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jock dock tower |
February 21, 2015, 10:35am |
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If we stay at Blundell Park we'll become insolvent.
But why? It can only be because of the financial strictures we are currently working under the existing boardroom regime. Or am I genuinely missing something? I think you'll find that there are some politicians who have considerable knowledge about their field of excellence, as well - of course - as the careerist fly by nights who see becoming an MP as a lucrative first step on a career in the city making gazillions out of the links they made at Westminster, especially if they were ministers. If you go down the slippery road of thinking all politicians are the same then you might as well give up the right to vote.....
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chaos33 |
February 21, 2015, 10:59am |
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I didn't say all politicians are the same. I said they should know something about the issues they remark publicly upon. The Green Party candidate is talking about putting shops on allotments FFS.
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HackneyHaddock |
February 21, 2015, 11:18am |
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Suggestions we can stay at BP just fly in the face of modern football economics. BP is decrepit and prohibitively expensive to redevelop now. It gives the club next to no non-matchday income and is poorly set up to maximise non-ticket revenue on match days too.
If Grimsby is to grow and prosper, it needs more industry, more housing and therefore more community amenities. The current BP set up fails to address any of these factors whilst a new ground might at least go some way to doing that. Now of course, we can all think of locations that might be better for a new ground in an ideal world. However, the club has explored these options and PP is now the only viable option after the council reneged on its support for Great Coates. If the club is to survive, it's the ONLY option.
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chaos33 |
February 21, 2015, 12:34pm |
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Precisely.
I'm sorry, I thought these facts were well established and widely understood, having been discussed many times in various media outlets, including on here. I didn't realise that there were some people who still say 'remain at BP and develop it'.
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horsforthmariner |
February 21, 2015, 1:01pm |
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The Greens are basically anti business and frankly a bunch of loons so her view is not surprising
In essence though MPs aren't actually important it's Councillors that make the decision.
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WOZOFGRIMSBY |
February 21, 2015, 2:28pm |
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Politics is politics at the end if the day. You don't have your own opinion, you are basically trying to appease every single voter. The day when there is a yes/no questionnaire (black and white) for the politicians is the day you get answers instead of, 'it's not a yes or no answer' from the politician.
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Mrs Doyle |
February 21, 2015, 2:35pm |
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The Greens are basically anti business and frankly a bunch of loons so her view is not surprising
In essence though MPs aren't actually important it's Councillors that make the decision.
So Fenty as a vested interest then lets hope he's made some friends in the council lol
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ginnywings |
February 21, 2015, 3:02pm |
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We can't keep hanging onto the past. We need a new stadium and the town needs new housing stock, so let's get on with it and drag ourselves into the 21st century. There will always be people opposed to anything new, whatever it is. People don't like change but we/they will get used to it in time. BP is a ramshackle bunch of mismatched stands with varying degrees of neglect and poor amenities. It is also in a terrible location. To update it is folly as refurbishment is far more expensive than building from new, so there's no point.
To tie it into a larger scheme of housing development with other amenities such as shops and pubs/restaurants is a sensible approach if we want a new stadium without much if any outlay from ourselves. If land is freed up for developers, they will be falling over themselves to get on board. It just needs the council to get their fingers out and push on.
We are slowly dying at BP.
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realist |
February 21, 2015, 3:34pm |
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With Hurst as manager we would die at any ground. I live on Scartho top, after all these years its not even half finished.they cant sell the houses. This doesnt support the argument that we must increase the housing stock. Put the new ground here and scrap the houses .Sorted
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WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP |
February 21, 2015, 3:44pm |
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With Hurst as manager we would die at any ground. I live on Scartho top, after all these years its not even half finished.they cant sell the houses. This doesnt support the argument that we must increase the housing stock. Put the new ground here and scrap the houses .Sorted
Think thats more of a problem to do with the overpriced poor quality new houses they build these days though, im renting a danes close house at the minute, and no offence if anyone owns one but the quality of the build is so poor these won't last more than 30 years, and ive had an offer on a house accepted now, and when we was looking at houses, new builds didn't compare to older houses in terms of quality, space and storage, and other factors, and yet this small terraced, 2 up 2 down with a small patio garden would set you back over 100k, coupled with the fact that people can't afford mortgages these days and the rates if you go with the help to buy scheme can be ridiculous
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