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psgmariner
January 21, 2015, 4:14pm

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Be careful what you read when it comes to the NHS and stats. I work for this lot and we are still waiting for a correction:

http://www.hscic.gov.uk/article/5298




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January 21, 2015, 8:35pm
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Essentially what's lacking, we all seem to be tacitly concluding, is a healthier dose of socialism.

  • Statutory living wage as the market doesn't provide it for many (and we saw how the arguments against the Minimum Wage disappeared when we saw what happened in practice).
    More university places for professions in short supply
    Better NHS financial support for dentists to discourage them from going private (maybe make them pay more for their training and education, but suspend it unless they leave the country to work abroad)
    More support for nurses wanting to return to practice


We carry on treating the market as God and we'll end up training no one in this country, importing more people when skilled workers are needed, with a bigger underclass of people born here, with more bitterness and hatred as a result. Eventually the Poles get replaced by Bulgarians and Romanians, they'll get replaced in turn by Ukrainians, they'll get replaced....in a race to the lowest common denominator financially speaking. And let's not forget it was the state, i.e. us tax payers, who saved the financial system from the mess the market created.

You don't need to stop immigration if you train your own people, set a basic minimum living standard for all people working.


Really good post...Sums up my feelings exactly.


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January 22, 2015, 9:51am

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Some people who come here fit in well and do a great service to the country and I applaud them,but far too many don't.
I have long held the belief that the ruling elite no matter which party they are in have an agenda to keep unemployment at a high enough level so there is always a pool of people looking for a job?
It helps the ruling elite keep us the workers at heel and subservient to their rule over us.
I think the governments of the day want mass immigration so there is a constant topping up of the pool of the unemployed heaven forbid we have a situation where we the workers have the whip hand.
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January 22, 2015, 6:42pm
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Agree with KM, good post. Personally I think something along these lines would be great http://www.newstatesman.com/po.....-make-britain-fairer but there is no way on earth it would get passed by a Tory government.
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Oddly enough M91, that idea was first proposed as a policy by the LibDems several years ago. And the idea of a single universal benefit is what IDS has been trying to work on for years. The efficiency arguments would help cross-party support.


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