Anti stadium politicians

As it's nearly voting time and there's not a lot to choose between the different parties can anyone remember which ones were against the stadium so i can wipe them off the list.

What's wrong with Blundell Park - the home of the Eastleigh victory - the venue of massive excitement last Sunday - the identity of Grimsby Town Football Club - oops - I'll get my coat

Haha nothing , the memories are great but it's getting costly and shabby, we need a venue to be proud of with facilities that would encourage a wider range of support.

Quoted from Grim up north

As it's nearly voting time and there's not a lot to choose between the different parties can anyone remember which ones were against the stadium so i can wipe them off the list.

Mr Defreitas and his Lib Dems didn't look to kindly on it.

Labour's candidate for the Park Ward is the Mariner's Trust secretary, I believe.

Quoted from JoeTheMariner

Mr Defreitas and his Lib Dems didn't look to kindly on it.

Labour's candidate for the Park Ward is the Mariner's Trust secretary, I believe.

It's the national elections rather than local. I personally don't know what the stance of the MP's is on it?

DeFreitas is up for re-election in the Park Ward tomorrow according to the GET.  

A chance for GTFC fans in that ward to replace him with a more sympathetic councillor?

Quoted from gtfc98

It's the national elections rather than local. I personally don't know what the stance of the MP's is on it?

It is both national and local elections here.

Incidentally the person standing in Park Ward is not the Mariners Trust secretary but the Treasurer

Can we also have a ban on any nay saying councillors etc coming to Wembley with us? They don't deserve to jump on the band wagon if they aren't prepared to help move the club forward

Fruitcake ex Tory Ukipper, Victoria Ayling wants to build it on Pywipe between the sewerage outfall and the fishmeal factory. But only when the renewable energy runs out.

Wasn't there a post a while back with all the councillors stances on the stadium?

Although I'm a Tory, I'd rather see Melanie Onn win Grimsby as Ayling is not only a nutter, but UKIP will kill the stadium plan stone dead with their "Pye in the Sky" idea.  

Coalition pleasantries don't extend to DeFreitas and I hope whoever the best place candidate in Park manages to unseat him, who happens to be Ian Townsend.  Not only is Ian Treasurer of the Mariners Trust, I also had the pleasure of working with him about ten years ago and he's a really decent bloke who would make a great councillor as well as a brilliant advocate for the club.  I hope my fellow Tories can put party loyalties to one side if they live in Park and give Ian their backing.

UKIP Victoria Ayling stance on a new stadium

http://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/article/new-stadium-progressing-well-2059496.aspx

Quoted from HackneyHaddock

Although I'm a Tory, I'd rather see Melanie Onn win Grimsby as Ayling is not only a nutter, but UKIP will kill the stadium plan stone dead with their "Pye in the Sky" idea.  

Coalition pleasantries don't extend to DeFreitas and I hope whoever the best place candidate in Park manages to unseat him, who happens to be Ian Townsend.  Not only is Ian Treasurer of the Mariners Trust, I also had the pleasure of working with him about ten years ago and he's a really decent bloke who would make a great councillor as well as a brilliant advocate for the club.  I hope my fellow Tories can put party loyalties to one side if they live in Park and give Ian their backing.

So what exactly have Labour done for the new ground these past 20 years.

Martin Vickers sits near me in the upper find us. Not sure about his view on relocation though.

Quoted from arryarryarry

So what exactly have Labour done for the new ground these past 20 years.

Zilch, in common with all other parties.  The area has been badly served by politicians of all parties.  I think Martin Vickers has been good for the area and is a Town fan.  I would imagine he is for the relocation, but MPs tend to be careful voicing opinions on planning matters so as not to damage one side.  I would be amazed if John Fenty hasn't been having conversations with Martin about the subject.

Quoted from jimgtfc

Martin Vickers sits near me in the upper find us. Not sure about his view on relocation though.

I'm no Tory, but he's a big town fan, spoke to him on the train a few weeks ago and he's very excited about plans for the new ground, he feels it will have a similar effect to what happened to Doncaster rovers, he came across as a decent nice genuine guy who hasd time to listen not at all what you expect from a politician!

Quoted from JoeTheMariner

Mr Defreitas and his Lib Dems didn't look to kindly on it.

Labour's candidate for the Park Ward is the Mariner's Trust secretary, I believe.

No he isn't!

Quoted from arryarryarry

So what exactly have Labour done for the new ground these past 20 years.

