Goodbye Hurst

Quoted from Maringer

A little unfair to stick Buckley in that list as he was theoretically already retired when he joined us for his last spell.

The others have certainly proved themselves incapable of being decent managers. Scott was a lunatic, Woods was a nice guy, but not at all managerial. I won't say what I think of Newell as I'm trying to avoid swearing.  

I could go on,

Graeme Rodger,

Mike Lyons had to go half way round the world to find a job,

Get the sack from Grimsby and no one wants you,

Think about that Hursty, kick some arses before yours get's kick for good.

Definition of insanity : doing the same thing over again and expecting a different outcome.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Not every manager that gets the sack gets another job,

I can think of a few that have not got a job as a manager,

Rob  Scott

Neil Woods

Mike Newell

Alan Buckley

There seems to be a theme here don't you think ?

Bit of a flipping joke to stick Buckley in that list, given what he´s done for our club. In his third spell we were heading downward anyway due to various factors, and he´d come out of retirement to take up the job - whatever he did in that spell, let's not forget what he did the first couple of times.

Quoted from TAGG

So if we keep getting into the top 5 for say the next 3 seasons and keep losing in the playoffs we just take that as success and keep on employing Hurst??????
We need to be top of the league not top 5
This acceptance of second best by people inside the club from the very top down  has been a massive problem at our club over the last 10 years or so.
Okay we have got in the top 5 but what good has it done?????? we may as well ended up 5th from bottom because its the same result at the end of the season we are still in this excrement non-league.
"Soccernomics (mandatory reading for anyone with an interest in football)" you patronising football snob

If we finish in the top 5 every year it's only a matter of time before we get promoted. Obviously if we get in the top 5 we're good enough to win the play-offs, every team in the top 5 is.

Don't see why I am a snob for recommending a book. The chapter is called something like "Does the Manager Matter: The Myth of the White Messiah".. I think sacking PH now would be a classic case of replacing someone for the sake of it and the absurd thing is he'd walk into another job elsewhere because of his record here.

Gary Mills- appointed Gateshead manager Sep 2013 and took them to a play off final. Also appointed York manager Oct 2010. Took them up 2011/12.

Richard Money- appointed Cambridge manager Oct 2012 and took them up in his first full season. He was also appointed Luton manager in the month of Oct 2009 where he had a 55% win rate.

Justin Edingurgh- appointed Newport manager in Oct 2011 and took them up in his first full season.

Bit of a pattern there. Managers have poor start to the season. Chairman acts about Sep/Oct.

It can work if you do your research and pick the right man.

Quoted from GrimRob

If we finish in the top 5 every year it's only a matter of time before we get promoted. Obviously if we get in the top 5 we're good enough to win the play-offs, every team in the top 5 is.

Don't see why I am a snob for recommending a book. The chapter is called something like "Does the Manager Matter: The Myth of the White Messiah".. I think sacking PH now would be a classic case of replacing someone for the sake of it and the absurd thing is he'd walk into another job elsewhere because of his record here.

But you didn't just recommend it though.You said that it was mandatory reading for anyone interested in football. That is entirely different  and whether you meant it to or not it does come across as patronising.  

The various clubs that people have quoted as having benefited from a change in management have one thing in common-they have wielded the axe lots of times in recent years. Some might say therefore that eventually they got lucky. One point is being missed repeatedly in this argument. Available finance has a massive part to play. A lot of clubs join the merry-go-round when they change owners with the new owners often making huge sums of money available for the new man to spend. That is fine at the level of Championship/Premiership but when you get down to our level and have been reliant on the funds of one man for an extended period money to pay off existing managers, bring in a new one and allow him to recruit personnel is more difficult to find.  Luton only had an advantage because the money they generated through (a.) a marvellous F.A. cup run in 2012 and (b.) historically a much larger support base than we enjoy. Newport had a new man with pots of money and Mansfield also had money from a great cup run. (As far as they go it will be interesting to see how they do this season as their gates aren't great and cup money doesn't last for ever in this industry). In the past mistakes have been made regarding managerial appointments. Attempts financially have been made to rectify those errors and like it or not at the moment on the basis of league position at the end of a season Paul Hurst is the most successful manager since the much derided Russell Slade. Just perhaps the powers that be want to see if he has that element of luck to get us over the final finishing line rather than trust to luck that a new manager will be able to deliver the results we all want.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Not every manager that gets the sack gets another job,

I can think of a few that have not got a job as a manager,

Rob  Scott

Neil Woods

Mike Newell

Alan Buckley

There seems to be a theme here don't you think ?

Wash your mouth out  Pete,  Buckley came out of retirement for the good of the club and should not be grouped with those failures

Quoted from ginnywings

Gary Mills- appointed Gateshead manager Sep 2013 and took them to a play off final. Also appointed York manager Oct 2010. Took them up 2011/12.

Richard Money- appointed Cambridge manager Oct 2012 and took them up in his first full season. He was also appointed Luton manager in the month of Oct 2009 where he had a 55% win rate.

Justin Edingurgh- appointed Newport manager in Oct 2011 and took them up in his first full season.

Bit of a pattern there. Managers have poor start to the season. Chairman acts about Sep/Oct.

It can work if you do your research and pick the right man.

Money had money...

Edinburgh had money

Mills may well prove your point but as yet he's actually no better off than Hurst

I am in the Hurst out brigade & found it interesting that a comment made by Macca was how the players came out to a flat atmosphere on Tuesday. IMO this is areflection of how divided the fans are to PH and the fact that there is no real expectation, just hope, that we will be going to witness an entertaining performance.

Once a Manager loses the support of the fans it is normally only a matter of time before the inevitable happens. Rightly or wrongly every poor result is going to be matched by calls for his head and die hards attending BP will become less & less. I have a season ticket but will not be there next Tuesday even though I expect us to win that one & have no plans to attend a game in the near future.

After going for 50 years the the quality of football served up, and the reliance of scoring goals on hannah & LJL, under PH is just not worth the effort of travelling over.