Penalty....

Can someone please explain to me how Eastleigh should have had a penalty tonight?

Didn't these TV pundits clearly see that the Eastleigh forward was illegally blocking off Macca, preventing him from kicking the ball, obstructing him. Hence the game was restarted with a free kick to Grimsby...

Exactly. Free kick to Town for obstruction.

Those pundits are terrible. It's why the mute button/kettle was invented.

spot on... free kick for obstruction... you can stand there but you cannot move and block the keeper... dangerous play...

Exactly what we were saying.

Dangerous play? How is that dangerous? Not arguing,  Just asking...

I thought the ref was the best I can remember seeing since we've been in the conference.  

Quoted from Badger57

Dangerous play? How is that dangerous? Not arguing,  Just asking...

Obstruction I would say. Shame Big Chris isn't on hand to give ref view. Naive from Macca but we should've had free kick before incident moved to that push.

Agree with all the above. Straightforward blocking of the keeper trying to kick it out. No controversy until the pundits tried to make one.

Thought the ref was decent enough. Gave quite a few soft free kicks to Eastleigh but nothing to get too angry over. We've had far, far worse.

I thought McKeown was daft to shove their player. Even though he was being obstructed, it was a risky move and you don't want to give the referees a reason to make a decision if you don't need to. Thought Disley could have been penalised near the death as well, but probably just outside the box and the ref didn't give it anyway.

At the other end, LJL should have had two penalties in a minute not far from the end! He was firstly tripped in the box, then a few minutes later was clearly shoved in the back by their defender as he took that shot which brought out an excellent save from their keeper.

ermmm...because the referee hadnt blown his whistle for obstruction so Macca's shove was in play perhaps?

But the ref hadn't penalised the forward for anything and Macca fouled him. Pen by the letter of the law surely?

yes ! correct in what you are all saying,a free kick should have been given to Town for an obstruction but the ref hadn't blown up for it so in actual fact the game was still in progress and Macca was stupid to push their player like that before a free kick is given ,some refs would have given a penalty for that.How many times have we all been told to play to the whistle.

But the shove happened because of the obstruction. He hadn't had chance to blow as they happened together.

The referee was not obligated to blow his whistle. After the push he just calmly intervened, separated all of the players and explained his decision having had the chance to take it all in.
Decision: Free kick to Grimsby for obstruction of the keeper. Hence Macca restarted play from a dead ball instead of from his hands

[quote=43]I thought McKeown was daft to shove their player. Even though he was being obstructed, it was a risky move and you don't want to give the referees a reason to make a decision if you don't need to. Thought Disley could have been penalised near the death as well, but probably just outside the box and the ref didn't give it anyway.

Agree with you, with some of the awful decisions we've had go against us why take the risk & give the referee the opportunity to give a penalty. Fortunately for us this was one of the better refereeing performances

Quoted from MeanwoodMariner

But the shove happened because of the obstruction. He hadn't had chance to blow as they happened together.

Sorry.can't agree with that,he was obstructing Macca for a good few seconds before being pushed. The ref should have blown sooner .I think he realised this himself and thats most likely the reason he didn't award a penalty. Just my opinion though.

Anyway half time 2-1 to the Mariners,We can do this.Roll on sunday . UTM.

Quoted from Grimal

Sorry.can't agree with that,he was obstructing Macca for a good few seconds before being pushed. The ref should have blown sooner .I think he realised this himself and thats most likely the reason he didn't award a penalty. Just my opinion though.

No, I agree the obstruction was already in progress but if Macca had managed to get his kick away cleanly then he could have just played on. When the collision occurred he had no choice but to make a decision.

Who cares? Play offs hinge on moments like that. Last year we had a player sent off for nowt and the year before Newport scored at BP for a wrongly given free kick. Some you win, some you lose.

Law 12 :-

An indirect free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if, in the opinion of
the referee, a player:

• plays in a dangerous manner

• impedes the progress of an opponent

• prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands

• commits any other offence, not previously mentioned in Law 12, for which
play is stopped to caution or send off a player

The indirect free kick is taken from the place where the offence occurred.

I would add that their manager is a complete tool.

I thought it was a pen for them,

BUT

My grandson informed me  in todays game you should allow the keeper to play the ball,

So the ref was right  in given us a free kick

The game has changed since I played.

I though it was stupid of McKeown but ultimately the decision that was made was correct.

The referee should have blown for a free kick to Town for obstruction - but he didn't - causing himself a problem, when McKeown took the law in to his own hands - but the ref then picked the ball up and slyly (in the end) gave us a free kick (long after he should have given it in the first place) and getting himself off the hook with his assessor.

Quoted from grimsby pete

I thought it was a pen for them,

BUT

My grandson informed me  in todays game you should allow the keeper to play the ball,

So the ref was right  in given us a free kick

The game has changed since I played.

I'm sure this rule was brought in many years ago.

I remember being threatened with a booking when I did just what their player did today and that was donkeys years ago.

Just like to say that the word Obstruction' was removed from the Laws at least 8 years ago!  
UTMM

Most blatant penny ever was when one of our players was pushed over (two hands in the back near the penalty spot (couldn't see who but could see the blue arms push him.)

As mentions nee no free kick had been given despite the 1st offence. Idiocy of Macca to push him over.

Quoted from Doctor Sanchez

I thought the ref was the best I can remember seeing since we've been in the conference.  

