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Meza
September 21, 2014, 5:32pm Report to Moderator

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Im not going to continue to be negative about PH as I've had my moan.  Yes it was wrong of me to wish town a defeat that was wrong and not the correct way to support a football club.

if we make the playoffs....nice one.  If we get promoted I will be in ecstasy.   If we dont I will let JF decide PH fate but my job is to support and back everyone at the club through the good times and bad.

I don't usually moan but I would say alot of crap that I wrote was down to frustration.

Anyway lets hope we can continue positive momentum.

Up the mariners


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Im not going to continue to be negative about PH as I've had my moan.  Yes it was wrong of me to wish town a defeat that was wrong and not the correct way to support a football club.

if we make the playoffs....nice one.  If we get promoted I will be in ecstasy.   If we dont I will let JF decide PH fate but my job is to support and back everyone at the club through the good times and bad.

I don't usually moan but I would say alot of crap that I wrote was down to frustration.

Anyway lets hope we can continue positive momentum.

Up the mariners


Stick to what your opinion is and don't be swayed..

If you don't want hurst here that's your opinion and if you do that's yours too..

I don't want him as I think he has taken us as far as he can , some disagree and to me that's fine.


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To say he's not trying to win the league is ridiculous. Of course he will want to win the league but ultimately, when only one automatic spot is available, the play offs shouldn't be considered a failure, it still gives us a shot at going up.


I am sure PH is trying to win the league in the sense that he would not want to lose games. As an ambition though I think his sights are set on a playoff spot because that is considerably more realistic and considerably easier.

There are problems though. The playoffs is not quite so much of a lottery now. Cambridge were always going to win last season and that was because they actually set their sights on the title, led the race for quite a while and so were much better than the other 3 playoff sides. That is what I and some of the other critics of the Hurst management mean when we say we lack some players and the ambition and style to get us promoted.

In other words, having a shot at going up is not good enough. What was that corny saying? Something about aim for the stars and you might reach the moon?



"Aim for the sky and you'll reach the ceiling. Aim for the ceiling and you'll stay on the floor."  Bill Shankly
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Stick to what your opinion is and don't be swayed..

If you don't want hurst here that's your opinion and if you do that's yours too..

I don't want him as I think he has taken us as far as he can , some disagree and to me that's fine.


Yeah i know what your saying Jonnyboy, and it does look as if i've been swayed, but i haven't.  I have my opinions too on PH but i've done a lot of thinking today, and tbf i just want us to do well, as us all, and i will continue to support the team and manager until such time.  lets hope we get atleast 9 points min from the next 4 games.  


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Quoted from Meza
Im not going to continue to be negative about PH as I've had my moan.  Yes it was wrong of me to wish town a defeat that was wrong and not the correct way to support a football club.

if we make the playoffs....nice one.  If we get promoted I will be in ecstasy.   If we dont I will let JF decide PH fate but my job is to support and back everyone at the club through the good times and bad.

I don't usually moan but I would say alot of crap that I wrote was down to frustration.

Anyway lets hope we can continue positive momentum.

Up the mariners


Fair play   there , yes it was a bit over the top wishing we loose. but frustration gets to everyone now and again , especially when it comes to football, and it showed that you care enough to go all the way , I believe that hurst wont get us up and back in the league, and i will not take playoff loses as sucess. his job is to get up promoted  end of.
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I nothing wrong with people expresses strong opinions on this board,it shows the passion they have for the club,the time to worry is when apathy creeps in and people no longer care.

Remember       Thesis + Antitheses = Synthesis.


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I nothing wrong with people expresses strong opinions on this board,it shows the passion they have for the club,the time to worry is when apathy creeps in and people no longer care.

Remember       Thesis + Antitheses = Synthesis.


Yes. And I remember that the most famous exponent of dialectics in the political sphere wanted nothing less than a complete revolution and overthrow of the regime.


Oi niitä aikoja, oi niitä aikoja
Ne tahtoisin niin elää uudelleen
Tuo aika rakkauden
Tuo aika nuoruuden
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I am sure PH is trying to win the league in the sense that he would not want to lose games. As an ambition though I think his sights are set on a playoff spot because that is considerably more realistic and considerably easier.

There are problems though. The playoffs is not quite so much of a lottery now. Cambridge were always going to win last season and that was because they actually set their sights on the title, led the race for quite a while and so were much better than the other 3 playoff sides. That is what I and some of the other critics of the Hurst management mean when we say we lack some players and the ambition and style to get us promoted.

In other words, having a shot at going up is not good enough. What was that corny saying? Something about aim for the stars and you might reach the moon?



I think you're right that he may be happy purely with the play offs whilst still wanting to win the league. But I disagree that Cambridge were always going to win the play offs. We beat them with a great performance in January and there is no reason that we couldn't have done so again if we'd played them. We were also unlucky to lose at home against them in the league to an own goal in a game that was pretty even overall. The season before Kiddie finished 8 points ahead of Newport and had been leading the table for a long time all season but they didn't go up, so there is never any guarantee that a team will win the play offs. The season before, York were 15 points behind Wrexham but they went up.

The play offs are a lottery and are basically a mini cup competition and it comes down to who plays better on the day generally as Wrexham were clearly a better side throughout the season than York had been and Kiddie better than Newport. I think PH aims for the league title but if we only make the play offs he isn't unhappy as we still have as much chance of others of succeeding in them. Until this stupid league gets more than 1 automatic place though, it will remain like that. We don't have the biggest budget, we shouldn't expect to win and view the play offs as failure. It's about where our budget states we should be.

For arguments sake, let's say we get in the play offs again and lose once more. If we'd shown improvement on last term throughout this coming season then I don't see how that can be a failure, we would still be going in the right direction.


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Yes. And I remember that the most famous exponent of dialectics in the political sphere wanted nothing less than a complete revolution and overthrow of the regime.


Que Sera.


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So is Toto only on 3 yellows? - Big Chris says that there was no yellow at Aldershot and Grantham Mariner says there was no yellow at Gateshead - if so - GOOD!

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My mistake it was Aldershot.




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