggered such emotion. PH has done it before and he will do it again.
Like I have said in previous posts there will be better players than we finished the season with who currently have deals about to finish, just watch this space we will get better than what we have for reasonable money.
That, and it's not just you saying things like that, just smacks of Jilted John to me. Not that Hartlepool are cool and trendy (and certainly not better looking).
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He scored 37 goals, he was a total fan favourite here. I really hope this is some weird joke and he's signed a new contract. Otherwise it doesn't look particularly good, from our out of contract players the two most valuable are off to flipping Hartlepool. Its a statement of intent to keep your best players.
It was a team that finished [/b]4th[b] in National league and a team that struggled towards the end of the season. Toto - improved player last season still had a mistake in his game Amond - scored 37 goals struggled towards to end of the season and it was Bogle who came to the party when we most needed it Arnold - good on his day, but not a 90 minute player week in week out. Tait - after a slow start to the season improved and was Mr consistent This team up to the last 15 minutes of the Braintree away play-off game was not good enough and the fishy members were not a happy bunch. Now we are in a higher league you want these same players to stay. I don't know what we are offering these players to stay, but if they want to move on, for what ever reason then so be. I want players that are keen and committed to GTFC, so we will just have to wait and see what squad Mr Husrt can assemble and get behind them. Up to now the signs have been promising, but he will need a few rabbits out of the hat then he expected
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This is all very worrying in my opinion. I certainly wanted Tait and Arnold to stay. I really really, really wanted Amond to stay!!!
I hope that there is some movement the other way now and we see who next year's heros are going to be. Pre-season friendlies might have to be 5 a side at this rate! One huge signing early this week will make us feel a lot less restless. Boyce would certainly be a good acquisition and someone to partner Bogle!
It's getting nerve wracking and exciting all at the same time!
Got the makings of a good lyric. I like the first verse, but the second needs a bit of work. The lines are a bit long.
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That, and it's not just you saying things like that, just smacks of Jilted John to me. Not that Hartlepool are cool and trendy (and certainly not better looking).
I know that Gordon is a Moron.....................He's not the only one! The top 6 question is one that I have been touting on here for a bit TBH.
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Perhaps Hartlepool are going to be a moneybags club this season a la Notts County the other year? Their ownership set up sounds a bit dodgy to me (probably detailed in the Panama papers!) so it wouldn't surprise me.
Otherwise, you'd expect Portsmouth to be the biggest payers with their fanbase so a move there wouldn't be any sort of surprise.
Given the service, I'd expect him to score 20 in a season at this level. He might not be the quickest or the biggest, but he does have excellent movement. Our wing play was poor for a lot of the season but he still scored loads so I don't doubt he'll do well with better service.
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That, and it's not just you saying things like that, just smacks of Jilted John to me. Not that Hartlepool are cool and trendy (and certainly not better looking).
I thought that but if you look at his record, he scored 2 goals against the top ten placed sides in the National League and one of those was the penalty against Braintree. That's 21 games and only a penalty against Braintree and the tap in at Eastleigh. He won't be playing teams with a defence similar to Woking's or Halifax's in L2. I'm not saying he won't be a loss, he will because he's a great finisher, but I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be like Darryl Clare; tore non-league to shreds but couldn't quite do it in L2.
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I thought that but if you look at his record, he scored 2 goals against the top ten placed sides in the National League and one of those was the penalty against Braintree. That's 21 games and only a penalty against Braintree and the tap in at Eastleigh. He won't be playing teams with a defence similar to Woking's or Halifax's in L2. I'm not saying he won't be a loss, he will because he's a great finisher, but I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be like Darryl Clare; tore non-league to shreds but couldn't quite do it in L2.
That could equally say as much about the service he got from the rest of the team. The fact we didn't get close to the champions yet Podge scored 37 (despite being dropped) suggests the weaknesses were in other areas of the team. Wouldn't have been 21 games. Off the top of my head he didn't play against Tranmere away. Anyway, everyone was ready to kiss his bottom until this rumour broke about Hartlepool. Now it's all "I don't care anyway coz she is ugly and I only went out with her because she let me finger her behind the bike shed. I reckon I can pull better."
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That could equally say as much about the service he got from the rest of the team. The fact we didn't get close to the champions yet Podge scored 37 (despite being dropped) suggests the weaknesses were in other areas of the team.
Wouldn't have been 21 games. Off the top of my head he didn't play against Tranmere away.
