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120797
November 10, 2014, 11:49pm
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Quoted from SamTheMariner
Arnold and Neilson are very natural players to play around Lenny in a 3

Who's playing right side for you ?

Not saying either wouldn't be effective there (I don't know) but IIRC, both have rarely (if at all) played that side this season.
It begs the question what do you mean by "natural" ?

I don't actually think Mackreth is that much quicker than your usual fullback.

Disagree, think he's beaten a fair few as he's "Mr acceleration".

Put it this way...
I've yet to see Arnold OR Neilson "beat a full back" ONCE this season.
If anyone can remember an instance where they have, please say, I'm all ears !

Mackreth "offers something different" (thank god IMO) and as I keep saying works his butt off for the team.
So did Colbeck perhaps.
But for me, there's no comparison between Colbeck and Mackreth when it comes to vision and passing ability.

In general, wingers are always easy targets for criticism anyway.
Because when they're "out the game" few tend to question the service they get.

However I agree with barra that a goal or two wouldn't go amiss...
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120797
November 10, 2014, 11:57pm
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My view is that we still probably don't quite have the necessary pace and running ability in midfield to allow us to play a classical central trio behind three attacking players.

A very good point IMO although perhaps it may also depend who's in midfield.
If it's Pell, Clay and Brown then I'd say maybe we have.
If it's Parslow, Disley + other then guess you're definitely right !
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November 11, 2014, 12:09am

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I'd play Nelson in a five man midfield, sat behind LJL, 4-4-1-1.


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November 11, 2014, 12:22am
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Neilson has a great amount of skill but his application of it is lacking too often.

As has been noted, he cuts inside pretty much every single time he gets the ball. He needs to mix it up a bit when playing as a left-sided player. I realise it is easier to turn in onto your stronger foot, but it makes things much easier for the defence when they have a pretty good idea what you are going to do 99% of the time.

The alternative is that he plays in 'the hole' behind the striker(s) and this would at least give him a bit more room to go either side.

My view is that we still probably don't quite have the necessary pace and running ability in midfield to allow us to play a classical central trio behind three attacking players. This is why our 4-3-3 tends to be more of a 4-5-1 a lot of the time as the two wider men put quite a lot of effort into bolstering the midfield.

As for Mackreth, I have been a little disappointed that he hasn't been quite the threat that we originally hoped. However, you can't fault his workrate and I think he's a decent enough player at this level. Certainly not inferior to Colbeck in most respects (and less likely to pick up stupid red cards!), but he doesn't get into shooting positions very often, that's for sure. Could do with him picking up a few goals this season.


He's missed a fair few one on ones recently though, I just don't think he can finish that well either - I don't remember Colbeck getting in particularly more scoring positions but he was more likely to get one I think.
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November 11, 2014, 6:10am

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Didn't we have this same argument with the form of LJL?? Maybe it's more than just putting a good shift in on a Saturday afternoon?


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November 11, 2014, 7:35am
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He's missed a fair few one on ones recently though, I just don't think he can finish that well either - I don't remember Colbeck getting in particularly more scoring positions but he was more likely to get one I think.


I actually looked at the player stats bit on the OS and that seemed to think he'd only had 5 shots so far this season! A remarkably low number of efforts for an attacking player. I've only been to home games this season but can only recall a couple of sliced efforts (when he should have done better), so don't really know of any one-on-ones missed.

Not sure what his career scoring record is like as Soccerbase appears to be down at the moment, but I'd be surprised if he scores too many.
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November 11, 2014, 7:36am

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We average 1.9 points when Mackreth starts and 1.2 points when Neilson starts

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November 11, 2014, 7:55am

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Not sure why Nielson  has not made the 11 but Mackreth has the most assists with 5.


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IMO Scotty can be guilty of making the wrong decisions many times during the game . Often giving the ball away cheaply when an easy pass would be the better option . When he cuts inside he gets crowded out and tries to beat too many players . However , and it is a Big However , he is a game changer at this level ................So what do you do? I agree with some of the above posts , keep him  behind LJL with Arnold .


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Although I am a big fan of SN and he absolutely ran show at Halifax ( know some fans there and said best player they had seen at Shay for long time). Hurst is getting results without him in the starting 11.
BUT I would play him!!
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