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rancido
October 23, 2014, 7:36pm

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The point is that the more housing developments there are on that part of NE Lincs ( Waltham/New Waltham/HoltonLeClay) then the greater will be the demand for a retail outlet/supermarket in the area ie off the Peaks Parkway.


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The point is that the more housing developments there are on that part of NE Lincs ( Waltham/New Waltham/HoltonLeClay) then the greater will be the demand for a retail outlet/supermarket in the area ie off the Peaks Parkway.


Oh great! So the area has to have houses it doesn't need, in places that are unsuitable, on good quality farmland, filling a developer's pockets, just so a supermarket might possibly think it's worth investing in a retail park that would help to build a new football stadium?

I'm not sure you would get a lot of support for that idea on the south side of town.




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Oh great! So the area has to have houses it doesn't need, in places that are unsuitable, on good quality farmland, filling a developer's pockets, just so a supermarket might possibly think it's worth investing in a retail park that would help to build a new football stadium?

I'm not sure you would get a lot of support for that idea on the south side of town.





I feel you are missing the point. There must be a demand for housing or developers wouldn't risk advancing the cash to build them. Wherever houses are built then inevitably some developers will benefit and that is a fact of life. Whether you agree or not it seems to be a recognised fact that a/ the country needs more housing , especially affordable types and b/ one way to boost the economy is to build more houses. Obviously it is better if brownfield sites are used but it is inevitable that as towns/cities expand then some areas of farmland will get swallowed up. The expansion of suburbs creates the demand for more convenient shopping facilities. If the creation of these shopping facilities makes it easier for us to get a new ground then that is a bonus for us.


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This guy just comes across as a schmuck!

I bet when he drives anywhere it's "ah, I remember when this was all waste land and people living in mud huts........."


Same guy that said "Ah, I remember when this was a public right of way. Until I built a house on it, ignoring local planning laws and using my contacts to get the right of way moved after I'd built it."



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I feel you are missing the point. There must be a demand for housing or developers wouldn't risk advancing the cash to build them. Wherever houses are built then inevitably some developers will benefit and that is a fact of life. Whether you agree or not it seems to be a recognised fact that a/ the country needs more housing , especially affordable types and b/ one way to boost the economy is to build more houses. Obviously it is better if brownfield sites are used but it is inevitable that as towns/cities expand then some areas of farmland will get swallowed up. The expansion of suburbs creates the demand for more convenient shopping facilities. If the creation of these shopping facilities makes it easier for us to get a new ground then that is a bonus for us.


We are getting non-footy here but there is no massive demand for new housing outside of the south east and some of the conurbations. This is spec building of the kind we got in the 80s only it was more offices then. Stick 'em up, count the cash and move on. That was fuelled by this same idea that unemployment and the economy could be fixed by building stuff. The big builds of the 50s and 60s round here happened when the town was well off, good wages on the Bank and fish factories, skippers moving to the suburbs. There isn't that money here now to drive a house buying  boom so developers are playing the game of build for rent like Scartho Top. Retail is in the same boat - we don't get Debenhams, we get a bigger Primark and it's obvious why. So even if there were more people in houses in Waltham they wouldn't bring much demand for a Sainsburys. In any case a supermarket would be mad to put money into any brand new retail development just now. Even Ramsdens is downsizing and trying to use its land more profitably.



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