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Really? Lets take a ludicrously high figure of 1 in 10 walking zombie like under
the influence of drink or drugs - that would be in excess of 9000 people, even
with 10% percentage permanently 'out of their heads' that means 80 odd thousand
people who aren't - or aren't these folk 'decent' as well?
If you really mean that Marinerz i think you are very, very wrong.
I am not for one moment suggesting that Grimsby is some form of Northern Monte Carlo
we all know the areas where Cohens representation of the Town is probably a fair one but my point is that this is still a vast minority - i and tens of thousand of others have lived in this Town all of our lives and i consider myself extremely 'decent'. as i
am sure most others do and are..
All about opinions, but d'ont tar the majority with the brush of the small minority.
I wasn't saying the majority of this Town is off it's face or drunk, I said it seems to me that there is a larger percentage here from what I have seen in Grimsby compared to other Northern Towns. Years ago the decent people were the majority, not now, not from what I've seen. 80,000 decent people in GY, I'll have what ever your supping  , my guestimate is 45% of decent people left in this Town. |
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With respect, do you really believe the people of this country who haven't visited
Grimsby will really believe that Grimsby isn't how it is portrayed in the film? As a Town
we will be ridiculed to the point of offence, are we really worse than Scunthorpe and
dozens of other Northern Towns? IMO No..
I may well be naive but I just don't see what harm it will do. People with a bit of sense will realise it's a comedy and not a documentary. If it's a genuinely funny film that does well then it will be "good" for the town merely by association. |
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| Marinerz93 |
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You mention you work out of Boston,I lived there for 45 yrs and God knows which part of Boston you work from but from what I've seen and know it's a far worse town for Drugs and Tinnies and muggings than Grimsby will ever be. Boston/Spalding area have the third highest drug related deaths in the country (FACT). I have no fear of walking out at night in any part of Grimsby but there are several areas in Boston I would never venture after dark. I have friends living there and they never go out at night unless in their cars.Next time you work from boston just have a walk down Fydell street any time night and day,you will see more tinnies down that road alone than the the whole of Grimsby. I moved to Grimsby 7 years ago and don't regret it one bit.
When I told people I had moved to Grimsby,some said,what ever have you moved there for ,my answer was, have you ever been, most said no but the name Grimsby doesn't sound very nice,I will agree with that. My answer was don't knock it until you've visited.The ones that have visited us have been pleasantly surprised.We had the choice of moving to Grimsby or Nottingham and we chose Grimsby,no contest.
Never been down Fydell Street but many a lunch time in The Waterfront pub by the river, and working in that area, yes I saw a couple with tinnies. I'm usually heading home at 4pm so I'll take your word for how bad it is after dark. To be fair, Boston over the last few years has had to cope with an influx of undesirables that other countries were glad to see the back of. The illegal alcohol factory that exploded being one example. I know I used Boston to detail the area I cover but it isn't a Northern Town |
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I wasn't saying the majority of this Town is off it's face or drunk, I said it seems to me that there is a larger percentage here from what I have seen in Grimsby compared to other Northern Towns. Years ago the decent people were the majority, not now, not from what I've seen. 80,000 decent people in GY, I'll have what ever your supping , my guestimate is 45% of decent people left in this Town.
So 55% of the population aren't decent because you have seen some scumbags on your travels through the rougher parts of Grimsby? Well we will have to agree to differ on this one - if you really think that more than one in every 2 people isn't 'decent' you are doing a disservice to the people of Grimsby and its completely utterly untrue in my opinion. |
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I wasn't saying the majority of this Town is off it's face or drunk, I said it seems to me that there is a larger percentage here from what I have seen in Grimsby compared to other Northern Towns. Years ago the decent people were the majority, not now, not from what I've seen. 80,000 decent people in GY, I'll have what ever your supping , my guestimate is 45% of decent people left in this Town.
Let me make one final point ( i can hear the cheering) I'm not trying to suggest we have 80000 Mother Teresas in Grimsby, those 80000+ people have the same various shortcomings,failings and faults that everyone has, whether they live in Grimsby or Henley on Thames, it depends on your interpretation of decent, but i can tell you something, there is no way we have even the 10% of the population that i used as an example that spends their time permanently p!ssed ,drugged up to the eyeballs or behaving in the sort of way that Cohen is showing in his film. |
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Well i seem to remember Kazakhstan threatening Cohen with legal action and i think
it would be fair to say it had more of a negative impact on the image of that country
than a positive one, the damage that can be done is to the image of the Town, we have been tarred with a bad image (unfairly IMO) for decades and this will just make it worse.
It's OK for you basing yourself in Farsley, we who actually live in this Town will be the
butt of the inevitable jokes - i am a Grimbarian, born and bred and proud of it - sick
of the jokes about my birthplace, if i am being over sensitive then so be it, i d'ont expect everyone to agree, but its how i feel and just my opinion.
Wrong on Kazakhstan Peter. Tourism to Kazakhstan massively increased as a direct result of the film |
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I wasn't saying the majority of this Town is off it's face or drunk, I said it seems to me that there is a larger percentage here from what I have seen in Grimsby compared to other Northern Towns. Years ago the decent people were the majority, not now, not from what I've seen. 80,000 decent people in GY, I'll have what ever your supping , my guestimate is 45% of decent people left in this Town.
Really ,Just45% are "decent" ? so the majority arn't then . |
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Guessing from what you see on the streets is hardly an accurate way of measuring the quality of the townsfolk. For a start you will notice baseball capped chav arsing about, bottle of White Lightening in hand, but you don't notice Mrs Miggins on the way to the pie shop. Then there's the fact that during the day the majority of decent people are hard at work, and not dossing around on the street corner. Its like going in the hospital and saying 90% of the people in Grimsby are ill because that is all you can see.
I'm not saying Grimsby is perfect, but it isn't any different to any other big town or city. God knows I've worked in enough excrement holes, speaking of which, Hull certainly isn't any better.
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Wrong on Kazakhstan Peter. Tourism to Kazakhstan massively increased as a direct result of the film
Actually, Kazakhstan invested millions in its infrastructure, advertising and brand management to rectify/capitalise (take your pick) on the image presented by Sacha bc. Whether this forced investment will pay off, time will tell, currently I believe it's a net loss - but you can bet that Sacha bc's goal was not to help to regenerate that country - nor our town. Yes, Grimsby does have countless challenges to face, but I'm not comfortable with this comedian bringing them to the world's attention - there really IS such a thing as BAD publicity. However - since film is going ahead, our best response is to greet it with good humour, and to present positive aspects of the place. Even though sbc IS a cheeky f+++ing urine-taker. |
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I'm not saying Grimsby is perfect, but it isn't any different to any other big town or city. God knows I've worked in enough excrement holes, speaking of which, Hull certainly isn't any better.
This is exactly the point. It's a problem for England (the UK actually). Maybe it's part of the problem as to why the country's in such a social mess, we seem to have a trait of nasty sneeriness for anything outside of our 'patch'. Here in Lincoln I could show you some of the estates and Downhill areas as bad as anywhere else (lived off Sincil Bank just 10 years ago, the change down there is more than alarming), having a 'nice' area is always a big bonus for distracting this though. I like Baron Cohen's humour, it's sharp and keenly observed but this one already smacks of a bit of creative laziness...chav in an England top, let's base him in a Northern Town....hey, here's one that even has the word 'grim' in its name. I'll reserve judgement but I can see it only bringing negative thoughts of the town from people, on the whole, who know little of Grimsby in the first place. |
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Marinerz93
, my guestimate is 45% of decent people left in this Town.
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