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Paris Mariner
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He has been trying to appeal since the verdict was given, the appeal is now being fast tracked I believe. If you had been found guilty of something you believed you had not done, would you show remorse or accept guilt? Football is a short career to put on hold.


Perhaps not, I don't know but the fact of the matter is that he hasn't proven otherwise yet and should pursue that before taking up a privilged postion in society. If he wants to work and rehabilihate at the same time, take a normal job and play Sunday football.


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Perhaps not, I don't know but the fact of the matter is that he hasn't proven otherwise yet and should pursue that before taking up a privilged postion in society. If he wants to work and rehabilihate at the same time, take a normal job and play Sunday football.


Would you call playing (potentially) non-league football a privileged position?
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Would you call playing (potentially) non-league football a privileged position?


For GTFC, yes, because I'd say he'd be earning between £700-1000 per week plus bonuses.



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There were three people in the room. Two said the woman consented, and one can't remember. There has to be reasonable doubt there surely?  


One thing that I find strange is that Evans ' brother and a friend of his were outside the room filming what was going on

Given that the police built a strong enough case to prosecute Evans and get him sent down how come the brother and his accomplice never faced charges as accessories?  

Surely they had a moral responsibility to intervene given what they were witnessing? I could be wrong but by not stopping what was going on means they allowed the situation to go much further than it should have done?
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The media have picked there scapegoat in Evans, Hughes wasn't quite high profile enough for them. Those scumbags in the press won't stop until Evans is sweeping the streets.

You do the time, you deserve a shot at a normal life. Just as their colleagues who got done for tapping up dead schoolgirls mobile phones, I wonder when the media excrement storm is coming when they try and get back into normal life? I'd love to see the back tracking if Evans does have his conviction over turned.
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For GTFC, yes, because I'd say he'd be earning between £700-1000 per week plus bonuses.



That's not that much really. And I'm sure there are other professions that earn that much that don't need DBS checks, so hypothetically if he'd done one of those and gone back to doing it after serving his sentence would you still oppose it? Or do we say you've served your sentence for your crime but we'll punish you for the rest of your life by limiting the amount of money you can earn?
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Football to a footballer is simply a job. A job in which they have some natural ability to earn a living.

I wasnt aware of a law that stated if found guilty and sentenced for a crime upon your release you can longer do a job which you may be quite good at (and in turn earn what to some would be a decent income) but must instead work a menial job for minimum wages for the rest of your life. I'll stand corrected if that law has been passed and i missed it.

He has lost part of his career and will never reach the heights he maybe could have. Thats a further (deserved) punishment along with his loss of freedom he has served.
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For GTFC, yes, because I'd say he'd be earning between £700-1000 per week plus bonuses.



He's only got about 5 years left now hasn't he? Think he's about 26. He's potentially lost millions, in fact probably lost millions as he was a rising star. Let's not forget, Sheff Utd paid £3m for him. Many posters on here will earn £700-£1000 a week plus, it's good money but not that good when you only have 5 years or so left to save a nest egg.
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That's not that much really. And I'm sure there are other professions that earn that much that don't need DBS checks, so hypothetically if he'd done one of those and gone back to doing it after serving his sentence would you still oppose it? Or do we say you've served your sentence for your crime but we'll punish you for the rest of your life by limiting the amount of money you can earn?


If you needed some work doing in your house, were you live with your good looking and fit wife, and your good looking and fit 18 year old daughter who at times throughout the day are home alone, would you (a) employ a known convicted rapist, who is very good at the job you want doing or (b) employ someone who is nearly as good but who hasn't been convicted of rape.

Obviously the wife and daughter are hypothetical, bear in mind though that nearly 40% of high-risk rapists re-offend within 5 years.


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Quoted from pontoonlew
The media have picked there scapegoat in Evans, Hughes wasn't quite high profile enough for them. Those scumbags in the press won't stop until Evans is sweeping the streets.

You do the time, you deserve a shot at a normal life. Just as their colleagues who got done for tapping up dead schoolgirls mobile phones, I wonder when the media excrement storm is coming when they try and get back into normal life? I'd love to see the back tracking if Evans does have his conviction over turned.


Scapegoat? He's a convicted rapist. If Evans conviction is over-turned then he won't be a convicted rapist. Will you be back-tracking if it isn't over-turned?

Again, you'd have  no problem if he was convicted of child sex offences?
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