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A sad day all around. If you think back 5 years to the day things don't get any better! That bloody Burton game...
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What odds that we'll have an independent Scotland by 2020? Then we might be stuck with the self-serving elitist male masturbators forever.
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Fooking gobsmacked to be honest. People fell for the Tory bullsh1t, just like they did under Thatcher. My fear was that Ed Milliband was the next Kinnock and that proves to be true. It also seems to me that the country has no stomach for left wing politics. The only time Labour has looked electable was when they had the Thatcher fanboy Blair in charge and moved away from the left. The Labour party could be out of office for a generation now and may not recover at all. There is only the N.East that is a Labour stronghold this morning and unless the Tories monumentally fook up, the next election is already a foregone conclusion IMO. The thought of having to watch that waxy faced illegitimate lying through his teeth for the next 5 years is making me feel sick.
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What odds that we'll have an independent Scotland by 2020? Then we might be stuck with the self-serving elitist male masturbators forever.
That is my fear this morning. The only hope for me now is electoral reform as the way things are going, only the Tories will be able to win in a first past the post system if Scotland is cast adrift.
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What odds that we'll have an independent Scotland by 2020? Then we might be stuck with the self-serving elitist male masturbators forever.
Yep. Think I might leave when I'm qualified in my profession.
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To be fair, most past Labour governments have been elected with a majority even discounting the Scottish seats. It's a bit of a myth that English votes could only return a Tory/coalition government, though with the lock-in of the right-wing media and an acquiescent BBC, this might now be less true.
I wouldn't be too sure about what will happen the next 5 years. It is amusing that full title of the party is the "Conservative and Unionist Party" yet their anti-Scots rhetoric in recent months has meant that the survival of the Union is almost impossible to comprehend. Whether or not this will happen in the next 5 years, it's hard to say but in the longer term this will be a great upheaval.
We're also likely to have a huge amount of economic instability ahead of us. A Greek exit from the Eurozone seems increasingly likely and that will cause a shitstorm around Europe, possibly leading to a collapse of the EU economy which would hit us very badly. Even worse than this, the current momentum with the promised in/out referendum seems likely to lead to a British exit from the EU which, again, will leave us in all sorts of trouble.
It's going to be another turbulent 5 years, that's for sure. The only question is if the media and Tories will somehow manage to pin the blame on the previous Labour government again!
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very very worrying, as a 19 year old, Labour is a party I have common fground with, I don't trust Cameron or any of his posh boy cronies, Bad day for the country
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Bet on a Tory Majority and Lib Dems to get less than 10 MPs so made some money out of this election. I don't think a majority of any party is right for the country when only 36% of voters ticked your box though.
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Unfortunately, I think the ship for a sensible voting system has sailed following the last referendum. I'd be amazed if there was any sort of change in the next 15 years or so.
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Here's an interesting post-election poll by Ashcroft: http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/05/why-did-people-vote-as-they-did-my-post-vote-poll/Searching through the facts there, a lot of people have clearly bought into the Conservative party narrative about the wider economy. Even though it isn't true. Labour shed way too many votes to the Greens and UKIP (and SNP, obviously) whereas the Tory vote held up. Former LibDem voters were all over the place. One thing which hasn't been discussed is the paradox of voter turnout - the people most likely to vote (the wealthy and the old) are those with least at stake, whilst those least likely to vote (young and poor) have the most at stake.
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