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mariner2000
October 7, 2014, 5:44pm

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Or it might spur him to prove Hurst wrong. We dont know exactly what Neilson is like and whether he is a confidence player or someone who responds to criticism do we?


This mis exactly a reason he shouldn't have dropped him.  

Why give hime a rocket and fire him up if you are then going to drop him so he can't prove you wrong?
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It is a questionable statement from Hurst at best, but he has probably been harangued by everyone about why he dropped him and ended up saying that, which should have remained private.
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When Neilson is on form he is a wonderful player and a genuine game changer, when he isnt though he becomes such a frustrating player who becomes impossible to play with as players make runs and he doesnt pass, tries too hard and loses the ball when other players have committed to support him.......and i imagine his over confident personality can get in the way on occassion.


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In the interests of balance, Hurst has praised Neilson many times in the past and commented that he is one payer who can do some things others cannot and that he brings a special dimension to our game. So I do not think he is against him in general but pointing out aspects of play which could be better.


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No it isn't good management. Good management would sort out a team around players' strengths not their weaknesses. Why sign a player and then put him in a situation where he can't do what he does best? He doesn't know whether to sh!t, shave or shower. Neilson was played in his best position and did well, then for no good reason the team is changed, he is stuck out wide and the team doesn't work the same. So he gets the blame for not being a good little lad and chasing round like Billy Bremner on acid.

I mentioned on the other thread that John Robertson was a good example of the Neilson type player and Clough incorporated him into a team where different players with different abilities were welded into a team. That is good management. Bad management is trying to put square pegs in round holes and then chucking them out when they don't fit.



Exactly that. See also Paddy McLaughlin.


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Exactly that. See also Paddy McLaughlin.


Square peg in square hole tonight (allegedly). Singularly failed to impress....

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Did he play centre mid or left mid? If he played centre mid, perhaps someone can explain the formation to me? Did he not get into two great positions for our best two chances, being unlucky with them both? Didn't somebody say 'once the substitutes came on(Paddy being one of those replaced), we lost our dominance in midfield? Just asking like.


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Did he play centre mid or left mid? If he played centre mid, perhaps someone can explain the formation to me? Did he not get into two great positions for our best two chances, being unlucky with them both? Didn't somebody say 'once the substitutes came on(Paddy being one of those replaced), we lost our dominance in midfield? Just asking like.


Well he seemed to spend a lot of time inside of Neilson in a centre mid 3 with Clay and Brown.

As for "unlucky" I guess it's a matter of opinion. An inability to keep a header down could be classed as careless. I'll give you unlucky for the first chance as the keeper saved it but knew little about it.
The reason we lost our dominance in midfield was more about the numbers we had in there rather than specific personnel as both Hannah and Oates played in forward roles...reducing us from five to four against their five.
His all round game lacked energy and effort. He doesn't harrass opponents and his tackling skills for central midfield on tonight's showing are virtually non-existent...

Just saying like.....


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A good save from his first effort. Terrible miss with a free header for the second chance so no bad luck there.

Not his best game, but he wasn't stuck out on the left - we had a sort of fluid 3 in the middle formation with the players popping up all over the place.
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Fair enough. Still, at least you noticed he was playing, mentioning no captains .


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