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Lambretta Mariner
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What are peoples views on faking injury?  

In the first half their forward loses a 50/50 and goes down injured needing treatment.  The ref plays on a short while then stops the game when we have the ball. I was fuming. He didn't need any treatment at all.

In the second half the ball goes in our box, Mckeown chases it, makes an attempt at diving for it, gets nowhere near and rolls around injured. Is he injured or is he embarrassed? I know which one i think it was.

Is it right? Do your views change depending on if it's for your team or against?
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What are peoples views on faking injury?  

In the first half their forward loses a 50/50 and goes down injured needing treatment.  The ref plays on a short while then stops the game.game when we have the ball. I was fuming. He didn't need any treatment at all.

In the second half the ball goes in our box, Mckeown chases it, makes an attempt at diving for it, gets nowhere near and rolls around injured. Is he injured or is he embarrassed? I know which one i think it was.

Is it right? Do your views change depending on if it's for your team or against?


You missed their forward who yelped and went down holding his head second half as well.  I personally would be ashamed to scream out in pain if i was hurt while playing football, to me you dont show your opponent you are hurt even if you are...man up, make them think...fvck me he is hard, i gave him one there and he didnt flinch....no screaming  like a b1tch and rolling around the floor before hopping up and sprinting full pelt 30 seconds later.


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I think it's a disgrace when, as you describe, a player is down injured and his team plays on, then they lose the ball and the ref stops play! It seems to happen quite regularly and I have no idea why.

What's frustrating is that everyone reacts differently when it is a genuine injury. Both teams show genuine concern and call for treatment immediately. It's quite nice to see in a way that players can overcome their bitter rivalry to help a stricken opponent. The flip side of that is that it means they know all the other injuries are not serious, yet they still demand that the ball is put out of play, and we have to sit through the nonsense of someone getting treatment for 20 seconds, hobbling off to the side of the pitch with an anguished expression - then sprinting back on fresh as a daisy. Really winds me up and as a football fan I find it embarrassing when you see what rugby players go through for example.
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JT on RH said Mckeown kicked a divot out of the ground and had ankle trouble...

I'm presuming that's the incident you're talking about about so perhaps you missed something...??


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Crazy. I was always a player who didn't want to show pain/injury. Seems like the embarrassment doesn't matter anymore.
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Quoted from gary_elton
JT on RH said Mckeown kicked a divot out of the ground and had ankle trouble...

I'm presuming that's the incident you're talking about about so perhaps you missed something...??


Yes JT must be right. Hence the medical treatment Mckeown didnt receive.

Not really talking of those two incidents. Was more referring to the fact fans get behind their own players faking injury but get disgruntled at opposition teams doing it.
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The Spanish started all this crap many years ago. If Barcelona are losing they go to plan b and go down like they have been shot to get players sent off.


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Yes JT must be right. Hence the medical treatment Mckeown didnt receive.

Not really talking of those two incidents. Was more referring to the fact fans get behind their own players faking injury but get disgruntled at opposition teams doing it.


I am not sure we do do we? or am i just being biased and rose tinted?
Tonight for instance...LJL went down with a slight nudge and the crowd groaned at him for going down for nothing, no screaming for a free kick or calling the ref, Disley the other season took a massive dive and got booked, the crowd werent impressed and he later stated it was a bit embarrassing for him.
Really cant think of a current player or many in the past TBH that were guilty of it...maybe Brodie....but he doesnt count as he is a wa...oh hang on...just checking....w@nker...all right now...w@nker....yes....he is a w@nker anyway so doesnt count


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You missed their forward who yelped and went down holding his head second half as well.  I personally would be ashamed to scream out in pain if i was hurt while playing football, to me you dont show your opponent you are hurt even if you are...man up, make them think...fvck me he is hard, i gave him one there and he didnt flinch....no screaming  like a b1tch and rolling around the floor before hopping up and sprinting full pelt 30 seconds later.

Tough-tackling midfielder who I used to play with had his nipple ripped in half by his piercing in the first half of a game and didn't let anyone know until we were getting changed. When asked if it hurt he said it was agony but he wasn't going to let anyone know. Hard little fornicator.


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Tough-tackling midfielder who I used to play with had his nipple ripped in half by his piercing in the first half of a game and didn't let anyone know until we were getting changed. When asked if it hurt he said it was agony but he wasn't going to let anyone know. Hard little fornicator.


What the hell is he doing with a nipple piercing?!
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Regarding McKeown going down after his bizarre tumble (why was he chasing after the ball when Robertson was going to get it?), there was a large divot left in the pitch so I was initially worried that he'd caught his knee and done some damage. Luckily, the referee saw him laying with his head in his hands and must have assumed there was a head injury involved.

Thankfully, McKeown's erratic behaviour on a couple of occasions last night didn't cost us. I can only assume he was desperate to get involved as he barely touched the ball other than punting it upfield!
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What the hell is he doing with a nipple piercing?!


Yeah...should have had clip-ons  
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What the hell is he doing with a nipple piercing?!


