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grimsby pete
September 19, 2014, 7:25pm

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Gone are the days of 3 and 4 year contracts at this level.


Out in the real world , no hours contracts have become more common,

Bloody Tories !!!!!!!!


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Yep, it's the Bosman thing. Most players tend to sign one year contracts these days (sometimes with a 'rolling' option), because they can just walk away at the end of it regardless. Very few players are considered vital enough to be tied down on longer contracts, unless they are cheaper youngsters.

I think that the real top international players are the only ones who get tied down into long contracts so the clubs can get some value for the vast transfer fees paid.

A bit of a shambles all around really. I think the idea that a settled team can improve year on year is probably true but it's a bit of a crap shoot at this level with so many players moving on each season. No continuity at all.
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On the plus side, at least we're not giving out 3 year contracts to the likes of Hegarty anymore!


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September 19, 2014, 10:23pm

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Bosman changed everything. That and ITV Digitial were two massive kicks in the nuts to GTFC. Bosman happened in 1995 when we were more or less at our peak, but affected all small selling clubs. ITV Digital then came in 2002 which began the slow slide, but we were the worst hit. Only Hitler invading Poland when our greatest ever side was broken up ranks alongside these catalysmic events.


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Bosman changed everything. That and ITV Digitial were two massive kicks in the nuts to GTFC. Bosman happened in 1995 when we were more or less at our peak, but affected all small selling clubs. ITV Digital then came in 2002 which began the slow slide, but we were the worst hit. Only Hitler invading Poland when our greatest ever side was broken up ranks alongside these catalysmic events.


I'm not denying that ITV digital had an effect but it's getting to the time where we have to accept that poor management has had a more enduring effect on our current situation.
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I'm not denying that ITV digital had an effect but it's getting to the time where we have to accept that poor management has had a more enduring effect on our current situation.


I'm not suggesting it is causing us a problem any more, merely that it's impossible to go back to the days where players stayed at a club for many years as the norm, and you flogged one of the better ones every couple of years to balance the books. I still remember the day the Bosman ruling happened, I knew instantly it would massively change the whole game more or less overnight. I must admit I thought many clubs would go under, that hasn't happened, well it sort of has because most clubs have been in administration at least once.


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September 19, 2014, 11:02pm
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Out in the real world , no hours contracts have become more common,

Bloody Tories !!!!!!!!


You mean zero hour contracts that became prevalent under the labour government? The same government that sat on their hands for 13 years and did intercourse all about it?  
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You mean zero hour contracts that became prevalent under the labour government? The same government that sat on their hands for 13 years and did intercourse all about it?  


Stand corrected but they have become more and more common over the last few years.


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No need to apologise, Pete.

'Zero hour contracts' certainly came in during the last Labour government (the laws were passed back in 199, but it wasn't too much of an issue when the economy was doing well, before the financial crash of 2008. Back then, wages were doing OK and growing with the economy so there was plenty of demand for labour (with a small 'L'), and these contracts were acceptable.

Unfortunately, after the crash, this laxity in the employment laws has meant that big companies are shafting many workers and the number of people on these zero-hour contracts has more than trebled, (as far as the ONS is aware). 'New' Labour were to blame for bringing in this neo-liberal bullshit which benefits nobody but businesses and the Tories are, of course, very happy to continue with it.

All in all, a pretty fecking awful idea. No surprise that the productivity of our workers is so awful with such crappy employment conditions applying a million and a half workers (that we know of).
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Are we talking about the old 1 sub days and players were more versatile. Liverpool winning the league using only 14 players and everybody knew that the number 3 was generally the left back and the 14 shirt was only used in Europe and Internationals. Happy days  


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