Scotland in or out.

Agree with scrumble the average person will gain no benefit at all,

If they want to be ruled by a government in Scotland rather than in London,

They can moan at them instead, it will not make any difference,

Quoted from grimsby pete

Agree with scrumble the average person will gain no benefit at all,

If they want to be ruled by a government in Scotland rather than in London,

They can moan at them instead, it will not make any difference,

The argument that something someone in Glasgow votes for gets over ridden by the masses down south should be taken to its logical conclusion, in an independent Scotland what someone in Shetland votes for will be over ridden by the masses in Glasgow. The only way to make this 'fair' is to go back to tribal villages

Quoted from scrumble

The argument that something someone in Glasgow votes for gets over ridden by the masses down south should be taken to its logical conclusion, in an independent Scotland what someone in Shetland votes for will be over ridden by the masses in Glasgow. The only way to make this 'fair' is to go back to tribal villages

Totally agree. If anywhere ought to become independent it's the South East of England, that's the part of the country that really drives the rest of the economy, and also the contains the most solid Tory areas.

It's a bit of a double edged sword for me. If I was Scottish myself I would vote Yes but I'm English and the potential for permanent Tory majority rule is pretty terrifying. Yes or No I hope it stirs people a bit and this country becomes less London and the Southcentric.

Why should jocks, taffs and paddies get their own parliaments or assemblies when us in the north of England have to put up with millionaires from the south's decisions? If the Scots stay in the UK then the regions should be pushing for our own assemblies - sort of like how Spain's government works (very basic knowledge of this subject, don't quote me on it)

I live in Glasgow and got to vote today.  Considering I'm an Englishman living in Scotland I decided I'd ignore the propaganda of both sides and do my own research into Scottish independence.  I ended up voting No simply because the basis of an independent Scotland under the proposed plan is of a nationalist agenda.  There is no doubt that Scotland has the resources to exist as an independent country however while the SNP is the governing body, they potentially isolate themselves from a favourable standing in the world.  Considering the SNP government are the ones who would be leading the initial negotiations with rUK prior to 2016 they have given the rUK an advantage by Salmond threatening numerous times that Scotland could renege their share of the UK debt if they don't get a currency union.  This is shooting himself in the foot because Scotland will need foreign investment (including rUK) in developing an independent country.  By threatening non-payment of a fair share of debt accumulated isolates themselves from any potential investors whose decisions are purely risk based.  I learnt a lot about the history of England and Scotland that I simply was not aware of and feel it's something that needs to be taught in schools.  I'll always be an Englishman but I've grown to love Scotland, and in particular the passion of the Scots that I feel we English folk often lack.  I agree with their fight against the unfairness of their representation in Westminster.  Scotland is treated as a region by population when in fact it is it's own country that has entered into this union and thus should have it's national beliefs have a more relevant influence within Westminster.  I am hoping for a narrow victory for No which hopefully will be enough of a scare to cause some unrest in our archaic parliamentary system.  Talking to Scots I was surprised how many weren't even aware there was a referendum on electoral reform in 2011.  I'm sure if a rerun of that referendum occurred with more promotion there'd be a different turn out to the poor 42% that voted before.  Anyway I could waffle all night but I hope there'll be enough from Scotland to let Westminster know their dissatisfaction yet giving Westminster an opportunity to fix the old-fashioned failures of our parliamentary system.

Good post DS.

Quoted from cmackenzie4

Good post DS.

Cheers.  While it looks like No will win I really hope it isn't just left at that, Scotland has a justified reason for more say in the UK Parliament than they have when you consider they're a unified country.  We'll see what happens.

Salmond so gracious in defeat....."the people have rejected independance.....at this stage.....and i accept that"  
There is no "at this stage"  you got your way,  you had your campaign, ...they voted...you lost....fck off.

Think we should just refer to Scotland as Northern England from now on.  

Now we should have a referendum on a British football team