Certainly sounded like it given JT's compliments during the broadcast on radio - and JT was the most upbeat I have heard him in a while. Alan connel wasn't bad as a knowledgeable co commentator either.

WE Won!! UTM

Reason was being a twit, no doubt about it. Macca probably shouldn't have pushed him but I can understand why he did, as he did attempt to move round him to take the shot and Reason would not back off. And why did Reason fall over from a shove if only to look to make it worse than it was? Prat.

Credit to the ref last night. One of the best I've seen in years refereeing a town game. Weighed up every challenge fairly, no drama at all and made plenty of reasonable decisions. Eastleigh fans didn't seem to agree as I did hear a 'The referee's a w*nker' chant on one occasion. No complaints from me though.

The law which states a player cannot impede a goalkeeper releasing the ball was in fashion when I was refereeing. I stopped reffing about 7 years ago... the referee  ( I assume ) didnt blow because he thought the player was only trying to wind Macca up and would eventually let him release the ball.  But the player was a knob-end and didnt . A lesser referee would have given a penalty , but fortunately this one had his mind and eye on what went on and gave the correct decision , very good refereeing. It is dangerous play because the keeper could  a) hurt himself with his kick follow thru on the player , or b) damage the player thru no fault of his own...  good refereeing and nice to see for a change.

Note to Macca :  be careful next time... we might have Joyce.....  

Quoted from gary_elton

The law which states a player cannot impede a goalkeeper releasing the ball was in fashion when I was refereeing. I stopped reffing about 7 years ago... the referee  ( I assume ) didnt blow because he thought the player was only trying to wind Macca up and would eventually let him release the ball.  But the player was a knob-end and didnt . A lesser referee would have given a penalty , but fortunately this one had his mind and eye on what went on and gave the correct decision , very good refereeing. It is dangerous play because the keeper could  a) hurt himself with his kick follow thru on the player , or b) damage the player thru no fault of his own...[  good refereeing and nice to see for a change.

exactly the points we made watching it; don't want our keeper injured in an incident like that; next time maybe he should throw it away rather than push the opponent though....

Was there last night and honestly can't get my head around why there's such an issue about this. It was a nothing incident, I don't think anyone in the ground even considered it being a foul - bar the divvies holding the microphones, clearly. Macca barely even touched the diving illegitimate.

Bizarre situation.

Just seen the incident on YouTube. Oh dear. Absolutely embarassing to see people thinking that was a penalty. Are people actually *that* stupid?

Quoted from ska face

Just seen the incident on YouTube. Oh dear. Absolutely embarassing to see people thinking that was a penalty. Are people actually *that* stupid?

Haha, I wouldn't go as far as calling them stupid but I'm in complete agreement with you that it was a nothing incident. I never gave it another thought until their manager started talking conspiracy theories about the top 3.

Quoted from ska face

Just seen the incident on YouTube. Oh dear. Absolutely embarassing to see people thinking that was a penalty. Are people actually *that* stupid?

On BT Sport, Mark Creighton, Danny Higginbottom and that Clem tool discussed it at half-time and full-time and were all in total agreement that it was a nailed on penalty. So yes they are that stupid.

The BT pundits and that idiot Clem just like to try to make it controversial.  It was nothing and although the ref took his time he got it right.  The only major things he missed in the game were the 2 fouls on LJL in the box which both could have resulted in penalties and the blatant elbow in Disley's neck which should have been a red card, otherwise a decent performance from the ref.

It would have been an awful and severely stupid call to make. These decisions always set precedents,we'd have keepers being blocked by forwards who throw themselves to the ground at the slightest touch. A good ref for me is one who makes the calls in the spirit of the game when required. Blocking the keeper and thus holding up the game is a big negative for the game.
Stupid pundits.

The day that's given as a penalty the game dies in my eyes.

Correct decision by the referee, couldn't care less what some bald blokes who like the sound of their own voice think.  

The push on Lenny when he had that chance saved after the 2nd goal was a bigger shout, their defender pushed him the split second he got the shot off..........  

The trip on LJL in the area as he turned last night was nailed on penalty.

The referee should have blown for a foul on McKeown. Because he didn't it does suggest he thought their player was doing nothing wrong. He then gets pushed to the ground (having "done nothing wrong") so I can see an argument for saying the ref cocked it up.

As an aside McKeown was an absolute idiot for pushing him like that.

Quoted from psgmariner

The referee should have blown for a foul on McKeown. Because he didn't it does suggest he thought their player was doing nothing wrong. He then gets pushed to the ground (having "done nothing wrong") so I can see an argument for saying the ref cocked it up.

As an aside McKeown was an absolute idiot for pushing him like that.

Agree with all this. It was a free kick to Town and their player should have been booked for deliberately and repeatedly getting in the way of McKeown. It would have been a travesty of a decision to give a penalty however, if you do something daft like that you invite the ref to make that awful decision and we all know that a lot of refs in this division love to be the centre of attention.

You can't really tell from the duff camera angle, but there really wasn't anything close to enough force to have sent the bloke sprawling to the floor in the way that he did. I've seen people going on about McKeown "raising his arms in arms in an aggressive manner" - do me a favour.

Eastleigh were a bunch of diving illegitimates and I'd be ashamed to see town players acting like they were.

Any input from Clem really isn't worth commenting on.