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[url]http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/hartlepool-manager-ronnie-moore-says-he-wants-to-sign-convicted-rapist-ched-evans-9937915.html[/url]
At least Ronnie Moore does. Don't know if he'll get the support of fans or directors for it.
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They're going to get relegated. People's principles go out the window.
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December 21, 2014, 7:41am |
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We want promotion and I don't care how we do it. Sign Ched, I believe he's innocent anyway.
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he isnt innocent ...................
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When your club is staring down on relegation to the abyss and you have the opportunity to sign a player that could keep you up people's minds will change.
Let's face it, we've all worked with people we can't stand but we know they can do their job. You don't have to like them...
The debate about Evans will rumble on, there's a whole wealth on stuff about his 'innocence' and vice versa. Lets face it, if the money men and Jessie Ennis' publicist hadn't said anything at Sheff utd he'd be playing for them by now...
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75 |
December 21, 2014, 9:43am |
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Is Ched Evans better than Ross Hannah?
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December 21, 2014, 9:46am |
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Is Ched Evans better than Ross Hannah?
At what?
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December 21, 2014, 9:55am |
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he isnt innocent ...................
Here here Post of the season Mr Fleabag UTM Rich
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Clearly what's going to happen is that Hartlepool will announce on Christmas Eve that they've signed him which will make it hard for anyone to campaign against it as it's Christmas. He'll start scoring for Hartlepool the fans won't give a stuff as he's keeping them in the league.
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December 21, 2014, 12:33pm |
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At what?
Tiddlywinks Garth.
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December 21, 2014, 1:19pm |
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Just seen on the BBC sports website that they won't be going for him after all so that puts that one on the back burner again until some other club shows an interest
I really think he would consider a temporary move to Town. He might not be as expensive as you'd think as he just wants to get playing and a top Conference club could appeal as we are a big fish (pardon the pun) in a small pond. He would be a machine, try and get him until the end of the season and he would score tons at this level, would be a boost to the squad and instil real belief we mean business. Negatives are there would be national interest, it would kick up a storm for a couple of weeks, he won't be 100% fit, his appeal is ongoing and this will be a huge distraction for him timewise and mentally.
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December 21, 2014, 1:24pm |
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I really think he would consider a temporary move to Town. He might not be as expensive as you'd think as he just wants to get playing and a top Conference club could appeal as we are a big fish (pardon the pun) in a small pond. He would be a machine, try and get him until the end of the season and he would score tons at this level, would be a boost to the squad and instil real belief we mean business.
Negatives are there would be national interest, it would kick up a storm for a couple of weeks, he won't be 100% fit, his appeal is ongoing and this will be a huge distraction for him timewise and mentally.
He would also be a distraction to the squad and the club. I'm all in favour of us getting a new striker but this would be plain barmy for us or any club just now. He might score a few goals but he could do more harm than good to the morale of the team. I see on the BBC news this lunchtime that Hartlepool have now denied any interest too. Sensible.
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December 21, 2014, 1:48pm |
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He would also be a distraction to the squad and the club. I'm all in favour of us getting a new striker but this would be plain barmy for us or any club just now. He might score a few goals but he could do more harm than good to the morale of the team.
I see on the BBC news this lunchtime that Hartlepool have now denied any interest too. Sensible.
You won't get a player like that without baggage at this level. He is a Championship striker at least, the way his career was going I would have expected him to be a Premier League player by now. Personally, I don't think we are good enough to win this league as we won't score enough goals, we will make the play offs at a canter and probably fail. I say roll the dice by signing a top class striker such as Evans and try and win the title. He'd be the best player in this league and two above. I've realised in life you don't always get what you deserve, look at club stealers MK Dons winning 7-0 the other day. Rotherham are a Championship side with a shiny new ground as they didn't bother paying their bills unlike us as we linger on in the Conference. Morals don't win leagues, players do.
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December 21, 2014, 1:55pm |
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I am sure he would rather go to other clubs rather than Town anyway Vicar, I agree with RRFC it is to big a gamble, if Pitman can stay fit him and Lewis are more than capable (as a paring) but the question is can Pitman stay fit? Hope so mate!
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December 21, 2014, 1:57pm |
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I am sure he would rather go to other clubs rather than Town anyway Vicar, I agree with RRFC it is to big a gamble, if Pitman can stay fit him and Lewis are more than capable (as a paring) but the question is can Pitman stay fit? Hope so mate!
You're probably right but I reckon the first club that puts their neck on the line knowing they will be creating a shitstorm will be considered. Why not us?
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I really think he would consider a temporary move to Town. He might not be as expensive as you'd think as he just wants to get playing and a top Conference club could appeal as we are a big fish (pardon the pun) in a small pond. He would be a machine, try and get him until the end of the season and he would score tons at this level, would be a boost to the squad and instil real belief we mean business.
