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If Hannah isn;t scoring then he offers nothing really Seems a stupid thing to say about a striker but - despite the morons behind me in Ponny slagging Lenny off after 4 minutes, wanting him to be brought off when he was injured thus leaving us with 10 men, and just waiting for the poor sod to make a mistake of any kind, most 'fair minded' people can see that LJL offers a lot in terms of holding the ball up, and bringing other players into the play
Still, it's always 'super Rossy Hannah' whatever he does
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If Hannah isn;t scoring then he offers nothing really Seems a stupid thing to say about a striker but - despite the morons behind me in Ponny slagging Lenny off after 4 minutes, wanting him to be brought off when he was injured thus leaving us with 10 men, and just waiting for the poor sod to make a mistake of any kind, most 'fair minded' people can see that LJL offers a lot in terms of holding the ball up, and bringing other players into the play
Still, it's always 'super Rossy Hannah' whatever he does
Whoever plays out wide or as second striker must feel under tremendous pressure to score goals in this side, knowing that game after game the main striker is unlikely to do it.
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Stevie Saunders |
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I accept your point on main striker We have a main striker who is generally a really good player but can't score a hatful or consistently and another (Hannah) who has 'offsideitis', wh gets knocked off the ball easily, and whose control is pretty poor
Quite a problem to be honest and we now have the best all round striker and possible 20+ goals (Pittman) out injured for weeks
Deflated and hacked off!!
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TownSNAFU5 |
September 14, 2014, 7:41pm |
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Hannah would benefit with a run of games. The rub being that he hasn't played more often because he was not considered good enough or suitable to work with his fellow striker.
In truth, Hannah has never replicated the number of goals he scored when first on loan to us. He also looks as if he was born offside.
Overall, we are now struggling with our strikers when other parts of the team are not functioning as well as they should do.
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grimsby pete |
September 14, 2014, 8:05pm |
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I have been watching football and supporting the Mariners for nearly 60 years now,
I played as a striker and feel I know what goes through ones head and what is needed to be good at your job,
So I will give you my opinion on our strikers past and present ( for what it is worth )
John Lewis will never be prolific we all know he works his socks off and I would have loved to play along side him,( at this level he should be scoring a few more goals to keep his place in the team )
Ross Hannah is a goal scorer but he needs the ball played in the right places for him to put them away, we do not seem to be able to do that very well,
Andy Cook was the type of player that needed the boss to put his arms around him and keep telling him how good he is, that did not happen, So he lacked confidence
Dayle Southwell showed promise and deserved a bit more game time to prove his worth, he never got it,( I would have given him another contract and then loaned him to Boston )
Some of you will say, why should a manager have to tell a player how good he is all the time,
Well it works at Chelsea , Lampard was told nearly every day he was the best midfield in the world,
He did not believe his boss but it gave him confidence to do things and score goals,
It is the managers job not only to get the team to play a certain way but to make sure that all the players understand their role and that they have the confidence to fulfil it,
Once all the players understand what their role in the formation is and they are happy and confident to do it, you just might get some consistency and some reward for every bodies hard work ie promotion.
I feel a lot of the above is not been done , so if the said manager finds himself out of a job he can only blame himself,
One final point if the manager keeps on about the other side, you start to believe they are better than they are and the fear factor creeps in,
Top managers might mention one or two things to look out for but they will tell their players never mind about them,
You go out and work hard and show them how good we are.
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September 14, 2014, 8:33pm |
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Well get ready for plenty of my views on your opinions because that is what a forum/message board is about. Or am I to believe (with your sanctimonious attitude) that it should only be available for those who wish to toe the party line.
I'm fed up of listening to/reading why we should continue to tolerate 10 years of failure and I see no sign from our current manager that this will change any time soon. Convince me otherwise!
What is this party line you keep going on about? I say it as I see it and at least I can say I've seen it with my own eyes....
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September 14, 2014, 8:40pm |
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Hannah would benefit with a run of games. The rub being that he hasn't played more often because he was not considered good enough or suitable to work with his fellow striker.
In truth, Hannah has never replicated the number of goals he scored when first on loan to us. He also looks as if he was born offside.
Overall, we are now struggling with our strikers when other parts of the team are not functioning as well as they should do.
I do think Hannah would benefit from a run of games-the trouble is in a team that doesn't seem, in general, to create a lot of chances, the pressure is on from the start. I don't really get this we don't provide him with the right sort of service-both chances on Saturday were put on a plate. I actually think he could form a decent partnership with LJL over time-time that he may well have if JPPs injury is a bad one.
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Lincoln Mariner 56 |
September 14, 2014, 8:58pm |
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I do think Hannah would benefit from a run of games-the trouble is in a team that doesn't seem, in general, to create a lot of chances, the pressure is on from the start. I don't really get this we don't provide him with the right sort of service-both chances on Saturday were put on a plate. I actually think he could form a decent partnership with LJL over time-time that he may well have if JPPs injury is a bad one.
I admire your optimism Barra but do not recall them playing all that great when paired together last season.
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I do think Hannah would benefit from a run of games-the trouble is in a team that doesn't seem, in general, to create a lot of chances, the pressure is on from the start. I don't really get this we don't provide him with the right sort of service-both chances on Saturday were put on a plate. I actually think he could form a decent partnership with LJL over time-time that he may well have if JPPs injury is a bad one.
We attempt to play football but we just aren't , and never look dangerous . When we do get in the box our excitement level rarely get my juices flowing . Regarding striker partnerships as much as I would love John and Ross to be the Keegan Tochack of Grimsby I really can't see it .
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MuddyWaters |
September 14, 2014, 9:03pm |
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I do think Hannah would benefit from a run of games-the trouble is in a team that doesn't seem, in general, to create a lot of chances, the pressure is on from the start. I don't really get this we don't provide him with the right sort of service-both chances on Saturday were put on a plate. I actually think he could form a decent partnership with LJL over time-time that he may well have if JPPs injury is a bad one.
Didn't you watch them last season? The best Hannah played was with Cook against Huddersfield.
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