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gaz57
November 14, 2014, 12:42pm

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The problem is our council no matter what colour have always planned for mid table and ended up with relegation for years, and now with central government putting the squeeze on  the council is to busy fighting off the wolves. We need someone with vision and guts to go  that extra mile and not just for a new stadium.
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Same old same old with this.

Bored to my back teeth of explaining why Peaks Parkway is the only real option available and the importance of a vibrant football team to the local community.  

Do I believe Peaks Parkway is the best location?  No.  Can I think of any remotely suitable locations to stop the only community asset in North East Lincolnshire that can attract and engage anything above 1% of the population from dying?  No.

GTFC and North East Lincolnshire needs this stadium.  Peaks Parkway will, in all truth, be a terrible location in terms of access but there is absolutely no other option unless we go well outside the local boundary.  In which case are North Lincolnshire Council, for example, likely to approve planning permission?  Doubt it.

Every day this drags on longer and longer makes the attitude of the council to not fully support the Great Coates Stadium look even more backward.  

It's not just about the stadium though.  As mentioned above, North East Lincolnshire is in an absolutely brilliant position at present to take full advantage of the renewable energy movement and attach itself to the Northern Powerhouse plans....instead it will stay in the 19th century thanks to backwards thinking and NIMBY attitudes.  

What was the last thing built in North East Lincolnshire to the benefit of the local people and the economy?  I can think of the Parkway Cinema ten years ago and then probably Pleasure Island 20+ years ago.  For a borough reliant on tourism and with the economic potential it has, that's absolutely pathetic.
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This can't come soon enough.  After 20 years of obstruction and dithering, the council need to pull their fingers out and just get on with it.

Grimsby could be so much better than it currently is, if only the people running it had some vision.  The North East Lincs area should be a gateway to Europe and the world and should be giving central government the reasons to include it in the "Northern Powerhouse" that they want to run from Liverpool across the country.  Let's aim for a full University in the town, membership of the New Hanseatic League, twinning arrangements with Chinese and Brazilian cities, a renewables hub, a Championship football team, Capital of Culture, and eventually, why not even City status?

If our civic leaders don't even have the vision for this and set as the limit of their development ambitions the installation of new bus shelters and crazy paving slabs, is there any wonder they've prevaricated over something as simple as a new football ground for the last 20 years?






And not forgetting the fancy street lamps that look like they've been clouted by every van that ventures into Victoria street.

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November 14, 2014, 1:42pm

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The problem is our council no matter what colour have always planned for mid table and ended up with relegation for years, and now with central government putting the squeeze on  the council is to busy fighting off the wolves. We need someone with vision and guts to go  that extra mile and not just for a new stadium.



But in the same instance the council can shell out large amounts of money for a botched-up bus hub, a supposedly improved station approach, multi-attempts at up-grading Cleethorpes Leisure Centre and a swimming pool out in the suburbs which is costing far more than up-grading an existing facility which has easier access. The Great Dictator and his cohorts believe that only they are right and anybody with a differing point of view is talking rubbish. It says a lot for the area when " The Marx of The Marsh" can get elected as a councillor!


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November 14, 2014, 3:12pm
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I wonder if it might help if instead of using the 20 year old pencil drawing of the old A180 ground, the club could get a more contemporary impression mocked-up.  If we can't show the people of the town a vision of what we are proposing to build, we will have to expect them to conjure up their own images (especially negative) and project them onto the blank canvas.  Modern computer-aided design packages should easily be able to come up with a set of proposal drawings that we can use to showcase the positive potential of the development.  We could even go to several companies and get them to send in their visions with a view to them pitching for the work if/when it gets the go-ahead?

Are the board able to go to one of the football ground architect practices, to get them to produces some sketches showing a new ground, along with the parking, shops, cycle infrastructure, landscaping, community facilities, leisure, education, allotments and public gardens, so that when we're selling the new ground to councillors and residents, the image they get in their minds is the positive one we have, and not the negative one put into their heads by deFreitas and the antis?
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1994 it said in the telewag the other day, sorry to be precise


I am sure somewhere I have the cutting from the ET when the announcement was made.

I was going to hand it down to my great, great, great, great grandchildren to show them what the ground will look like when it is built.

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November 14, 2014, 4:55pm

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Agree mate and it's been said a thousand times. Can we stop using the prototype drawing that was used for the proposed great Coates site. People will never be turned until they can vision what the area will be like - us supporters included. I for one can't get that awful a180 stadium out of my head but can't wait to see the ideas for the proposed new site


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November 14, 2014, 5:14pm

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This can't come soon enough.  After 20 years of obstruction and dithering, the council need to pull their fingers out and just get on with it.

Grimsby could be so much better than it currently is, if only the people running it had some vision.  The North East Lincs area should be a gateway to Europe and the world and should be giving central government the reasons to include it in the "Northern Powerhouse" that they want to run from Liverpool across the country.  Let's aim for a full University in the town, membership of the New Hanseatic League, twinning arrangements with Chinese and Brazilian cities, a renewables hub, a Championship football team, Capital of Culture, and eventually, why not even City status?

If our civic leaders don't even have the vision for this and set as the limit of their development ambitions the installation of new bus shelters and crazy paving slabs, is there any wonder they've prevaricated over something as simple as a new football ground for the last 20 years?



Bit unfair on the council really,  they've managed to attract SKINT to film here bless em.



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Has the stadium design changed since that picture was drawn?
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Let's go on a demonstration outside the council offices




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