Show your support Relocation

What about setting up a meeting in a hall were residents and fans can ask questions to JF and the councillors or will this just make matters worse.

Some right toss pots on there!

This area gets thousands of pounds worth of publicity from their football club which benefits every single person that lives here, so it's about time the council repaid over 100 years of freebies. Something the against brigade should remember next time they start wittering.

Quoted from Meza

I'm not being funny John, but I'm starting to run out of steam with this whole stadium malarkey, I so want this to happen there is only so many times I can scream at them about the project.  No matter what we put on that site, the nimbys WILL always oppose with whatever bolloxs they feel like putting.  At the end of the day GTFC has been associated with Great Grimsby since 1878 and if anyone has a say its the bloody club. All these Nimbys saying don't build on greenfield sites, what the hell do they think there house was built on, im sure it was the same back then when the houses were built.

When will you be putting to the council? what stage are we at with the new stadium?

I made the very same point to the "lady" in one of those new build houses behind the Rose and Crown as she ripped up the new stadium leaflet I'd given her in front of my face...

Quoted from moosey_club

A live public debate on Estuary TV......in the green corner De Freitas....In the Black and White Corner  JF.....

In all seriousness that ain't a bad idea. My nephew works for Estuary...

Have the club considered doing any form of community engagement besides asking the Trust to put leaflets through doors?

It wouldn't take a great deal in terms of time and resources (relatively speaking) to hold some kind of open meeting / Q&A sessions in the areas that might be affected. You're asking fans to go out and battle local residents through the medium of internet comments sections with virtually no information, armed with nothing but their fervour and a ridiculously vague vision of what could happen in the area. You can't go on this way - it is not an effective method of engaging with people and, in my opinion, is doing more harm than good as people end up digging their heels further and further in.

Nobody is saying that the club have any answers at the moment, as we're nowhere close to providing specific details, but you need to be listening to the concerns of residents and provide them reassurance that the club does actually care about them and their views. Give residents an outlet to discuss the plans at this broad, initial level and you'll not only find that a lot of the concerns are due to a lack of information, but you may even be shape the development in order to address some of these concerns.

We've heard a lot of rhetoric about this being a "community" stadium, but to what extent are the community actually being consulted on what will be a major development?

Obviously the time for proper consultation will come much further down the line, but communities and residents should be consulted at every single stage of developments like this. I'm sorry, but you can't stick a "community" label on something and then prescribe to people what is good for them.

Developments like this should be used to bring communities together and they have the power to do so if done correctly, but the divisive and (sorry to be frank) childish-finger pointing and namecalling (NIMBYs, moaners, etc.) is completely the wrong way to go about it.

The club likes to paint an image of itself as being at the heart of the community and at the heart of the town - at the moment, there is very little evidence of this and we're being led down a path of seeing ourselves as a separate entity. If the club are serious about getting this thing off the ground, they need to show a bit of humility, accept that some residents do have valid concerns and engage with them.

When the Town won promotion, or beat Spurs in the cup, councillors were queuing up on national TV telling all & sundry what it meant to the area etc etc.

York City council have just agreed to help their club relocate to the tune of £4 million.

Is it really too much to ask our council to assist the club in their application?

Don't forget that football fans have the same right to vote as anyone else, if fans started to lobby their councillors, that would send a powerful message to the politicians.

It cost very little to ask your councillors their views & let them know yours.

Is it too much to ask everyone on here to email their councillors, if not then the new stadium is doomed because of YOUR apathy.

Democracy in action.

I think John Fenty should write to FIFA,

Blatter always seems to get his own way,

John might be able to pick up a tip or two.

Quoted from ska face

Have the club considered doing any form of community engagement besides asking the Trust to put leaflets through doors?

It wouldn't take a great deal in terms of time and resources (relatively speaking) to hold some kind of open meeting / Q&A sessions in the areas that might be affected. You're asking fans to go out and battle local residents through the medium of internet comments sections with virtually no information, armed with nothing but their fervour and a ridiculously vague vision of what could happen in the area. You can't go on this way - it is not an effective method of engaging with people and, in my opinion, is doing more harm than good as people end up digging their heels further and further in.

Nobody is saying that the club have any answers at the moment, as we're nowhere close to providing specific details, but you need to be listening to the concerns of residents and provide them reassurance that the club does actually care about them and their views. Give residents an outlet to discuss the plans at this broad, initial level and you'll not only find that a lot of the concerns are due to a lack of information, but you may even be shape the development in order to address some of these concerns.

We've heard a lot of rhetoric about this being a "community" stadium, but to what extent are the community actually being consulted on what will be a major development?

Obviously the time for proper consultation will come much further down the line, but communities and residents should be consulted at every single stage of developments like this. I'm sorry, but you can't stick a "community" label on something and then prescribe to people what is good for them.

Developments like this should be used to bring communities together and they have the power to do so if done correctly, but the divisive and (sorry to be frank) childish-finger pointing and namecalling (NIMBYs, moaners, etc.) is completely the wrong way to go about it.

The club likes to paint an image of itself as being at the heart of the community and at the heart of the town - at the moment, there is very little evidence of this and we're being led down a path of seeing ourselves as a separate entity. If the club are serious about getting this thing off the ground, they need to show a bit of humility, accept that some residents do have valid concerns and engage with them.

I think your right Ska, there is only so far you can go by throwing the same info in the GET and letting the fans & nimby's agree\disagree without knowing the proper benefits.  By engaging with the public in meeting sort of way you are hearing these nimby's get what concerns them of their chest and by JF explaining to them why its important and the benefit it will make to the town in the long run.  All im seeing is comments about how much JF is tyring to line his pocket from Nimbys and were its best to have the stadium.  I have defended the project from the start but like i said earlier there is only so many times you can comment about the same thing.  JF too might even score some browny points.

i think we can all see that those that dont follow town would rather the stadium be hundred miles down the A180 (out of sight out of mind).  Think of the impact the town would be without GTFC, no prospects for youths being able to get into football via the youth system, meaning they would have to go out of town.  The number of jobs that would be lost etc it just upsets me to the core that they can't see the benefits the project would make.  Was there something about disability (leisure complex) being able to do things they might not have been able to and atleast have something they can enjoy.  The other thing the nimby's seem to be calling is to update BP which WE all know is not possible, to update the main stand say it would mean it would have to be closed, now who is going to replace the income lost from that, them, i dont think so.  Most of their comments dont hold any water and its just a way for them to hit back at the club in anyway they can so the stadium is not in the facinity of their home.

If we are really serious about this we need to engage the public further, not just leaflets (with is a start tbf) but like others have said layout the development plans on Estuary TV or get the media company involved that do those videos or setup a meeting place than can hold a few hundred people and lets have a proper discussion.  i know it will probably end up with them vs us but atleast we can show how passionate we are about the project and how much it means to us, the town and the future generation.

Quoted from barralad

I made the very same point to the "lady" in one of those new build houses behind the Rose and Crown as she ripped up the new stadium leaflet I'd given her in front of my face...

Thats a bit crap mate, you should have made her eat the ripped up leaflet haha