Hes lost it

After listening to both Hurst and Hill on the radio,

I think Hill has no class whatsoever,

Paul Hurst would never comment on another team or manager like Hill did,

When we go down to play Woking in the away game, I hope Paul takes a recording of Hill's comments,

Plays it to our lads in the changing room,

Then sit and watch our team hammer Woking again.  

Quoted from ginnywings

Why should they "take a long hard look at themselves" as you put it. It's fifth tier football, not jury service. There is no compunction to attend if people are not happy with what, after all, is supposed to be entertainment.

Secondly, i never said it's everyone i speak to, but it's a lot.

Thirdly, i'm not talking about my friends and i don't need to get any new ones thanks. I work in construction and get around a lot. Football is a daily conversation on most sites and lots of people i speak to have stopped going/are not feeling it, for reasons stated.

It seems to be a question of shooting the messenger. I can't make these people stop having these views and attend BP regularly. I'm just saying what i hear on a daily basis.

If you are happy with things, then great.

I can completely understand why people are disappointed with the club based on the past 10-15 years and our huge drop in fortunes since the late 90's and even for some fans the style which was played in the 70's and 80's. But then we have to apply some realism and accept a measure of short termism.

Am I happy that we are in the Conference? No, but I am happy with our current position in the league at present. We are 2nd, fairly well placed for an assault on the title with the playoffs as a (distant) 2nd.

Do I think that the football could more exciting? Almost certainly, but then there's no promise that if we played attacking football we would be in the same position as we are now. There's no promise that playing 442 would have beaten Kiddie - we go only propose that it might have done. What I will say is that Hurst will be picking his team to suit his football knowledge and preferences, which currently are helping us to some generally excellent form - in terms of points.

Does Hurst inspire me? No he doesn't, but then he isn't here to inspire me. I would personally far rather have Hurst as a manager rather than some rent a gob just because he has a 'rapport' with the fans. I will bet you that 99% of fans will be cheering his name if we are promoted at the end of the season.

In the short term, we are were we are because of the work of the current managerial and playing staff. It isnt down to them to bear the brunt of our misgivings towards players like Lawrence, Newey, Butler and Conlon.

Quoted from EY Mariner

"Erm", I would expect people to engage brains and see we're doing pretty well. Obviously, I'm too optimistic for this place.

You're clearly far too optimistic for the 800 odd who couldn't be bothered to turn up on Tuesday.

Quoted from biggles9999

I can completely understand why people are disappointed with the club based on the past 10-15 years and our huge drop in fortunes since the late 90's and even for some fans the style which was played in the 70's and 80's. But then we have to apply some realism and accept a measure of short termism.

Am I happy that we are in the Conference? No, but I am happy with our current position in the league at present. We are 2nd, fairly well placed for an assault on the title with the playoffs as a (distant) 2nd.

Do I think that the football could more exciting? Almost certainly, but then there's no promise that if we played attacking football we would be in the same position as we are now. There's no promise that playing 442 would have beaten Kiddie - we go only propose that it might have done. What I will say is that Hurst will be picking his team to suit his football knowledge and preferences, which currently are helping us to some generally excellent form - in terms of points.

Does Hurst inspire me? No he doesn't, but then he isn't here to inspire me. I would personally far rather have Hurst as a manager rather than some rent a gob just because he has a 'rapport' with the fans. I will bet you that 99% of fans will be cheering his name if we are promoted at the end of the season.

In the short term, we are were we are because of the work of the current managerial and playing staff. It isnt down to them to bear the brunt of our misgivings towards players like Lawrence, Newey, Butler and Conlon.

I think if you asked most fans the day we got relegated that "in the short term" would last at least five seasons I am sure they would have been very unhappy.

As regards the players bearing the brunt, yes some of them were crap but the misgivings should be against the clowns that signed them and the clowns that signed the managers.

Quoted from arryarryarry

I think if you asked most fans the day we got relegated that "in the short term" would last at least five seasons I am sure they would have been very unhappy.

As regards the players bearing the brunt, yes some of them were crap but the misgivings should be against the clowns that signed them and the clowns that signed the managers.

Personally I couldn't have been any more unhappy. That was partly because we'd lost our League status after 100 years but also because having followed the Conference for a few years and seen the lack of ex-league teams quickly returning to the League I didn't have the expectation that our return would be a quick one. Having established that, our continued participation in this league is easier to bear and I can concentrate on doing my bit to try to ensure that the current situation doesn't last much longer-which, after all is all ordinary fans can do.

Quoted from barralad

Personally I couldn't have been any more unhappy. That was partly because we'd lost our League status after 100 years but also because having followed the Conference for a few years and seen the lack of ex-league teams quickly returning to the League I didn't have the expectation that our return would be a quick one. Having established that, our continued participation in this league is easier to bear and I can concentrate on doing my bit to try to ensure that the current situation doesn't last much longer-which, after all is all ordinary fans can do.

I have to admit that some of my criticism of PH and the club in general is caused by relegation and especially by the abject failure of JF to get a decent manager straightaway to get us straight back up while the money was there. As it was we had one of the most clueless first team managers ever and even worse, kept him for far too long. He was a coach, no more than that, not a manager. Not only that he wasted the parachute money which meant that subsequent managers had a harder job. So in that respect PH has done far better than anyone since Newell.

In my mind we are still a big club. We should not be in this league and we certainly should not be crawling our way out of it via 5th place and praying for luck in the play offs no matter what the budget realists tell us. I really would like the manager to say things that reflect this status rather than the downbeat, I know best, let's creep up on the rails, way he approaches the supporters. If he delivers the goods in April I will happily praise him but until then it will take more than a dodgy, aren't we doing well to be in second spot, to convince me.

UTM.  I live in hope!

Quoted from arryarryarry

I think if you asked most fans the day we got relegated that "in the short term" would last at least five seasons I am sure they would have been very unhappy.

As regards the players bearing the brunt, yes some of them were crap but the misgivings should be against the clowns that signed them and the clowns that signed the managers.

By short term I am referring to taking each year/season on it own merits. We are 2nd and with a good chance of being 3 points off the top come Saturday evening.

Yes it could have been us top/level if we had beaten Kidderminster, Dover, Southport etc, but then it could just as easily be us further away if we hadn't beaten Gateshead, Woking or Torquay (a).

Part of football is that you will have bad results, from what I have seen we are very consistent, in the main the players have worked hard and we are extremely difficult to beat. I see very little reason to complain about how things are going THIS season.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I really would like the manager to say things that reflect this status rather than the downbeat, I know best, let's creep up on the rails, way he approaches the supporters.

Paul Hurst is a Yorkshireman. They don't do upbeat.

Quoted from biggles9999

By short term I am referring to taking each year/season on it own merits. We are 2nd and with a good chance of being 3 points off the top come Saturday evening.

Yes it could have been us top/level if we had beaten Kidderminster, Dover, Southport etc, but then it could just as easily be us further away if we hadn't beaten Gateshead, Woking or Torquay (a).

Part of football is that you will have bad results, from what I have seen we are very consistent, in the main the players have worked hard and we are extremely difficult to beat. I see very little reason to complain about how things are going THIS season.

Thing is you probably would have said the same last season when we were top but look where we are, we are still here.

I think after 5 seasons if we don't go up we could be destined to be here for a very long time.

Quoted from Dan

Paul Hurst is a Yorkshireman. They don't do upbeat.

So was Brian Clough.