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For months I have thought I hope they stay in the union,
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After going into all the extra benefits they already receive plus we are now going to give them more if they vote no,
I have changed my mind, let them stand on their own and they can all moan at Salmond instead of English rule,
We might miss the oil revenue but that will be compensated by not giving them the extra cash to stay in.
What's your views or are you not bothered either way.
My thoughts are they will vote to stay with us by 2%.
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September 12, 2014, 4:42pm |
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I think there ought to be three badges for people to wear. On one badge it says "yes" for those in favour. On another badge it says "no" for those not in favour. And another badge for most Englishmen saying "I don't give a toss either way"
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grimsby pete |
September 12, 2014, 4:51pm |
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What I think is wrong is, a Scot living in England does not have a vote on his or her countries future,
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An English person living in Scotland does have a vote,
Plain silly imo.
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September 12, 2014, 7:07pm |
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What I think is wrong is, a Scot living in England does not have a vote on his or her countries future,
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An English person living in Scotland does have a vote,
Plain silly imo.
I think they never went down that route just because of the potential problems it would cause. Defining who is Scottish for a start would be an issue and then you'd also have Scots around the world claiming a vote as well which would just be impractical. Just comparing Scots in England with English in Scotland is not the whole picture. There's plenty of other nationalities living in Scotland and plenty of Scots living outside of Scotland and England. Making residents of Scotland eligible to vote was just the more sensible and practical option.
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September 12, 2014, 8:04pm |
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Inclined to agree with Pete's OP, but it'll probably mean we have a Tory government most of the time if they go. They Sweaties are good to have on your side in a scrap too. Same with the Micks.
Mind you if they do go they're not having the poond without so many controls from the Bank of England that independence will be meaningless.
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September 14, 2014, 8:41am |
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Be a disaster if they leave but it's looking like they won't. The No vote is getting shorter odds every day. Fingers crossed.
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September 14, 2014, 4:23pm |
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I'm slightly disappointed by that Rob, because the nasty part of me would love to see that smug git Alec Salmond explain to an expectant nation why he's having to pass another austerity budget because the Bank of England demands it.
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September 16, 2014, 5:31pm |
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Wish they'd sod off to be honest.
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grimsby pete |
September 16, 2014, 6:10pm |
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I getting bored with it on the news all the time now,
I hope after the vote we do not get another 3 months of what will happen now,
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September 18, 2014, 8:55am |
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Its not going to do any of us any good. Separation is going to cost billions to both sides of the border, with the only gain being flag waving rights in Scotland. The banks in Scotland have all said they'll be leaving, banks that employ 7% of people in Scotland, and bring in more revenue than north sea oil. The main yes arguement I've seen is "Westminster is corrupt" Yes it is, but no more than any other government in the world, does anyone seriously believe that a Scottish parliament would be unique in the world and all its politicians will only do whats best for the voters, and not for themselves? I can guarantee that after a Yes vote there is big money to be made on the change over. New government buildings, new road signs, paperwork, basically the whole infrastructure of a nation starting from scratch. There will stories of corruption as Scottish government officials award contracts to brothers, nephews and anyone with a big enough brown envelope.
Jobs will not appear out of thin air, the streets will not be paved with gold, industry will not invest in a new nation with an unknown economy, and major companies will leave. Not being a member of the EU means no hand outs.
Whatever the vote the average man on the street, be it in Grimsby or Glasgow, will see no benefit at all.
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