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The difference between this situation and Liam Hearn was that most generally agreed they would've reacted in the same way if thy were in Hearn's position.
Almost as if it was morally right, if legally wrong. Ched Evans massively falls down on both counts....
Pardon my ignorance . What did Hearn do ? Link? UTM
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And Clayton Macdonald did exactly the same as Ched Evans but got away with it and we all cheered his goals didn't we
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And Clayton Macdonald did exactly the same as Ched Evans but got away with it and we all cheered his goals didn't we
The law says that is factually incorrect
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I see that Steve Bruce has added his two penn'orth on this now... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30742947Wonder whether Hullberside will be following this up at all or because it concerns the Tigers, they'll let sleeping dogs lie...
If there is one man in the UK who knows the intricacies of the British criminal justice system and employment law it is surely ex footballer and fat dinner lady Steve Bruce.
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If there is one man in the UK who knows the intricacies of the British criminal justice system and employment law it is surely ex footballer and fat dinner lady Steve Bruce.
Sign him then Steve sign him
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And Clayton Macdonald did exactly the same as Ched Evans but got away with it and we all cheered his goals didn't we
FFS no, Clayton Macdonald did not do exactly the same as Ched Evans. He met the girl two hours earlier and the court ruled he may have reasonably believed the girl consented to sexual activity with him considering the circumstances in which they met and traveled to the hotel together. This explains why Clayton Macdonald wasn't found guilty of rape. Ched Evans sneaked into the hotel and started carrying out sexual activities with a girl who was too drunk to consent while his friends covertly filmed everything through the window. This distinction is why Evans was found guilty of rape. Clayton Macdonald was rather sordid, but didn't do anything unlawful. This is why he 'got away with it'. Ched Evans on the other hand thinks it's totally fine to sneak into a hotel and start having sex with someone who is in no fit state to consent. That is rape, morally reprehensible and why I want him nowhear near our club. I'm frankly disgusted to see that at the time of this post, 240 complete idiots have signed a petition asking gtfc to sign him. I hope their mothers and sisters are happy with them.
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I find it really worrying how many people seem to think that even if he did it it wasn't particularly serious (not as bad as Hughes keeps being trotted out). He is a convicted rapist whatever people think and the whole 'asking for it' line of argument is just revolting. As has been pointed out, he hasn't served his sentence yet either.
I'll pose one for those who think we should sign him. We sign him, he scores the winner in the play off final at Wembley and you go crazy, singing his name etc Would that not make you feel uncomfortable? What about those with daughters? If your daughter asked 'Why do you like that rapist so much?' - what would you tell her?
I see where you are coming from but if you are going to examine the moral fibre of every Town player there is a very long list of people who have done bad things and then gone on to play for us without any of this moral outrage. We have had players with criminal convictions (most recently Gary Croft, Liam Hearn and Scott Neilson) and we have also had players involved in sickening episodes in which they have escaped guilty verdicts (Clayton McDonald and Terrel Forbes spring to mind). I know none of these lot were convicted of rape but all have a questionable past. If you believe Ched should not be allowed another chance how come they were?
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"Employing Evans sends a deeply flawed message. It declares that as long as you are gifted you are untouchable, that being good at football gives you an automatic right to be a footballer. And that we care more about our team winning a match than anything else."
He didnt go to prison then? I must have dreamt that.
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