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Fenty and Hurst out- you get my vote enough is enough lets get a new heiracy Doug
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Surely the team that turns out wearing Town shirts have to shoulder some of their responsibilities as well as JF - time to man up and show some spirit so us fans can get behind them instead of venting our frustrations because of the constant inept performances
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The way I see it first mistake was never forging ahead with a new stadium any of the times we've been over acheiving in the championship, I know there's always been plans but there was definately an opportunity there and so many clubs have either built new stadiums or expanded since the 1980s, and the ones that haven't, many who previously excelled in 10.000 seaters or less, now languish at lower levels, while there's previously nowhere clubs who have risen and now challenge for trophies or European places in the premiership at times.
But as for our demise to this level, fenty might be the saviour of our club financially on paper, but years of instability and shoestring budgets and hoping for the best, lead to frequent squad rebuildings and a final two year splurge of constant panic signings before we went out of the football league. Now we've FINALLY Learnt those lessons, but we might not be backing the right manager, without having tried the method of employing a lower league promotion specialist, and the transfer policy has improved but the budgets are at their limit now whereas it was CLEAR under alan Buckley that he was given pocket changs, not saying employing him for a third spell was a great idea but I'd have backed him given a reasonable budget to build a good base for a league 2 club and provided stability and something to build from, instead after reaching a cup final and going to Wembley, despite there being a few things clearly lacking in the squad, we provided him with a 33 year old who didn't want to be here. For someone who made his millions by being an ambitious chancer looking for opportunities to build, town under fenty have seemed very unambitious and financially niave, always making cuts and only thinking about today rather than the future. Anyway sorry for the massive rant, don't blAme anyone for not reading
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The way I see it first mistake was never forging ahead with a new stadium any of the times we've been over acheiving in the championship, I know there's always been plans but there was definately an opportunity there and so many clubs have either built new stadiums or expanded since the 1980s, and the ones that haven't, many who previously excelled in 10.000 seaters or less, now languish at lower levels, while there's previously nowhere clubs who have risen and now challenge for trophies or European places in the premiership at times.
But as for our demise to this level, fenty might be the saviour of our club financially on paper, but years of instability and shoestring budgets and hoping for the best, lead to frequent squad rebuildings and a final two year splurge of constant panic signings before we went out of the football league. Now we've FINALLY Learnt those lessons, but we might not be backing the right manager, without having tried the method of employing a lower league promotion specialist, and the transfer policy has improved but the budgets are at their limit now whereas it was CLEAR under alan Buckley that he was given pocket changs, not saying employing him for a third spell was a great idea but I'd have backed him given a reasonable budget to build a good base for a league 2 club and provided stability and something to build from, instead after reaching a cup final and going to Wembley, despite there being a few things clearly lacking in the squad, we provided him with a 33 year old who didn't want to be here. For someone who made his millions by being an ambitious chancer looking for opportunities to build, town under fenty have seemed very unambitious and financially niave, always making cuts and only thinking about today rather than the future. Anyway sorry for the massive rant, don't blAme anyone for not reading
It is rather a long post
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The way I see it first mistake was never forging ahead with a new stadium any of the times we've been over acheiving in the championship, I know there's always been plans but there was definately an opportunity there and so many clubs have either built new stadiums or expanded since the 1980s, and the ones that haven't, many who previously excelled in 10.000 seaters or less, now languish at lower levels, while there's previously nowhere clubs who have risen and now challenge for trophies or European places in the premiership at times.
But as for our demise to this level, fenty might be the saviour of our club financially on paper, but years of instability and shoestring budgets and hoping for the best, lead to frequent squad rebuildings and a final two year splurge of constant panic signings before we went out of the football league. Now we've FINALLY Learnt those lessons, but we might not be backing the right manager, without having tried the method of employing a lower league promotion specialist, and the transfer policy has improved but the budgets are at their limit now whereas it was CLEAR under alan Buckley that he was given pocket changs, not saying employing him for a third spell was a great idea but I'd have backed him given a reasonable budget to build a good base for a league 2 club and provided stability and something to build from, instead after reaching a cup final and going to Wembley, despite there being a few things clearly lacking in the squad, we provided him with a 33 year old who didn't want to be here. For someone who made his millions by being an ambitious chancer looking for opportunities to build, town under fenty have seemed very unambitious and financially niave, always making cuts and only thinking about today rather than the future. Anyway sorry for the massive rant, don't blAme anyone for not reading
It may have been a rant, but it was a good one, and raises an important point about Buckleys third spell. I think Alan was partly at fault for believing his own hype that he could turn any set of players into a formidable machine, but in reality as your post acknowledges, we needed to spend some money to give him a squad to work with. Had we done that, I am sure everything would be different now. I mean, where else could we have possibly got a manager as good as Alan Buckley? A legend in football and so well respected and we gave him Boshell, Clarke and North et al. A disgrace. And he still managed to get us to Wembley against league opposition - none of this non league rubbish!
