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grimsby pete
October 1, 2014, 10:22am

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Quoted from RonMariner
'Some good results,  some bad results'.

That is true. That's the problem. It's called inconsistency.  That will not get us out of this division.


Agree Ronnie, that's why some on here including myself can not make our mind up about Hurst,

I think Fenty will stick with him for now, we might make the play offs or just miss out,

That will be the time to take a hard look at things and decide whether it will be worth giving somebody else the chance to do better,

Unless there is a bloke with a magic wand out there who wants the job now.


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But should we be fighting for a place in the play-offs after 5 seasons ?

or should we be fighting for the top spot.

i think Hurst has done well to get us in the play-offs in the past, and signs some good players.

but he is showing how the most we will ever do is get in the play-offs, no ambition at all
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It isn't nice to say I told you so but .............

Listening to another sensible downbeat interview from PH it is pretty clear he does not know the answer. He kept on about "finding a way to win" as though a one-nil was the limit of his ambitions. Bristol struggled against Southport he says. So what? That's their problem. Southport simply played a simple game and our simple minded team couldn't counter it.

He makes excuses about Arnold's injury. If he had been on the bench where would he have used him? Taken off a winger almost for certain. But he doesn't even try moving Neilson into the middle after 30 minutes of stalemate.  He says LJL and Hannah like playing together. Great, I hope they will be very happy, somewhere else. It clearly is never going to be a goals galore partnership is it?

The "highlights" of this game show the PH problems perfectly. If anyone is in any doubt that we will never be anything other than a hard to beat away side that might scape a playoff place - study those highlights and see how easy it was to out-think him.

He won't be sacked yet. I've said this before but JF cannot afford to do it yet and we will only see the usual arguments about achievements to date, wait and see where we are by Christmas and so on. Plus there is nobody with oomph and nous available unless we buy them from another club. I'd be surprised if things pan out differently. So - no change. It's only 1st October but we might as well face the inevitable. In May two teams will be promoted but Town will not be one of them.


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October 1, 2014, 10:52am

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It isn't nice to say I told you so but .............

Listening to another sensible downbeat interview from PH it is pretty clear he does not know the answer. He kept on about "finding a way to win" as though a one-nil was the limit of his ambitions. Bristol struggled against Southport he says. So what? That's their problem. Southport simply played a simple game and our simple minded team couldn't counter it.

He makes excuses about Arnold's injury. If he had been on the bench where would he have used him? Taken off a winger almost for certain. But he doesn't even try moving Neilson into the middle after 30 minutes of stalemate.  He says LJL and Hannah like playing together. Great, I hope they will be very happy, somewhere else. It clearly is never going to be a goals galore partnership is it?

The "highlights" of this game show the PH problems perfectly. If anyone is in any doubt that we will never be anything other than a hard to beat away side that might scape a playoff place - study those highlights and see how easy it was to out-think him.

He won't be sacked yet. I've said this before but JF cannot afford to do it yet and we will only see the usual arguments about achievements to date, wait and see where we are by Christmas and so on. Plus there is nobody with oomph and nous available unless we buy them from another club. I'd be surprised if things pan out differently. So - no change. It's only 1st October but we might as well face the inevitable. In May two teams will be promoted but Town will not be one of them.


Give up if you want but I bet Forest Green and Eastleigh haven't - one and two points above us. I certainly wouldn't give up now even if we had less points than we do. We're in the Pellaton, there's a few riders ahead of us, but nobody we can't catch - especially with the tricky hurdles of the winter and FA Trophy still for everyone to negotiate. The King of the Winter jersey could be ours!


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October 1, 2014, 10:58am

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Give up if you want but I bet Forest Green and Eastleigh haven't - one and two points above us. I certainly wouldn't give up now even if we had less points than we do. We're in the Pellaton, there's a few riders ahead of us, but nobody we can't catch - especially with the tricky hurdles of the winter and FA Trophy still for everyone to negotiate. The King of the Winter jersey could be ours!


Have we got the sprinter to snatch a victory,

Or an all rounder who will win the G.C.  ( general classification )


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So what has changed over the last 3/4 years  nothing.. we are still in this pub / part time league with a sunday league manager,, yes he has spotted some good players.. or rather been told about good players, managed to sign them, and hey presto he hasnt got a clue what to do with them , he has to go and the sooner the better. and them that want him to stay must be happy with just being a mid table team at best
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Two options either sack Hurst or get a decent striker in ,that entails a financial outlay either way.A .decent striker would pay for himself re attendances .Do nothing another season in this god awful league and ever dwindling gates.Its your call Mr Fenty.


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Quoted from GrimRob


Give up if you want but I bet Forest Green and Eastleigh haven't - one and two points above us. I certainly wouldn't give up now even if we had less points than we do. We're in the Pellaton, there's a few riders ahead of us, but nobody we can't catch - especially with the tricky hurdles of the winter and FA Trophy still for everyone to negotiate. The King of the Winter jersey could be ours!


I would love to think you are right Rob, being old enough to remember 1962 when we were many points adrift at Christmas then went on a long unbeaten run and romped into promotion. So yes, it can happen and I will be more than happy to recant my pessimism.

I am struggling to see LJL and Hannah as replacements for Rafferty and Portwood up front though!



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Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God
But should we be fighting for a place in the play-offs after 5 seasons ?

or should we be fighting for the top spot.


We've got probably the 4th or 5th highest budget in the division so the play-offs should be the target at the very least, but you would certainly hope we would be up nearer the top spot as well.

It took Luton 5 years of spending masses of money (much more than we've got available) to win promotion and they were nowhere near automatic promotion during their first four seasons in the Conference. With the likes of Barnet, FGR, Eastleigh and Rovers all spending lots of money, I think the play-offs are the most likely route for us getting out of this division, though whether or not we'll manage it, I don't know. I had a lot more confidence that we could prior to last night's shambles, that's for sure.
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