Anyway, everyone was ready to kiss his bottom until this rumour broke about Hartlepool. Now it's all "I don't care anyway coz she is ugly and I only went out with her because she let me finger her behind the bike shed. I reckon I can pull better."
Yeah that's very true, I don't doubt that the service should have been better at times. And yeah, won't be 21 games but it's still over 15 I would think. I would still love him to stay I just don't think he's irreplaceable.
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Their crowds were 3900 average last year. I think, absolute stinker of a season apart, ours will be 5000+ next season. Seeing as there are financial fair play rules in League 2, you would assume that would give us a larger projected wage budget than Hartlepool. So it seems it's simply more a case (if Amond is joining or has at any point been close to joining Hartlepool) that they see him as more integral to their side than Hurst does, as reflected in their (presumably larger or longer) contract offer. Hurst will no doubt already have other targets in mind. I wouldn't sweat it*.
*As long as we sign Michael O'Connor**. Please sign O'Connor, Hursts. I know he's not a striker, I just really want us to sign him.
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Their crowds were 3900 average last year. I think, absolute stinker of a season apart, ours will be 5000+ next season. Seeing as there are financial fair play rules in League 2, you would assume that would give us a larger projected wage budget than Hartlepool. So it seems it's simply more a case (if Amond is joining or has at any point been close to joining Hartlepool) that they see him as more integral to their side than Hurst does, as reflected in their (presumably larger or longer) contract offer. Hurst will no doubt already have other targets in mind. I wouldn't sweat it*.
*As long as we sign Michael O'Connor**. Please sign O'Connor, Hursts. I know he's not a striker, I just really want us to sign him.
**Please stay Podge, we're signing Michael O'Connor!!1!
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There are financial fair play rules in league 2 but if an owner donates some money to the club that can be included in the turnover. You are alllowed 55% to spend on wages. So we have to stick to a budget
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/spo.....hare_mobile-masthead If this is true that we only offered a year, that is rank
I can understand that from both sides eg Amonds and Hursts.Amond although a decent player in the conference didnt really make it at Accrington or Stanley for whatever reasons and like others have said may of not been that prolific in league 2 with better quality players.Hurst was probably taking the over cautions approach and giving him a one year to protect the clubs financial assets(I kind of respect that). Eg Amond does well in league 2 like he did in the conference and he may of well probably got a 2 year deal after he had proved himself at a higher level. Seems then Amond then went somewhere else where he got a better contract offer eg 2 years.I be honest I cant blame him but then dont blame Hurst for giving him a one year deal either.For me I think its Amonds loss.Established here and was loved by the fans and he probably fed of that.May struggle at Hartepool this year and not have the same impact eg think of other strikers we have had here recently that do the business for one season then go to other clubs and then get released
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If they offered a 1 year deal only, then who can blame him? I sometimes get the impression that Hurst doesn't like strikers who just score goals and wants more from them. He dropped Connell, Hearn and Amond and also put Hearn on the wing for a while. Never dropped LJL that i can recall.
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I don't blame Hursty for offering him a one year deal, in fact I remember that a couple were saying Offer Toto 3 years and Podge 1. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't tear any trees up next year. Shame we've lost 5 players I expected to keep after promotion and the sides they are signing for suggests Hartlepool are bankrollef big style.
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In general, I don't believe a word printed in the Mail and this article gives me no reason to change this policy.
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Podge great goalscorer at conference level but never cut it above previously and whilst I would have preferred to keep him and give him a chance at League 2 I think Bogle will outscore him over the coming Season.Good Luck Podge and thanks.UTM
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By offering a one year deal, the club made the decision, not Amond. I hope everyone remembers that when they start tweeting him.
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1 year deal a disgrace offered to a man who's goals took us back to the league.
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I'm pretty sure that Podge was played out wide at his last club, so maybe that explains why he never scored so many in League 2 before. He looks a natural finisher to me; scores all types of goals, left foot, right foot, headers and i'm a bit surprised we didn't try harder to keep him.
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I find this hard to understand. Yes, it's true that Amond has not proved himself in L2 but he wasn't playing with Bogle in L2 so it's not a given that he wouldn't do well for Town this season.
Personally I think he has had his defining moment, his Connell season, and that is his career peak as a goalscorer. But this is a squad game and Amond still has something to offer even if he is only one of a 4 striker set up. Hurst may even be able to find what he thinks is a better player than Amond (one that runs all day with his back to goal) but that isn't really the point.