That was only one of a number of deviant tendancies he had, but no one dare take the urine


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Must say that scream was embarrassing must have been heard all round the ground as did the shout of "Keep going" by there defender much to the amusement of the crowd lol. First half Jack Mackreth kept chatting the lines women up. Second half she missed an obvious foul at the back and Pearson let her know in no uncertain fashion lol. Good job the ref was miles away otherwise Shaun  would have been in big trouble.Anyone else hear it made me laugh lol
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Regarding McKeown going down after his bizarre tumble (why was he chasing after the ball when Robertson was going to get it?), there was a large divot left in the pitch so I was initially worried that he'd caught his knee and done some damage. Luckily, the referee saw him laying with his head in his hands and must have assumed there was a head injury involved.

Thankfully, McKeown's erratic behaviour on a couple of occasions last night didn't cost us. I can only assume he was desperate to get involved as he barely touched the ball other than punting it upfield!


Ok I have been watching football for years now and I will admit to my ignorance to some of the rules of the game, when a keeper gets hurt and requires treatment apparently he does not have to leave the field of play to be waved back on again like outfield players do.
But what if he requires stitches in the dressing room and an outfield player dons the jersey, would it be in the rules for him to go back in goal again or would he have to continue as an outfield player
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Ok I have been watching football for years now and I will admit to my ignorance to some of the rules of the game, when a keeper gets hurt and requires treatment apparently he does not have to leave the field of play to be waved back on again like outfield players do.
But what if he requires stitches in the dressing room and an outfield player dons the jersey, would it be in the rules for him to go back in goal again or would he have to continue as an outfield player


He could go back in goal once he returns to the field
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He could go back in goal once he returns to the field


Ah! thanks, never seen it happen in real time though
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Anyone who fakes an injury can't please their partner in bed.


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World football should introduce a 2 minute ruling, any player who claims injury should, after rolling about clutching his face/leg/shin etc, when having left the field be subjected to a minimum 2 minute medical assessment, to prove they are able to return to the field of play safely. Any oppo player who was judged to have caused said injury, intentionally, and cautioned/warned as a result, should leave the field of play for the same amount of time as the injured player or until a replacement is subbed.

Stop the diving/rolling/embarassing faking by punishing the player and his team.


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World football should introduce a 2 minute ruling, any player who claims injury should, after rolling about clutching his face/leg/shin etc, when having left the field be subjected to a minimum 2 minute medical assessment, to prove they are able to return to the field of play safely. Any oppo player who was judged to have caused said injury, intentionally, and cautioned/warned as a result, should leave the field of play for the same amount of time as the injured player or until a replacement is subbed.

Stop the diving/rolling/embarassing faking by punishing the player and his team.



I suggested on here some time ago that if a player needs medical attention ie the physio comes on the pitch to attend to him then that player , once on his feet , should go off the pitch for 5 minutes to allow complete recovery from the injury. I don't think that sending a player off for the same period of time for causing an injury should be introduced as it wouldn't discourage feigning injury. What happens if it is an accidental clash? The act of feigning injury must be discouraged and the only way is to punish the player using his absence of the pitch. This in turn will introduce pressure from team mates and managers to discourage this cheating practice.


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I suggested on here some time ago that if a player needs medical attention ie the physio comes on the pitch to attend to him then that player , once on his feet , should go off the pitch for 5 minutes to allow complete recovery from the injury. I don't think that sending a player off for the same period of time for causing an injury should be introduced as it wouldn't discourage feigning injury. What happens if it is an accidental clash? The act of feigning injury must be discouraged and the only way is to punish the player using his absence of the pitch. This in turn will introduce pressure from team mates and managers to discourage this cheating practice.


Double edged sword though, my point was, if the official deems the oppo player has intentionally caused the injury and either been spoken to or cautioned, then they should leave the pitch for the same time so not to dis-advantage the other team, if not, what is to stop a player from intentionally/professionally giving a player a little knock so they end up off the field of play for 5 mins.


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Double edged sword though, my point was, if the official deems the oppo player has intentionally caused the injury and either been spoken to or cautioned, then they should leave the pitch for the same time so not to dis-advantage the other team, if not, what is to stop a player from intentionally/professionally giving a player a little knock so they end up off the field of play for 5 mins.


But surely a player wouldn't go down for a little knock knowing he could miss 5 mins game time. As for intentionally/professionally knocking a player then surely that is what yellow and red cards are for?


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Nice in theory but it could encourage honest players to make a genuine injury worse by playing on.

My issue is that players will kick the ball into touch when they see an opposition player hurt. Sometimes the referee makes the call. Within two minutes that 'injured' player is running around like nothing happened.

I say don't kick the ball out unless it's for a teammate, or the opposition player is obviously hurt.


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Nice in theory but it could encourage honest players to make a genuine injury worse by playing on.

My issue is that players will kick the ball into touch when they see an opposition player hurt. Sometimes the referee makes the call. Within two minutes that 'injured' player is running around like nothing happened.

I say don't kick the ball out unless it's for a teammate, or the opposition player is obviously hurt.



But you only have to send the player off for 5 mins if the physio is involved, therefore minor knocks could be run off. It's not as if the physio does major surgery on a player when he comes on anyway.


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They should all take a leaf from Madonna's book. When she went down (pardon me) she got straight back up and performed to her best  


Got to say though Madonna is old school....now if that had been Lady Gaga she might still be rolling around on the floor today
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