FAO   Paul Hurst

You are a true fan male private

Criticism is a perfectly valid option. Personal abuse isn't as I'm sure we'd all agree. I've rarely seen any on this board. I think claims of outrageous personal abuse are blown out of all proportion. There's very little evidence of malicious abuse on here. Heartfelt angst and criticism yes. Plenty. Personal abuse, not much.

Quoted from Jaws

The fans should be entitled to think.say whatever they want. It's the fans that have ploughed money into this club for decades, not Hurst.

Under Hurst the club has never made any money or progressed. It's us fans that pay his wages and keep some revenue still going to the club.

We'll still be here in 10 years (if the club is), no matter how well he does I can guarantee he won't be.

Let me clarify my points, as it has been received in the wrong context I feel.

The fans should be entitled to think/say whatever they want - by this I meant criticism of tactics, player selection, formation, statements. At no point did I mean abuse or defamation of character of anyone related to the club. Relating to the Tesco example, yes you should be entitled to complain and say what you think of a poor product, but this doesn't entitle you to swear, throw alleged item at a shop-worker.

We shouldn't be calling Hurst/anyone related with the club a clown, useless or any other insult but we are entitled to disagree with his way of thinking or decisions made. Also remember that working in a public facing job when 3,000 people pay to see your work that it should be open to positive/negative criticism. I'm sure we all had our views on the budget, given that it's our taxes and I'm sure people make posts criticising/praising Osbourne. Well I've paid towards the upkeep of my club and I should be allowed my view on decisions made by the club (of which Hurst is a highly visible represenittive)

Regarding the he won't be here in 10 years comment. This wasn't a dig, generally anyone at a club doing well for a few seasons will be poached by someone above for more money ala Slade. If we got up to the Championship in consecutive seasons with this squad and manager, they'd all be poached. Another example is Bennett.

I have been busy and have only just read the posts, I hope this clear things up.

Quoted from Teestogreen

You are a true fan male private

Why  male private?

Criticise me as much as anyone else but cut the personal abuse!

Quoted from DickBarton

Why  male private?

Criticise me as much as anyone else but cut the personal abuse!

Bloody swear filter , to say male private without it coming out as male private,

You have to say  Di ck  

Quoted from grimsby pete

Bloody swear filter , to say male private without it coming out as male private,

You have to say  Di ck  

Why the personal abuse my friend?

Quoted from arryarryarry

Respect is a two way street, treat your customers like crap, then don't complain when they bite back.

And visa versa !

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Criticism is a perfectly valid option. Personal abuse isn't as I'm sure we'd all agree. I've rarely seen any on this board. I think claims of outrageous personal abuse are blown out of all proportion. There's very little evidence of malicious abuse on here. Heartfelt angst and criticism yes. Plenty. Personal abuse, not much.

I'm amazed you haven't seen much evidence of malicious abuse on here because I certainly have! I have seen fans being accused of  "being up JF's bottom " because they have agreed with something he has said. PH has been called clueless, a clown and many other derogatory things. That is personal abuse and could be interpreted as malicious.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Bloody swear filter , to say male private without it coming out as male private,

You have to say  Di ck  

There is no personal abuse male private. male private is your name. if you have a swear filter on it displays male private as male private.......jesus, and to think you're in charge of our future.

Quoted from rancido

I'm amazed you haven't seen much evidence of malicious abuse on here because I certainly have! I have seen fans being accused of  "being up JF's bottom " because they have agreed with something he has said. PH has been called clueless, a clown and many other derogatory things. That is personal abuse and could be interpreted as malicious.

I said there's very little personal abuse. Not that there isn't any.

I think that the amount of abuse has been blown out of proportion - both volume and degree. It's not that bad and it is a football message board so there's going to be a lot of "rough and ready" language. Some of that language is probably over the top and some....well has a degree of justification if a little robust. A lot of it is heat of the moment stuff and not malicious attacks. I suspect some of it reflects frustration built up over the week in "real life" when folk cannot give full vent t their feelings, so it should be taken with a pinch of salt. Football has been a pressure valve like this for generations - people show their emotions more extravagantly than they might do in other areas of life. If it becomes another area where people are afraid to show their emotions then they'll drift away.

Different people will draw the line of acceptability in different places. If Paul Hurst or anyone else is upset by what people write on here they can take it up with the poster. I doubt he reads it.

There's been plenty of criticism on the other hand.