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Pathetic argument Yeah, I don't want the £3m back which I;ve pumped into the club...and by the way I've really appreciated the dog's abuse I've had on here on many occasions.
Fenty goes...asks for his loans back...club can't pay them..no-on else prepared to put any cash in...club goes into admin...wound up in High Court
Hello, Hereford, Darlington, Rushden
I'm not Fenty's puppy, just someone who does nolt see a viable (or has ever heard of) Plan B and, despite our current position, I'd much rather have a team to support
Woof Woof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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January 13, 2015, 11:26pm |
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Olive branch to which investors? Who are they? where are they?
if they exist fine...lets' get something organised but I genuinely think GTFC is a totally unattractive investment possibility for anyone who has a bit of cash
And I genuinely feel JF has suffered massive abuse on here from many different posters over a long period of time
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It's true that JF's reign has coincided with our fall from grace, and it's debatable whether he has been a contributing cause, or the primary cause of the situation, or if he is - in context - the club's saviour. I always felt that the new ground project is a huge decade-long distraction from getting the team properly fixed, and that his passion about GTFC is often dissipated by poor PR skills.
But - he puts his money where his mouth is, and abusive rants about the guy who, along with we supporters, is keeping the club afloat is a self-defeating thing.
Come up with a credible alternative plan and everyone will listen. Until you have something constructive to say, this kind of lazy commentary doesn't help anyone.
UTM -------------------------------------- You're a big man, but you're out of shape. Me? I do this for a living. Now behave yourself
" it's debatable whether he has been a contributing cause"--No its not. He has well a truly copulated up our football club The only way to come up with a 'credible alternative' is for Fenty to put Town up for sale officially with the books opened to any person/persons interested in buying the club. Fenty apologists are always saying there is no one out there to take the club on but we will never know unless he puts it on the open market.
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Didn't JF take on a club devastated by ITV Digital onits way to disaster .Ive never met the guy but cannot understand the excrement he gets in here after all he's pumped a lot of cash into the club when no one else was willing to step up to the plate. For people thinking Abramovich is waiting in the wings get real , quit moaning like spoilt female dogs and keep the faith as good times will eventually come our way.
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The way I see it first mistake was never forging ahead with a new stadium any of the times we've been over acheiving in the championship, I know there's always been plans but there was definately an opportunity there and so many clubs have either built new stadiums or expanded since the 1980s, and the ones that haven't, many who previously excelled in 10.000 seaters or less, now languish at lower levels, while there's previously nowhere clubs who have risen and now challenge for trophies or European places in the premiership at times.
But as for our demise to this level, fenty might be the saviour of our club financially on paper, but years of instability and shoestring budgets and hoping for the best, lead to frequent squad rebuildings and a final two year splurge of constant panic signings before we went out of the football league. Now we've FINALLY Learnt those lessons, but we might not be backing the right manager, without having tried the method of employing a lower league promotion specialist, and the transfer policy has improved but the budgets are at their limit now whereas it was CLEAR under alan Buckley that he was given pocket changs, not saying employing him for a third spell was a great idea but I'd have backed him given a reasonable budget to build a good base for a league 2 club and provided stability and something to build from, instead after reaching a cup final and going to Wembley, despite there being a few things clearly lacking in the squad, we provided him with a 33 year old who didn't want to be here. For someone who made his millions by being an ambitious chancer looking for opportunities to build, town under fenty have seemed very unambitious and financially niave, always making cuts and only thinking about today rather than the future. Anyway sorry for the massive rant, don't blAme anyone for not reading
Obviously a big difference in running a fish business and an entertainment business.
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