Labour weren't in charge at the time of the Great Coates debacle. It was a Tory/Lib Dem coalition...ring any bells!?

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Fruitcake ex Tory Ukipper, Victoria Ayling wants to build it on Pywipe between the sewerage outfall and the fishmeal factory. But only when the renewable energy runs out.

Which is the perfect metaphor for them really.

Quoted from Grim up north

As it's nearly voting time and there's not a lot to choose between the different parties can anyone remember which ones were against the stadium so i can wipe them off the list.

Here's the original thread with the views of Parliamentary candidates for GY

http://www.thefishy.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1424478315/s-0/

Quoted from barralad

Labour weren't in charge at the time of the Great Coates debacle. It was a Tory/Lib Dem coalition...ring any bells!?

Erm I was answering a comment about the local/prospective MP not necessarily the local party.

So please do tell us all what Austin Mitchell has done for GTFC and the new ground.

Vickers is a decent bloke, I understand.

Don't forget, however, that a vote for him is a vote for Cameron and Osborne, two of the most devious and dishonest politicians for a generation. They even make some of the Thatcher era bunch seem principled!  

Hope everyone finds the time to vote. Nice day for it.

Quoted from Maringer

Vickers is a decent bloke, I understand.

Don't forget, however, that a vote for him is a vote for Cameron and Osborne, two of the most devious and dishonest politicians for a generation. They even make some of the Thatcher era bunch seem principled!  

Hope everyone finds the time to vote. Nice day for it.

Without trying to make this into another political rant you could include many MPs especially from the Labour Party (Gordon Brown one of the biggest and devious lying twits around).

It would be interesting to count up how many from each party have been sentenced to prison for being devious and dishonest.

Quoted from barralad

Labour weren't in charge at the time of the Great Coates debacle. It was a Tory/Lib Dem coalition...ring any bells!?

John Fenty was in charge....he got the planning permission but let it go....as he didnt have a sustainable plan to finance it without an enabling partner......a bit like Peakes Parkway or just about any other site we may identify, the club cant afford to move on their own and that isnt any council's or M.P's fault.
Enabling partners are required and that means a bigger development outside of the stadium one way or another which means changes to local plans, longer planning processes etc. If the club could self finance we would have been playing in the Sponsored by Conoco Stadium by now but it cant.

Just vote for Melanie Onn, she's bloody lovely.

Quoted from arryarryarry

It would be interesting to count up how many from each party have been sentenced to prison for being devious and dishonest.

Not many of any party is the answer. They tend to get away with blue murder most of the time though the odd ones have been sent to prison for perjury.

Disagree with you about Gordon Brown's dishonesty as he wasn't too bad from what I remember (for a long-serving politician, that is). Call Me Dave, on the other hand... I'd check twice if he told me the sky was blue.  

Actually, it's nice not to have all the TV and radio banging on about the election campaign today. They aren't allowed to do much more than basic reporting on election day so it's pretty peaceful in comparison to the whirlwind of bullshit they've been putting out every 5 minutes for the past few months!

The only problem is that we've got weeks more of it to come if, as seems likely, there is another hung parliament.  

Quoted from Maringer

Not many of any party is the answer. They tend to get away with blue murder most of the time though the odd ones have been sent to prison for perjury.

Disagree with you about Gordon Brown's dishonesty as he wasn't too bad from what I remember (for a long-serving politician, that is). Call Me Dave, on the other hand... I'd check twice if he told me the sky was blue.  

Actually, it's nice not to have all the TV and radio banging on about the election campaign today. They aren't allowed to do much more than basic reporting on election day so it's pretty peaceful in comparison to the whirlwind of bullshit they've been putting out every 5 minutes for the past few months!

The only problem is that we've got weeks more of it to come if, as seems likely, there is another hung parliament.  

Mmmm perhaps you can tell me what happened to the promised referendum on the EU Lisbon Treaty.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Mmmm perhaps you can tell me what happened to the promised referendum on the EU Lisbon Treaty.

Probably the same thing as Cameron and Osborne's promises not to raise VAT or have a top-down reorganisation of the NHS whilst reducing immigration to tens of thousands.  

On the local scene and Park Ward in particular i see that Mr Defrietas is up to his old tricks again.

The day before the election, allowing no time for a response, he issued additional leaflets claiming the local labour candidate in his ward, non other than The Fishy's own Barralad is a 'plant' from the Trust to get the stadium plans through and a vote for Labour in Park Ward is a vote for a new stadium!

