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Rick12
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Quoted from jonnyboy82
so let me get this straight the bloke has no problem publicly criticising scott neilson who has single handedly won us games in the past and is our best player ..

but I have never ever heard him criticise lenny for missing sitters and costing us points all the time.

the man is a joke and I cant wait for him to get sacked.
As long as players are putting in the effort that goes a long way.Maybe Lenny (haven't seen him yet this season)is putting in the effort and getting let of the hook by Hurst


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Seems like reasonable management to me. Criticising someone who is working as hard as they can, but missing chances makes no sense. Putting more pressure on him isn't gong to help him take the chances. However, if someone could be simply working harder, tracking back more, passing some of the time instead of going alone, then these are things that highlighting can improve.

This forum does seem to be full of people who want to get rid of Hurst (rightly or wrongly) who are then taking every single thing going on and twisting it to be unequivocally negative.
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I've not said anything against Hurst so far, & I don't particularly want to see him sacked just yet because I do think he has got together a good squad this year but his criticism of Neilson really takes the biscuit.
We all saw how Neilson kick started our season at Gateshead & how much the team have relied on him since, I dread to think were we would be without him. For me he's the one player who should be allowed a bit of leeway when things are not going so well, & allowed the odd bad game & not dropped the next, we need him in the team, it wasn't like he was the only one who was below par last Tuesday night.
I really am baffled at times by his team selections & substitutions & his response to Tondeurs questioning on Saturday was just wrong all he had to say was he wanted to approach the Dartford game in a different way or Paddy deserved a chance or anything like that.
Any way despite all that I will still be there tonight supporting my team, which will hopefully include Neilson who will be fired up ready to prove Hurst wrong.
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The problem with Neilson is that when things aren't quite going his way, he tries to do too much, holds onto the ball and dribbles into dead ends instead of passing to teammates. When he's at his best, he goes on his mazy runs but also moves the ball around well with his teammates and is therefore much more effective. It's no coincidence that he's not been playing well in our recent poor run of form because we really do rely on him.

He was very poor against Southport, but no worse than his teammates so I'm surprised Hurst has criticised him in the press in this manner. Perhaps trying to gee him up a bit?

After last Tuesday's debacle, I don't think anybody deserved to be picked out individually as everyone was utterly rubbish - he ought to have given the whole team a rocket!
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Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY
Yeah neilson, stop running the show and let all the other players have a go




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Quoted from jonnyboy82
so let me get this straight the bloke has no problem publicly criticising scott neilson who has single handedly won us games in the past and is our best player ..

but I have never ever heard him criticise lenny for missing sitters and costing us points all the time.

the man is a joke and I cant wait for him to get sacked.


Or Hannah.


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Or Hannah.


yep true.


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Quoted from jonnyboy82


yep true.


What I don't get is why Hannah seems to be immune from criticism. We know that Lenny is never going to be a prolific scorer, he's not in that side to be the main goalscorer and while I appreciate that it would help if he scores more quite frankly Hannah is the one letting the side down. He IS in that side to score goals, yes he runs around alot but he doesn't bring others into the game/create chances like Lenny does yet he is hero worshipped on here while Lenny is vilified.


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but seriously why neilson when you've got lenny who could of won us a few games this season if he never high heels to play in, disley who is past it and struggles to keep up with the game, hannah who does try but is constantly offside and mackreth who hasn't even touched the ball yet for town.

The guys deluded, we've won nothing under him and will continue to do so unless we have a really worth it cup run in the vase!
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Quoted from drbell
Seems like reasonable management to me. Criticising someone who is working as hard as they can, but missing chances makes no sense. Putting more pressure on him isn't gong to help him take the chances. However, if someone could be simply working harder, tracking back more, passing some of the time instead of going alone, then these are things that highlighting can improve.

This forum does seem to be full of people who want to get rid of Hurst (rightly or wrongly) who are then taking every single thing going on and twisting it to be unequivocally negative.


No it isn't good management. Good management would sort out a team around players' strengths not their weaknesses. Why sign a player and then put him in a situation where he can't do what he does best? He doesn't know whether to sh!t, shave or shower. Neilson was played in his best position and did well, then for no good reason the team is changed, he is stuck out wide and the team doesn't work the same. So he gets the blame for not being a good little lad and chasing round like Billy Bremner on acid.

I mentioned on the other thread that John Robertson was a good example of the Neilson type player and Clough incorporated him into a team where different players with different abilities were welded into a team. That is good management. Bad management is trying to put square pegs in round holes and then chucking them out when they don't fit.



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