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The way I see it we have a couple of options.
We can sit back and let the season meander to its conclusion (good or bad)
Or we could (if I was Fenty) have a meeting with the manager and have a frank discussion about what is going on (there is obviously something not quite right behind the scenes)
If that meeting goes badly, we could remove Hurst now and put Doig in charge for the remaining games. Having seen the players close up he might be able to fit our best players into a unit to rediscover our form and give the fans some hope to make and win the play offs.
It would be a gamble and some would say harsh on Hurst, but professional football is a harsh business. A few weeks ago I would say certainly give Hurst till the end of the season, but he seems to be a manger under pressure who cannot see the woods for the trees.
I looked at the league table tonight and was absolutely shocked to see how close the pack was. Where did they come from ? We agree on a lot of things but we cant really sack the manager at this stage of the season. We are most likely going to be in play offs and have reached Wembley. If we sack him now who do we get, we surely can,t put Doig in charge,He,ll have the same thoughts and tactics as his mentor.All we can do is keep our fingers crossed for 2 Wembley victories. If this does happen it will be upto J.F. as to what happens next season If he kept him on it would upset a lot of fans but if he sacked him we would see him on the telly every night trying to explain why he got rid of a promoted Trophy winning team manager. If you want Hurst out you have got to hope that we win sweet f*ck all THE CHOICE IS YOURS !!
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I looked at the league table tonight and was absolutely shocked to see how close the pack was. Where did they come from ? We agree on a lot of things but we cant really sack the manager at this stage of the season. We are most likely going to be in play offs and have reached Wembley. If we sack him now who do we get, we surely can,t put Doig in charge,He,ll have the same thoughts and tactics as his mentor.All we can do is keep our fingers crossed for 2 Wembley victories. If this does happen it will be upto J.F. as to what happens next season If he kept him on it would upset a lot of fans but if he sacked him we would see him on the telly every night trying to explain why he got rid of a promoted Trophy winning team manager. If you want Hurst out you have got to hope that we win sweet f*ck all THE CHOICE IS YOURS !!
Not necessarily. There have been examples at BP where an assistant has taken over who has a different personality to the previous boss and has done well. George Kerr was very different to John Newman, Dave Booth was definitely different to George Kerr, Paul Groves was very different to Lenny Lawrence. There is no reason to think Doig is a Hurst clone, an assistant has to do as he is told, like it or not. I'm not saying he would be an ideal manager. We really have needed a positive motivator for the crucial games for a long time. I don't know if Doig could be that man. However, if the non-chairman is serious about promotion he should be serious about considering a radical action. But thinking outside the box is not his strongpoint is it?
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Not necessarily. There have been examples at BP where an assistant has taken over who has a different personality to the previous boss and has done well. George Kerr was very different to John Newman, Dave Booth was definitely different to George Kerr, Paul Groves was very different to Lenny Lawrence. There is no reason to think Doig is a Hurst clone, an assistant has to do as he is told, like it or not.
I'm not saying he would be an ideal manager. We really have needed a positive motivator for the crucial games for a long time. I don't know if Doig could be that man. However, if the non-chairman is serious about promotion he should be serious about considering a radical action. But thinking outside the box is not his strongpoint is it?
I can see where you are coming from but I still wouldn,t like to take a chance on Doig this late in the season--all we can do is sit back and hope. P.S. I thought Rafferty,s 6th goal from a Johnny Scott centre in that lincs Cup thrashing of Lincoln was his best ever header.
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I can see where you are coming from but I still wouldn,t like to take a chance on Doig this late in the season--all we can do is sit back and hope. P.S. I thought Rafferty,s 6th goal from a Johnny Scott centre in that lincs Cup thrashing of Lincoln was his best ever header.
I think it is never going to happen anyway. There is a picture in the GT archives somewhere of Ron practicing his heading with a ball suspended on string behind the Osmond Stand. He practiced his "hang in the air" technique on it by raising the ball a bit at a time. Sadly I never saw the Lincs Cup sixer. The best I saw was again from a Johnny Scott centre but against Southampton.
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People have been saying all season "now's not the time to get rid". When is? When does taking a risk become less risky than "not taking a risk"?
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Whoever takes over, they'll have a job on there hands to beat 3rd place....
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I looked at the league table tonight and was absolutely shocked to see how close the pack was. Where did they come from ? We agree on a lot of things but we cant really sack the manager at this stage of the season. We are most likely going to be in play offs and have reached Wembley. If we sack him now who do we get, we surely can,t put Doig in charge,He,ll have the same thoughts and tactics as his mentor.All we can do is keep our fingers crossed for 2 Wembley victories. If this does happen it will be upto J.F. as to what happens next season If he kept him on it would upset a lot of fans but if he sacked him we would see him on the telly every night trying to explain why he got rid of a promoted Trophy winning team manager. If you want Hurst out you have got to hope that we win sweet f*ck all THE CHOICE IS YOURS !!
Agree, To expect him to be moved on now is unrealistic and bloody minded to say the least. As for Doig as a replacement, if nothing else has been proved in Paul Hurst time at the club and that is that we possibly need experience and tried and tested rather than certificates e.g. Martin Allen, Jon Still, Richard Money, Justin Edinburgh etc... even Paul Cox could be interesting.
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Whoever takes over, they'll have a job on there hands to beat 3rd place....
That's the kind of positivity we need! Never say die eh?! Up and at em. Up and at em!
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I think it is never going to happen anyway.
There is a picture in the GT archives somewhere of Ron practicing his heading with a ball suspended on string behind the Osmond Stand. He practiced his "hang in the air" technique on it by raising the ball a bit at a time. Sadly I never saw the Lincs Cup sixer. The best I saw was again from a Johnny Scott centre but against Southampton.
That is fantastic
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Fingers crossed, grin and bear it for the run in and for gods sake let's not let negative vitriol destroy the togetherness between squad and fan's at this crucial time.
Barring last Season to a degree we always seem to end up with a kind of despondent downbeat atmosphere around the place when we fail to win title and cruise into playoffs... -when very much everything is still to play for!
I understand the frustrations; a case of 'yet again' but this poisonous feeling could be self-perpetuating. Great if you want to crow from the rooftops ''I told you so'', not so great towards actually achieving our objective (despite obvious misgivings).
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