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Y'know what.....just doing a bit of research I would think there's every possibility this could happen.
I would not be surprised.
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I share many of the concerns expressed by other posters, but I do not share the desire to see a change of manager at this time, primarily because any move as drastic as that should be based on much more evidence than a couple of poor results or our current position in the table.
When considering a manager's future, particularly when there isn't an immediate concern about preserving a place in a particular division, the key questions should be these. Is there a manager out there who would do better with the players that the current manager has at his disposal? If so, is he realistically going to be interested in taking the job? Only if we can answer 'Yes' to both of those should we make a change.
But when I see the likes of Dave Hockaday and Steve Burr, managers who have achieved as much or even less than Paul Hurst has, being suggested as good alternatives, that seems to me to be more about a wish to see a change for the sake of it, rather than whether they are actually better managers. Gary Brabin? Where has he been since Luton sacked him? Why would any of them do a better job than Hurst? At this moment, still relatively early in the season, I think it is a far bigger gamble to sack Hurst than to keep him. This is a time for cool heads and sound reasoning, not the panic that I fear could be triggered if things go awry on Tuesday night.
Very sensible post and exactly my feelings on this, sacking the manager after a couple of bad results is madness, this season we have Hurst with Hursts players, we should accept that and get behind the team until all hope of the play offs is gone , if this happens it would be time to get a new manger for the end of this season to assess the players we have and start again next year. The names metioned above would be a step backwards and Mcdermott smacks too much of Woods apointment
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I share many of the concerns expressed by other posters, but I do not share the desire to see a change of manager at this time, primarily because any move as drastic as that should be based on much more evidence than a couple of poor results or our current position in the table.
When considering a manager's future, particularly when there isn't an immediate concern about preserving a place in a particular division, the key questions should be these. Is there a manager out there who would do better with the players that the current manager has at his disposal? If so, is he realistically going to be interested in taking the job? Only if we can answer 'Yes' to both of those should we make a change.
But when I see the likes of Dave Hockaday and Steve Burr, managers who have achieved as much or even less than Paul Hurst has, being suggested as good alternatives, that seems to me to be more about a wish to see a change for the sake of it, rather than whether they are actually better managers. Gary Brabin? Where has he been since Luton sacked him? Why would any of them do a better job than Hurst? At this moment, still relatively early in the season, I think it is a far bigger gamble to sack Hurst than to keep him. This is a time for cool heads and sound reasoning, not the panic that I fear could be triggered if things go awry on Tuesday night.
Spot on my friend.
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I share many of the concerns expressed by other posters, but I do not share the desire to see a change of manager at this time, primarily because any move as drastic as that should be based on much more evidence than a couple of poor results or our current position in the table.
When considering a manager's future, particularly when there isn't an immediate concern about preserving a place in a particular division, the key questions should be these. Is there a manager out there who would do better with the players that the current manager has at his disposal? If so, is he realistically going to be interested in taking the job? Only if we can answer 'Yes' to both of those should we make a change.
But when I see the likes of Dave Hockaday and Steve Burr, managers who have achieved as much or even less than Paul Hurst has, being suggested as good alternatives, that seems to me to be more about a wish to see a change for the sake of it, rather than whether they are actually better managers. Gary Brabin? Where has he been since Luton sacked him? Why would any of them do a better job than Hurst? At this moment, still relatively early in the season, I think it is a far bigger gamble to sack Hurst than to keep him. This is a time for cool heads and sound reasoning, not the panic that I fear could be triggered if things go awry on Tuesday night.
It is a well argued post but it falls into the old trap we have seen so often before. When Woods was here for instance it took an age for JF to remove him when it was clear the team was going nowhere and two seasons were wasted. Now we are talking about a couple of bad results and giving the manager more time. What happens at Christmas if we stagger along and are a few points off the playoffs? Give the manager still more time? What happens at the end of the season if we happen to get in the playoffs but we are still in the Conference? Give the manager more time? The trouble with time is that it passes a lot quicker than our team moves the ball! Another season in this league means more than likely a lower budget next year and even less chance of going up. Another season means we lose several of the Hurst signings as well. Another season means another bedding in period for a new manager to sign and build his team and of course he has to be "given more time" as well. So, reasonable as your points are, I think the time has run out if we really are to get promoted. Even if a new manager failed this year we would be no worse off and there are better ones around than those you mention. What is for sure is that for a Hurst side to be promoted would need an enormous amount of luck plus even more money to be spent in January. Even then he is unlikely to suddenly blossom into a leader capable of inspiring spirit, enthusiasm and consistency - the qualities lacking in this side - or to attract that extra-special player that could make all the difference to a team. In fact the problem lies, as it does so often, with JF and the budget. Not the budget for players though. Even after all these years JF has not cottoned on that signing the best manager available is the best use of his cash. The el cheapo option only leads to trouble in the end.
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I share many of the concerns expressed by other posters, but I do not share the desire to see a change of manager at this time, primarily because any move as drastic as that should be based on much more evidence than a couple of poor results or our current position in the table.
When considering a manager's future, particularly when there isn't an immediate concern about preserving a place in a particular division, the key questions should be these. Is there a manager out there who would do better with the players that the current manager has at his disposal? If so, is he realistically going to be interested in taking the job? Only if we can answer 'Yes' to both of those should we make a change.
But when I see the likes of Dave Hockaday and Steve Burr, managers who have achieved as much or even less than Paul Hurst has, being suggested as good alternatives, that seems to me to be more about a wish to see a change for the sake of it, rather than whether they are actually better managers. Gary Brabin? Where has he been since Luton sacked him? Why would any of them do a better job than Hurst? At this moment, still relatively early in the season, I think it is a far bigger gamble to sack Hurst than to keep him. This is a time for cool heads and sound reasoning, not the panic that I fear could be triggered if things go awry on Tuesday night.
Good post but a tad too sensible for me in that sticking with the status quo could get us promotion, the fact is apart from the two high scoring results we have labored to put out weekly a team that can confidently take on the opposition even though on paper and IMO they are inferior to us skill and fitness wise. Will this change all of a sudden from tomorrow onwards, bookies think not thats why we are not 4th favourites any more, Yes Rob Hurst would not be out of a job long should he depart from here his nearly record speakes for itself, but his seemingly stubborn attitude has started to build up a barrier between him and the supporters and thats something only consecutive wins and a change in his outlook on the opposition will mend. IMO we are at a crossroads as I have said before where we stick with a nearly man and all his negatives regarding team picking ,subtitutions and failure to procure a striker when required, or twist and try a new man with all the risks, excitement and possible failure this might bring. After giving it a lot of thought I think we as a club now need some kind of promise and a new adventure Sh1t or bust
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