Who are Grimsby likely to sign as back up strikers? Will it be anyone as good as a bloke who scored nearly 40 goals for us last year? Unlikely isn't it? Therefore I'd have thought a 2 year deal was worth a punt. If he does the stuff then sell him on during the 2 years and make a profit. If he doesn't then it's not going to break the bank and he can always go out on loan in the Conference.
All of which makes me think there is rather more to Hurst's decision than meets the eye. Hurst has some very strange ideas about strikers.
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All of a sudden, Bogle appears to be our best striker last season.
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I'm pretty sure that Podge was played out wide at his last club, so maybe that explains why he never scored so many in League 2 before. He looks a natural finisher to me; scores all types of goals, left foot, right foot, headers and i'm a bit surprised we didn't try harder to keep him.
This. Even playing wide he was a 1 in 4 player at this level. Right service to him and he will score goals.
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Should have kept bogle and podge together for one more season that for me would have guaranteed mid table security and maybe more, but I don't blame anyone for chasing money in s short career
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by the sounds of it to me podge already had his mind up he was going to leave ages ago when he gave that interview to humberside after he'd already scored a hat full of goal think it was around Christmas ! I hate this phrase people keep jumping on the band wagon and saying "OH ITS LACK OF AMBITION" get a ducking grip of yourself ! Paul hurst knows him better then anyone at the club not anyone on this forum so I respect his decision I personally wouldn't have offered him a 2 year deal yes I loved him last season and I would of loved it if he'd of stayed but he hasn't and I frankly don't care I have faith in PH and at the end of the day it's about an individual who's nearing the latter stages of his career trying to make as much money as he can for himself to set him up for when he hangs up his boots ! I thank you podge for your services but like I've said before and I will again I really doubt he'll get many over 10 goals next season. just like he did when Connell,Hearn and Lewis left I'm confident PH will find a more then suitable replacement! Don't forget we already have bogle full of confidence after the end of this year ! Thank you and goodbye podge move on !!!
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Who that Tw*t from Ireland Who that money grabbing hore Padraig Amond is he name and he hasn't got a brain And he won't be going up anymore !
Wow! Really?
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No need for the personal insults. He came here with little to no reputation, scored a nearly record amount of goals for us and gave us some of the best striker performances we've seen in years and leaves having done his job of getting us back into the club. There were no games where you could question his effort and I loved watching his clever movement off the ball. He's one of my favourite ever Town players and I wish he was staying but he isn't so we have to trust PH gets a better replacement in and I wish Podge good luck and thanks.
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Who that Tw*t from Ireland Who that money grabbing hore Padraig Amond is he name and he hasn't got a brain And he won't be going up anymore !
Dear me.quite pathetic . Still more original that the song we stole from West Ham and numerous others. Laughable people saying it's his loss etc. Points at limited contract terms,a rumour that's been circulating for weeks.
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Who that Tw*t from Ireland Who that money grabbing hore Padraig Amond is he name and he hasn't got a brain And he won't be going up anymore !
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Who that Tw*t from Ireland Who that money grabbing hore Padraig Amond is he name and he hasn't got a brain And he won't be going up anymore !
I don't think you'll be joining in with the grown ups on this discussion anymore. The EDIT button is your friend,may I suggest.
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Who that Tw*t from Ireland Who that money grabbing hore Padraig Amond is he name and he hasn't got a brain And he won't be going up anymore !
There is absolutely no need for that type of comment. you should be ashamed of yourself. Amond never let anyone down whilst he was here and we should be eternally grateful to him for helping us get out of the non league cesspit. His hat trick at Welling will live long in the memory. Obviously both him and Toto feel they are worth more than gtfc were offering and having found better deals have said, thanks but no thanks. As someone said Hurst works with them day in and day out so our offer will have been based on his opinions. the euphoria of our Wembley win has masked the fact that we were never a strong enough squad to challenge for the Championship (21 points behind i think) so to think that the same players would hold their own in league 2 is delusional. The stats regarding Amond's scoring rate against the better teams is an eye opener and may help explain the 1 year offer. Finally one other thing that hasn't been mentioned is Hurst's comments from a couple of weeks ago about he was amazed by the quality of player he was now being offered by agents now we are back in the League
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No need for the personal insults. He came here with little to no reputation, scored a nearly record amount of goals for us and gave us some of the best striker performances we've seen in years and leaves having done his job of getting us back into the club. There were no games where you could question his effort and I loved watching his clever movement off the ball. He's one of my favourite ever Town players and I wish he was staying but he isn't so we have to trust PH gets a better replacement in and I wish Podge good luck and thanks.
