Paul Hurst man management.

Quoted from BIGChris

so it is the managers fault if any player who has a dip in form??

Might just be that their being asked to play a way that's alien to them, and that is down to the manager

Quoted from ackomariner

Might just be that their being asked to play a way that's alien to them, and that is down to the manager

I think you may have a point. I can't think of too many players that start poorly and improve drastically, only the exact opposite. I know they all have jobs to do but they don't look to me like there is any joy in their work. Something isn't right, we'd be irresponsible as fans to bury our heads in the sand and pretend everything will be okay as some on this board seem to think we should be doing.

Quoted from ackomariner

MIGHT just be that their being asked to play a way that's alien to them, and that is down to the manager

Quoted from 75

I think you may have a point. I can't think of too many players that start poorly and improve drastically, only the exact opposite. I know they all have jobs to do but they don't look to me like there is any joy in their work. Something isn't right, we'd be irresponsible as fans to bury our heads in the sand and pretend everything will be okay as some on this board seem to think we should be doing.

Exactly my point, after the first five games I said that he was our best signing for the last ten years, and new footballer( Dave boylen) totally agreed with me, he couldn't praise him enough.

So where's it all going wrong? It's because it's being coached out of them....think defensive 1st 2nd and 3rd
Play to their strengths and with pace

Another over the top thread on the same topic as the previous 10. Sick of reading this drivel since 5 o clock on saturday. Jesus christ we lost a game of football at home, we played excrement. You've had your say now lets move on!! Its getting boring

Quoted from Hagrid

Another over the top thread on the same topic as the previous 10. Sick of reading this drivel since 5 o clock on saturday. Jesus christ we lost a game of football at home, we played excrement. You've had your say now lets move on!! Its getting boring

Yes. Best we should leave further comment until after the Macc game? Or the Lincoln game? Or the Barnet game? When exactly are people allowed to express their views? Tell you what. Let's not say anything nasty until the end of the season eh? To paraphrase Noel Coward, let's not be beastly to the manager.

It may be boring to some but the frustrations and the number of posters/posts on different aspects of the same subject tells its own story.

The idea that an experienced senior professional should be in poor form entirely because of the coaching received over the past 4 months or so is just comical. Lots of the players have been out for brief periods with injuries and haven't come back in anything like decent form so, either they aren't properly fit, or need to buck their ideas up. Either way, it is the responsibility of the players to perform and it just isn't reasonable to blame every bad result on the manager.

Quoted from Maringer

The idea that an experienced senior professional should be in poor form entirely because of the coaching received over the past 4 months or so is just comical. Lots of the players have been out for brief periods with injuries and haven't come back in anything like decent form so, either they aren't properly fit, or need to buck their ideas up. Either way, it is the responsibility of the players to perform and it just isn't reasonable to blame every bad result on the manager.

I did promise myself not to comment on any more of these manager threads but I do think you slightly missed the point on that one Maringer. Not just one player but several players all losing form at the same time? Players with match winning potential sidelined? That smacks of more than just a responsibility on the players to perform don't you think?

Paul Hurst is not a bad manager, he hasn't done horrifically on a good budget he does Ok, as did a lot of previous Luton managers before Still. He just isn't the man to take us further. Who is? I don't know but it will take a John Still or a Justin Edinburgh and PH albeit not inept or a poor manager isn't in their league, and that's just an obvious fact I think..

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I did promise myself not to comment on any more of these manager threads but I do think you slightly missed the point on that one Maringer. Not just one player but several players all losing form at the same time? Players with match winning potential sidelined? That smacks of more than just a responsibility on the players to perform don't you think?

No. If I'm doing shite at my job, it's my responsibility, not that of my manager (if I had one!  )

As for the selections, I'd imagine you're talking about Brown and to some degree Neilson not being picked. Well, I didn't go to Macclesfield, but I do know that I've not seen Brown put in anything like a good performance for months. He is also pretty useless aerially so I can see why Clay was selected instead against a big and physical team.

The simple fact is that on Saturday, the players were the ones who fluffed their lines. Hurst not entirely blameless as I'd have thrown caution to the wind and brought on another attacker for the last 15 minutes or so, but then we might just as easily have conceded another one or two. The injuries meant that we didn't really have too many options for other changes.