Negatives are there would be national interest, it would kick up a storm for a couple of weeks, he won't be 100% fit, his appeal is ongoing and this will be a huge distraction for him timewise and mentally.
Regardless of how our fans feel about it, just imagine the abuse he would get at away matches? You only have to see the abuse Lee Hughes gets and that is 5? years after him resuming playing football again. It would have such a detrimental effect on the team at away fixtures that it isn't worth the possible advantages he would give us. By all means he should be allowed to play football again but not for us. If he played for another team in our division imagine the reception he would get at BP.
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He will probally get another appeal eventually anyway and aquitted just like Clayton McDonald.
Anyone with loads of money shoudn't have one night stands with drunk up birds, it's not worth the hassle / risk? >> ££££
Saying that, he still did the dirty on his g/f, I can't believe she has actually stood by him regardless of innocent or not, hang on a minute? >> ££££
Someone will eventually sign him anyway and they will be laughing at the end of the day when he's smashing in 20+ goals in any league.
Right or wrong, Lee Hughes got given another chance and he ran away from killing someone in a car accident.
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December 21, 2014, 4:15pm |
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Regardless of how our fans feel about it, just imagine the abuse he would get at away matches? You only have to see the abuse Lee Hughes gets and that is 5? years after him resuming playing football again. It would have such a detrimental effect on the team at away fixtures that it isn't worth the possible advantages he would give us. By all means he should be allowed to play football again but not for us. If he played for another team in our division imagine the reception he would get at BP.
Considering we usually play in front of significantly less than 2,000 fans (some of which, often a decent proportion, are ours) I'm not sure it would make a huge difference. Not advocating signing him btw.
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December 21, 2014, 7:32pm |
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Tiddlywinks Garth.
Ah! see what you mean. nudge nudge
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December 22, 2014, 9:00am |
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He will probally get another appeal eventually anyway and aquitted just like Clayton McDonald.
Anyone with loads of money shoudn't have one night stands with drunk up birds, it's not worth the hassle / risk? >> ££££
Saying that, he still did the dirty on his g/f, I can't believe she has actually stood by him regardless of innocent or not, hang on a minute? >> ££££
Weird how Ched's girlfriends (very rich) father paid for his solicitor.
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Right or wrong, Lee Hughes got given another chance and he ran away from killing someone in a car accident.
This for me is the nub of the matter. Whether you think he Ched did what he was convicted of or not, whether he does or doesn't admit it, he is still out of jail and perfectly entitled to look for a job in the field of his choosing, which is football. The moral question of signing him is one that will not be truly ended, but you see Lee Hughes playing regularly after his release so why not Ched, and why not here?
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This for me is the nub of the matter. Whether you think he Ched did what he was convicted of or not, whether he does or doesn't admit it, he is still out of jail and perfectly entitled to look for a job in the field of his choosing, which is football. The moral question of signing him is one that will not be truly ended, but you see Lee Hughes playing regularly after his release so why not Ched, and why not here?
And there wasn't such a fuss about it when Hughes was released, that bit I can't understand. Are we honestly saying killing someone is more forgivable than having sex with an extremely intoxicated woman? They're both despicable acts so I don't see why one can go back to football relatively commotion free and the other is hounded out the game.
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And there wasn't such a fuss about it when Hughes was released, that bit I can't understand. Are we honestly saying killing someone is more forgivable than having sex with an extremely intoxicated woman? They're both despicable acts so I don't see why one can go back to football relatively commotion free and the other is hounded out the game.
Thats the only way my missus will have sex with me.....
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I really think he would consider a temporary move to Town. He might not be as expensive as you'd think as he just wants to get playing and a top Conference club could appeal as we are a big fish (pardon the pun) in a small pond. He would be a machine, try and get him until the end of the season and he would score tons at this level, would be a boost to the squad and instil real belief we mean business.
Negatives are there would be national interest, it would kick up a storm for a couple of weeks, he won't be 100% fit, his appeal is ongoing and this will be a huge distraction for him timewise and mentally.
Your negatives outweigh anything else I am afraid.
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Considering we usually play in front of significantly less than 2,000 fans (some of which, often a decent proportion, are ours) I'm not sure it would make a huge difference.
Not advocating signing him btw.
Even so , it's amazing how even 400 or 500 fans can be vocally intimidating if they are united in one vitriolic chant.
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Evans hounded away by the media from yet another chance at getting a club. I don't think they'll stop til they have him signing on the bloody dole.
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A question for all. Would you have Evans knowing he will score enough goals to get us certain promotion, OR Would you say no never even though we remain in this league for at least another season. Saying getting promotion without him is not an option in this case. I would give him a 6 month sentence, I mean contract.
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