I agree with your assessment of the lad. Good finishers are born, not made and Amond is a natural. Given the right service he could score goals at any level though maybe not to the extent of last season. Clearly the manager does not rate him as highly as you or I though or he would be staying, or at least be given more encouragement to stay. Maybe the problem is that clever movement off the ball. Hurst just doesn't like his strikers to be clever, he likes them to be solid with their first movement being either towards their own goal or straight down the channel. If Tomlinson had scored a couple of goals he would still be here. I think we may miss Podge's ability to make space in the box for himself and for others. Disley's goal tally owed a bit to Amond's movement and it also made Nolan look a good player.
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All in all, it's just disappointing to see him go to another club at the same level. I totally understand Tait and Nolan and, if he didn't like a proportion of our fans, Toto. But I would have hoped that we could have kept Podge and Nath but, hey ho, money talks and all that. Let's hope that the rabbits in PH's hat are ready with their signing pens.
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Amond came here for a season. He helped us get promoted and we helped him giving him the season of his life and putting him in shop window.
No malice from me towards him even if he has just left for more money. I don't care, who could blame him.
Matt Dannatt now tweeted that he believes Town did try to extend his deal in January.
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I apologise for stating the OP was rubbish. Always thought he would leave for a better offer but HARTLEPOOL!!
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Seems a no brainer to offer him a two year deal. If he has a good season this year we'll be able to command a decent fee for him next time next year. He's 28 so probably has at least 4-5 season left at a decent level.
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Seems a no brainer to offer him a two year deal. If he has a good season this year we'll be able to command a decent fee for him next time next year. He's 28 so probably has at least 4-5 season left at a decent level.
Agreed, the only risk to offering him 2 years is injury, but that comes with every player. Had he done well this year again great, if he'd struggled he would be easy to offload to a big money conference club. It's a no brainer to offer him two years, I'd be amazed if the club haven't. People are now rubbishing his record and saying they're not bothered, but goals like that are hard to replace. PH has a great record in signing players, but I certainly think questions need to be asked about whether it is budget restrictions or that we weren't really that bothered about resigning them? Season ticket prices have been upped to supposedly give us a competitive budget, who the intercourse are we competing with if our best players are going to smaller clubs in a the same division? I am positive about PH, but remain sceptical about the running of the club at board level.
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Really don't see how we could have offered Amond , Tait or Arnold anymore than 1 deals when they're not proven at this level. We must remember they all got released by league 2 clubs to come to us!
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Agreed, the only risk to offering him 2 years is injury, but that comes with every player. Had he done well this year again great, if he'd struggled he would be easy to offload to a big money conference club. It's a no brainer to offer him two years, I'd be amazed if the club haven't. People are now rubbishing his record and saying they're not bothered, but goals like that are hard to replace. PH has a great record in signing players, but I certainly think questions need to be asked about whether it is budget restrictions or that we weren't really that bothered about resigning them? Season ticket prices have been upped to supposedly give us a competitive budget, who the intercourse are we competing with if our best players are going to smaller clubs in a the same division?
I am positive about PH, but remain sceptical about the running of the club at board level.
Its a fact and has been said many times by various ex Town managers under John Fenty, he has never short changed any manager who wanted to A hang onto a player or B acquire a new player, truth is its PH decision on who to retain and on what conditions, and past experience has taught me he knows best
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The Hartlepool Mail reports that Hartlepool United are closing in on the signing of Grimsby Town forward Padraig Amond. The striker fired in 33 goals in 46 appearances for the Mariners as they won promotion last season.
Pools boss Craig Hignett has already made one summer capture from Grimsby. Centre back Toto Nsiala made the move to Victoria Park last week.
It is believed that the 28-year-old striker will sign a two-year contract with the club. He looks set to reject a new contract with the newly-promoted Blundell Park club.
Amond therefore looks set to end his one-year stay with Grimsby Town. Prior to this he spent time at Morecambe and Accrington Stanley amongst other clubs.
It looks set to be another blow for manager Paul Hurst, who is set to lose another key member of his promotion winning squad. Jon Nolan is another to leave to join another club in the aftermath of last season.