Now my knowledge of said Fishy member is that he has been a Labour party member for a lot longer than he has been Trust treasurer.

One thing it does say about Mr Defrietas is that he is running scared.

Make my day if DeF is ousted

Quoted from BIGChris

On the local scene and Park Ward in particular i see that Mr Defrietas is up to his old tricks again.

The day before the election, allowing no time for a response, he issued additional leaflets claiming the local labour candidate in his ward, non other than The Fishy's own Barralad is a 'plant' from the Trust to get the stadium plans through and a vote for Labour in Park Ward is a vote for a new stadium!

Now my knowledge of said Fishy member is that he has been a Labour party member for a lot longer than he has been Trust treasurer.

One thing it does say about Mr Defrietas is that he is running scared.

Make my day if DeF is ousted

I think we all echo that! It would make my day if he left Grimsby and never came back!

I've no idea what the politicians in my ward (Haverstoe) think about the new stadium. Can anybody tell me if any of them are particularly pro or anti? I'll be voting after work.

Quoted from Maringer

I've no idea what the politicians in my ward (Haverstoe) think about the new stadium. Can anybody tell me if any of them are particularly pro or anti? I'll be voting after work.

Bound to be at least one of them outside the polling station, just ask them directly.

Quoted from BIGChris

On the local scene and Park Ward in particular i see that Mr Defrietas is up to his old tricks again.

The day before the election, allowing no time for a response, he issued additional leaflets claiming the local labour candidate in his ward, non other than The Fishy's own Barralad is a 'plant' from the Trust to get the stadium plans through and a vote for Labour in Park Ward is a vote for a new stadium!

Now my knowledge of said Fishy member is that he has been a Labour party member for a lot longer than he has been Trust treasurer.

One thing it does say about Mr Defrietas is that he is running scared.

Make my day if DeF is ousted

Old tricks... or boxing clever ?
He has been in local politics quite a long while and knows how to play his hand.....not that i want him to win and agree with your final line but at the end of the day that ward's hottest topic is the stadium so to make progress you have to distract the voters onto something else current,
ie Why hasn't the current ward councillor done something pro active to prevent the gypsys constantly returning to the area rather than just issuing a move along notice every time they return?

Quoted from moosey_club

Old tricks... or boxing clever ?
He has been in local politics quite a long while and knows how to play his hand.....not that i want him to win and agree with your final line but at the end of the day that ward's hottest topic is the stadium so to make progress you have to distract the voters onto something else current,
ie Why hasn't the current ward councillor done something pro active to prevent the gypsys constantly returning to the area rather than just issuing a move along notice every time they return?

Mr DeF has a loyal following but having lived in the ward for 20 yrs I feel that he is a one trick pony. All his leaflets revolve around one thing, the stadium.

Park ward is a large area, from memory it goes up to Littlecoates Rd and in the other direction Ainslie St, now many of those people will be unaffected by the stadium, whether it goes ahead or not. Maybe they have other things that are important to them, maybe pot holes, anti social behaviour or the brown bin collection.

I will be voting later but hope that his loyal following are ultimately out numbered

DeFreitas is beneath contempt.  I hope he gets "Tonked".

I live on scartho top and DeFreitas was on my local councillor form

Quoted from craigy

I live on scartho top and DeFreitas was on my local councillor form

That's 'son of'

Quoted from Maringer

Not many of any party is the answer. They tend to get away with blue murder most of the time though the odd ones have been sent to prison for perjury.

Disagree with you about Gordon Brown's dishonesty as he wasn't too bad from what I remember (for a long-serving politician, that is). Call Me Dave, on the other hand... I'd check twice if he told me the sky was blue.  

Actually, it's nice not to have all the TV and radio banging on about the election campaign today. They aren't allowed to do much more than basic reporting on election day so it's pretty peaceful in comparison to the whirlwind of bullshit they've been putting out every 5 minutes for the past few months!

The only problem is that we've got weeks more of it to come if, as seems likely, there is another hung parliament.  

What he thinks he's a Coventry fan now? "I'm sure it was one of those soccer teams in the Midlands".

Any news on De Freitas?

Melanie Onn won Grimsby and Martin Vickers retains Cleethorpes.

Not sure about your park ward.

Quoted from gtfc98

Any news on De Freitas?

Not sure when the council election results are announced?

I'd imagine they do the local election count once the general election one has been carried out? I tend to doubt that newly-elected councillors will look much more favourably on the new stadium application than the last bunch, however.

