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friskneymariner
September 11, 2014, 9:42am

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I am just so perplexed with 80's glory harping on about luck,you make your own luck ,and whilst unexpected unforeseen random events may have a little impact on the outcome of an event,they are very insignificant,in the overall scheme of things.

You can guarantee the most skilful ,well prepared and  organised teams have the greater proportion of 'luck' no coincidence that.    


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Quoted from 120797

I meant over the whole season so far...




I'm sorry but you have lost me there, why do I have to mention luck.

So far this season :-

Bristol Rovers  -  not a great performance but 2 points lost due to crap finishing by LJL

Nuneaton & Dover  -  2 poor performances

Gateshead & Alfreton  -  2 very good games where the whole team played well.

Aldershot  -  could have won this game by half-time but for poor finishing, then LJL foolishly got himself sent off and we lost the game.

Welling  -  not a great performance but a win and helped by poor finishing from Welling.

Lincoln  -  played OK at times but again poor finishing possibly cost us the game.

Luck doesn't get you promoted.



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I'm sorry but you have lost me there, why do I have to mention luck.

So far this season :-

Bristol Rovers  -  not a great performance but 2 points lost due to crap finishing by LJL

Nuneaton & Dover  -  2 poor performances

Gateshead & Alfreton  -  2 very good games where the whole team played well.

Aldershot  -  could have won this game by half-time but for poor finishing, then LJL foolishly got himself sent off and we lost the game.

Welling  -  not a great performance but a win and helped by poor finishing from Welling.

Lincoln  -  played OK at times but again poor finishing possibly cost us the game.

Luck doesn't get you promoted.





All LJL's fault by the looks of things then.
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September 11, 2014, 7:20pm

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Before we all start to think the season is over already,

I am not bothered who is top of the league in September,

OR even December, it's who is top at the end of the season that counts,

We have the players who can perform they have shown that in the 2 big wins,

What we need is for them to be more consistant and maybe another striker in and we will be there,

Coming on here moaning about the manager and certain players after a defeat does not help at all,

We can do this , stick behind the team and the manager and I am sure our support will be rewarded.


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All LJL's fault by the looks of things then.


No certainly not, but many of us feel its a major factor whilst just as many think we cannot manage without him. Its a debate that will run and run whilst he remains at the club. What we have to do is back him during matches and restrict any negative views we may on him to postings on here.
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I agree wholeheartedly but I wouldn't even call them 'negative views'. They are observations of real events. Critical, but balanced comment if you like.

I think that LJL is a very important member of our squad and a player of considerable value in some games, but for the manager to make him the 'number one',  'auto-pick' striker and watch chance after chance squandered across dozens of games is both foolish and sickening. We would win so many more marginal points with a quality striker/more reliable finisher, and that's a stark and blindingly obvious fact.


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I agree wholeheartedly but I wouldn't even call them 'negative views'. They are observations of real events. Critical, but balanced comment if you like.

I think that LJL is a very important member of our squad and a player of considerable value in some games, but for the manager to make him the 'number one',  'auto-pick' striker and watch chance after chance squandered across dozens of games is both foolish and sickening. We would win so many more marginal points with a quality striker/more reliable finisher, and that's a stark and blindingly obvious fact.


My thoughts exactly.
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I don't know why Hurst get's stick for changing the team. The managers job is to put out the side that he thinks has the best chance of getting the required result against certain opposition. That is surely what a squad is for.

I won't give Hurst stick for altering teams and formations but what i will give him stick for, is not being very good at it. I also think he reacts too slowly when it's obvious that it's not working. I can't ever remember him making a half time substitution for instance, to change our shape or remove an under performing player.

He is a stubborn fooker and i think it will be his undoing.


Spot on.


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We've got a fantastic goal difference for a side that's won one more game than it has lost. Failure to convert chances in tight games will ultimately cost any team and that's why you need your fox-in-the-box. I'm not repeating what several including myself have said about Hurst or LJL but if we have such a great squad, we simply have to stop worrying about what other teams threats are and start to concentrate on what we can do to them.
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We've got a fantastic goal difference for a side that's won one more game than it has lost. Failure to convert chances in tight games will ultimately cost any team and that's why you need your fox-in-the-box. I'm not repeating what several including myself have said about Hurst or LJL but if we have such a great squad, we simply have to stop worrying about what other teams threats are and start to concentrate on what we can do to them.


I agree with that.


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