Nevertheless, Hartlepool are about to get their hands on a proven goalscorer. The fact he has experience of this level is also a big plus. Now he has got his confidence back at Grimsby, he will be hoping to continue where he left off last season. The Irishman will now be hoping to warm himself to his new fans when the season starts once again in August.
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I really do think Hurst made this decision. And he's usually right, so I'll go with him.
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Just because Town have been promoted does not mean that all the players are fantastic-just members of a successful squad. Hartlepool, the poor relations of the North East, are hoping that by buying the services of a striker and a full back from a previously successful team then they will enjoy the same .
It didn't work like that when PH bought a load of York players under the same circumstances!
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Its a fact and has been said many times by various ex Town managers under John Fenty, he has never short changed any manager who wanted to A hang onto a player or B acquire a new player, truth is its PH decision on who to retain and on what conditions, and past experience has taught me he knows best
I'm not sure it's the managers who have come up with that 'fact'. Whether it is a hurst or budget decision is unclear.
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I'm not sure it's the managers who have come up with that 'fact'. Whether it is a hurst or budget decision is unclear.
Think about it, if Hurst wanted Podge (top scorer) to stay and was told no by the board, knowing the pride of the manager regarding his past exploits, do you not think it would be Hurst who would have decided to leave the club. I think and its only a guess that Hurst as we all, admired Podge`s efforts last season, but he will not be held to ransom by any one player at the expense of the team, good luck Podge but not against us
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We cannot fall into the way of signing a player who has one brilliant game against us - Fyfield is one huge example of a player who ripped us apart, but couldn't do the same playing for us.
I just hope Hurst is looking at players with some natural pace in them, as our passing tempo has mostly been quite slow last season.
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We cannot fall into the way of signing a player who has one brilliant game against us - Fyfield is one huge example of a player who ripped us apart, but couldn't do the same playing for us.
I just hope Hurst is looking at players with some natural pace in them, as our passing tempo has mostly been quite slow last season.
Not how i remember it. He scored a great goal admitted but "ripped us apart" ? No. I doubt he was signed on the strength of one game either.
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Really don't see how we could have offered Amond , Tait or Arnold anymore than 1 deals when they're not proven at this level. We must remember they all got released by league 2 clubs to come to us!
...Yeah but in the case of Tait and Amond, there was obviously going to be better offers on the table, so a 1 year contract is just a token gesture....the real disappointment is that a club like Hartlepool are able to poach our best players.
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Podge had a brilliant season for us, He scored loads of goals, Got dropped on the odd occasion, But never complained he just got his head down and worked harder, He was 100% a professional . However he did struggle to score against the better teams, He his at an age to start making some money out of this games as he will not have that many seasons left if he stayed with us for another year or two, So if he goes I will be sad but he goes with my blessing and good wishes, Thanks for the promotion Podge because we would not have done it without your goals, Just do not come back here and score against us.
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Who's to say he would score the amount of goals he did last season anyway! He will be up against better defences this season, TBH when I first heard he was going I was a bit miffed (so was my lad) but now I'm excited in who Paul will be bringing in, remember we have Bogle who himself is a very good striker - let's stay positive about this.
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Think about it, if Hurst wanted Podge (top scorer) to stay and was told no by the board, knowing the pride of the manager regarding his past exploits, do you not think it would be Hurst who would have decided to leave the club. I think and its only a guess that Hurst as we all, admired Podge`s efforts last season, but he will not be held to ransom by any one player at the expense of the team, good luck Podge but not against us
I don't know. Really, none of us do. Looking at the evidence, no players were offered more than a 12 months contract so that looks to me like a policy decision regardless of individuals. It doesn't strike me as a ransom situation, more a take it or leave it one. The offers were sort of "we don't mind if you want to stay another year but if you can do better elsewhere we won't try and stop you". There will be reasons for that policy but we can't second guess at this stage. It's a high risk strategy though if all those players prove to have been at least as good as squad fillers Hurst might be forced into taking just to make up the numbers in a hurry.
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I don't know. Really, none of us do. Looking at the evidence, no players were offered more than a 12 months contract so that looks to me like a policy decision regardless of individuals. It doesn't strike me as a ransom situation, more a take it or leave it one.
The offers were sort of "we don't mind if you want to stay another year but if you can do better elsewhere we won't try and stop you".
