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RoboCod
February 9, 2015, 1:31pm
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So when will sky or BT realise  this and start ditching English  football . Could be a good thing as they have ruined it with cash , that  was originally intended to filter down the pyramid  . It just filters into Swiss bank accounts  and tax havens .


I really don't know. I guess the German/French leagues etc will only ever draw in football purists, for want of a better word, those just looking for good football, NOT Ronaldo/Messi/Rooney.
That audience will always remain a tiny fraction against the good old Premier fans/overweight blokes in their 40's with replica shirts and their favouritest players names on their backs type of fan.

Which suits me I suppose, BT sports has footy from all over the globe while Sky constantly overloads the schedule with Premier footy every week until it's watched almost by habit, like women with Eastenders.


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I've been predicting a European league for some time now and think it will happen eventually. The big clubs will get to the point where no one can compete with them and people will tire of the same old clubs ruling the roost. The biggest clubs in Europe will form a European Super League. The Champions League is the pre-cursor IMO and will be expanded again in time.
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The problem behind the whole concept of a European League (in preference to that of the current National League systems), is that the fans simply don't want to see this sort of a change.

Fans want to see their team playing local and national rivals week-in, week-out, not some random team from the other side of Europe however large or prestigious they may be. The money men have probably done their calculations and think how wonderful it would be to see Real Madrid or Inter Milan guaranteed to visit every season, but I think the reality would be that the English fans would lose interest pretty quickly. I just can't see it coming to pass.
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The problem behind the whole concept of a European League (in preference to that of the current National League systems), is that the fans simply don't want to see this sort of a change.

Fans want to see their team playing local and national rivals week-in, week-out, not some random team from the other side of Europe however large or prestigious they may be. The money men have probably done their calculations and think how wonderful it would be to see Real Madrid or Inter Milan guaranteed to visit every season, but I think the reality would be that the English fans would lose interest pretty quickly. I just can't see it coming to pass.


It will happen if the money is right, because that drives all decisions at the top end of football these days.
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If it ever were to happen, I think we would see the creation of more "FC of Manchester" style clubs. What is the point in following a football team if you aren't playing rivals from just up the road from time to time? How many fans have anywhere near the resources available to go to many 'away' matches in other European countries?

A European League goes against the whole British ethos of following a football club and I tend to doubt that things are any different in Germany, Italy, Spain, France etc etc.

Nope, still can't see it happening.
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Agree with Maringer. The European League was mooted about 20 years ago, but the Champions League fills that gap. Can't see why there'd be a demand for anything more.


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Agree with Maringer. The European League was mooted about 20 years ago, but the Champions League fills that gap. Can't see why there'd be a demand for anything more.


It is currently cheaper to fly out to Europe and watch some top European games than it is to watch Arsenal and Chelsea. Many thousands do it every weekend, especially to Germany. Not only are the top clubs in England getting richer but the fan base is too.

There are many articles on the net about how the Prem is alienating the young fan base, which will bite them on the bottom one day. Places like Germany actively encourage the next generation of fans. Money rules here and i'm willing to bet that the Champions league will be expanded at some point. There was hardly a murmur when it went to it's current format.

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It is currently cheaper to fly out to Europe and watch some top European games than it is to watch Arsenal and Chelsea. Many thousands do it every weekend, especially to Germany. Not only are the top clubs in England getting richer but the fan base is too.

There are many articles on the net about how the Prem is alienating the young fan base, which will bite them on the bottom one day. Places like Germany actively encourage the next generation of fans. Money rules here and i'm willing to bet that the Champions league will be expanded at some point. There was hardly a murmur when it went to it's current format.



The Champions League as it is is a good 'product', albeit one already with plenty of dead rubber group games. A bigger version of it would saturate the quality - would that make more money? They quickly got shot of that 2nd group stage about a decade ago, I'm guessing because of a lack of interest? Don't disagree with any of the rest of the post though.

On a side note. the Bundesliga clubs could do with Bayern being banned from the Champions League!


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I watch MOTD and FLS because they're on BBC and it's free. I'll never pay for sky or BT sports. Support your local team.


I have BT and its only a fiver a month at the moment for all programnes ,

I can see  Town when they are on,

BUT

When they start upping the price and Town are back in the league,

I will not bother.


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It is currently cheaper to fly out to Europe and watch some top European games than it is to watch Arsenal and Chelsea. Many thousands do it every weekend, especially to Germany. Not only are the top clubs in England getting richer but the fan base is too.

There are many articles on the net about how the Prem is alienating the young fan base, which will bite them on the bottom one day. Places like Germany actively encourage the next generation of fans. Money rules here and i'm willing to bet that the Champions league will be expanded at some point. There was hardly a murmur when it went to it's current format.



There was an article about this on the BBC a few months back which was an interesting read.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29624410


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