An almost unbelievable result in the general election as a new coalition seemed the only way that any party would be able to govern. Caught everyone by surprise, that one. It was at least pleasing to see UKIP fail to make any inroads in Grimsby and elsewhere.

God help us with Osborne at the helm of the economy for the next 5 years, that's all I can say. At some point the truth will come out.

Council count starts at 11:30 this morning...

Good Luck Ian

Quoted from barralad

Council count starts at 11:30 this morning...

Wont take long to count your votes!

Locally....Labour currently leading the way 19 / 9/ 8  from Con and UKIP  in second/ third ....UKIP taking alot of second places behind Labour in the results so far.......no Park Ward as yet.....

Defreitas did not win !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    















David Michael De Freitas that is ......over in Scartho..... sorry...couldnt resist.  

Bad news...

Andrew De freitas retains his place with a 522 majority.  

intercourse sake. what a terrible 24 hours for politics

Quoted from moosey_club

Bad news...

Andrew De freitas retains his place with a 600 majority.  

DeFrietas    1745
Barralad     1223
Rudkin        1145

wins by 522

Quoted from BIGChris

DeFrietas    1745
Barralad     1223
Rudkin        1145

wins by 522

oops...amended

Quoted from moosey_club

oops...amended

No problem.

Many have commented about 'proportional representation in the media for the general election but  nearly 70% of those who could be bothered to get off their arses and vote in Park Ward voted for someone other than DeFrietas!

what a excrement day for politics.

Hes the scartho park ward not peaks parkway.....ooo i hate politics

Quoted from BIGChris

No problem.

Many have commented about 'proportional representation in the media for the general election but  nearly 70% of those who could be bothered to get off their arses and vote in Park Ward voted for someone other than DeFrietas!

The rise of UKIP certainly in this local election wise has had a big effect i imagine, looking through ward by ward they pushed the two traditional parties apart and took second place in a large majority of wards, if they were not there who would have got those votes instead?
Will never know now i suppose.

Quoted from moosey_club

The rise of UKIP certainly in this local election wise has had a big effect i imagine, looking through ward by ward they pushed the two traditional parties apart and took second place in a large majority of wards, if they were not there who would have got those votes instead?
Will never know now i suppose.

True, time will tell if it is a 'fad', protest vote or a change on the political landscape forever?

Despite what many say i personally am happy that someone got an overall majority nationally, as it would have been far worse for the country had every vote been a game of cat and mouse. We could well have had to do the whole thing again before the year was out

Quoted from BIGChris

True, time will tell if it is a 'fad', protest vote or a change on the political landscape forever?

Depends on whether or not we end up exiting Europe following the referendum in 2016. It'll be catastrophic to the economy if we do, but signs are certainly pointing that it could perhaps happen. Expect a pro-Europe onslaught by most of the press in the lead up to the referendum to try and change people's minds.

If there was a 'no' vote, I'd struggle to see UKIP becoming a force in the way that the SNP has. On the other hand, if we were to exit Europe, what would be the point of them?

Anybody notice that A DeF will resign after this term of office, how long is it two or three years

Quoted from BIGChris

True, time will tell if it is a 'fad', protest vote or a change on the political landscape forever?

Despite what many say i personally am happy that someone got an overall majority nationally, as it would have been far worse for the country had every vote been a game of cat and mouse. We could well have had to do the whole thing again before the year was out

Whilst I'm generally unhappy that the Tories have increased their strangle hold on power.  I am in agreement that another coalition Government would be the worst thing that could happen for this country. It's also highly unlikely we would get the benefit of deciding again any time within the next five years either.

Under the  Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 calling a snap election isn't that easy any more.  It basically requires a vote of no confidence from two-thirds of the house, a figure that would require rebellion within the Tory ranks to achieve.

Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner

Anybody notice that A DeF will resign after this term of office, how long is it two or three years

Four i'm afraid....

Quoted from Grimsby Telegraph | Posted: 9th May 2015

FORMER council leader Andrew DeFreitas wept as he announced this will be his last election campaign.

Securing the Park ward, a seat he has represented for more than 30 years, the veteran councillor and leader of the local Lib Dem group said he will serve for a further four years but not contest the seat at the next election.

Link >> [url=http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/Election-2015-final-stand-Andrew-DeFreitas/story-26466204-detail/story.html]http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/Election-2015-final-stand-Andrew-DeFreitas/story-26466204-detail/story.html[/url]