There will be reasons for that policy but we can't second guess at this stage. It's a high risk strategy though if all those players prove to have been at least as good as squad fillers Hurst might be forced into taking just to make up the numbers in a hurry.
Or maybe offering some one year deals has freed up the opportunity to offer new additions of better quality 2 year deals. If you want to bring in players who are better than what you have/had then you need to offer more value in a deal than what you would to existing players. This feels a bit disloyal to those that took us up but sadly it happens that way.
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I don't know. Really, none of us do. Looking at the evidence, no players were offered more than a 12 months contract so that looks to me like a policy decision regardless of individuals. It doesn't strike me as a ransom situation, more a take it or leave it one.
The offers were sort of "we don't mind if you want to stay another year but if you can do better elsewhere we won't try and stop you".
There will be reasons for that policy but we can't second guess at this stage. It's a high risk strategy though if all those players prove to have been at least as good as squad fillers Hurst might be forced into taking just to make up the numbers in a hurry.
Macca got a 2 year deal and we don't know what Nolan or Toto were offered.
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Who that Tw*t from Ireland Who that money grabbing hore Padraig Amond is he name and he hasn't got a brain And he won't be going up anymore !
That's not really on is it.. Disrespect for a player that gave his all for our club.
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Or maybe offering some one year deals has freed up the opportunity to offer new additions of better quality 2 year deals. If you want to bring in players who are better than what you have/had then you need to offer more value in a deal than what you would to existing players. This feels a bit disloyal to those that took us up but sadly it happens that way.
My thoughts exactly. Were we trying to sign a 37-goal striker from the Conference I'm certain we'd offer them more than a 1 year contract. But Hurst isn't naïve, surely he must have known offering only a 1 year contract (if that is the case) would almost certainly see Amond going elsewhere? An exercise in pointlessness it seems. It's a bit perplexing, unless Hurst truly feels he can get better value for money with other players. Amond has gotten double figures in League 2 before and was apparently played on the wing for most of that season, so it's not as if he hasn't shown he is League 2 quality before.
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Was it that Arnold told people or someone said Arnold told people ? we all know how rumours spread. Loads of Shite flying about at the moment.
Ah , but was this a plausible rumour ?
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I hate this " Billy Big Bollox " attitude towards Hartlepool - they are a Div 2 side , same as us!. We don't know their wage structure, finances or anything else about the clubs funding. They could be aiming for a small, well paid squad or have several players on long , lowish pay contracts that allows them to fund one or two quality players. PH knows what he needs.He was certainly a very experienced league defender and as such knows what a sort of striker he needs to combat a league 2 defence. If Amond was offered a 1 year deal , then fair enough, it gives PH time to assess his effectiveness against League 2 defences and doesn't tie us to a player who doesn't repeat his goal scoring feats this season. As has been pointed out he has played at this level for two other clubs and certainly didn't tear any trees up for them. Maybe he wasn't played at his best position for them but that would be a strong argument if it only applied to one team but not two.
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Official now >> http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news/article/hartlepool-united-sign-grimsby-town-striker-padraig-amond-3146931.aspx
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Craig Hignett has landed one of his top transfer targets of the summer after securing the signing of prolific front man Padraig Amond from Grimsby Town. The 28-year-old blasted an incredible 37 goals last term, becoming a huge fans’ favourite at Blundell Park as he played a key role in The Mariners’ promotion from the National League.
Town offered the Irishman new terms at the end of last season but Pools boss Hignett quickly identified him as a target and has managed to persuade him his future lies at Victoria Park.
“For us to attract someone like him, who scored over 30 goals in the league below, is a coup for the Club,” Hignett insisted.
“We have had him watched a lot so we know what he can do, what he’s capable of and what he can bring to the side. He’s hungry, he’s ambitious and he’s also the right kind of character.
“There were a lot of clubs in for him – as you would think there would be – but we’re delighted that we’ve managed to tempt him to The Vic.
“He’s excited by what he sees happening at the Club, as our other new signings have been, so we are really pleased that he’s decided to sign for us.”
Amond follows his former Grimsby team-mate Toto Nsiala in joining Pools this summer; the pair know each other well having also played together at Accrington.
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Well Podge cant have had a lot of other good offers on the table or he wouldn't have joined the Pool! Toto and Podge are very good conference players but are they very good League 2 players? Only time will tell, but the bookies all have us to finish above Hartlepool! I'm going to trust Hurst on this one until proven otherwise.
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