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Abdul19
January 5, 2014, 9:37pm

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Is it that massive? Semi finals of the league cup, doing well in the Champions League and certainly not out of a top 4 finish (or qualify by winning the CL as Chelsea had to). Plus loads of injuries and hardly signed a "Moyes" player - and let's face it the squad Fergie left was probably  one of his worst. Quite a few home defeat but there are legions of fans willing to go to home games so it's not costing them anything in gate receipts.


I keep hearing it was a bad squad, but it was a squad that won the league by 10+ points. Moyes spent all summer signing no-one until he panicked and bought Fellaini for an inflated sum at 23.59 on the last day of the window.

It's also amusing to see Everton doing so well (and playing attacking football)


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I keep hearing it was a bad squad, but it was a squad that won the league by 10+ points. Moyes spent all summer signing no-one until he panicked and bought Fellaini for an inflated sum at 23.59 on the last day of the window.

It's also amusing to see Everton doing so well (and playing attacking football)


I think players like Vidic, Ferdinand and Evra are starting to show their age, declining rapidly.


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Quoted from GrimRob


Is it that massive? Semi finals of the league cup, doing well in the Champions League and certainly not out of a top 4 finish (or qualify by winning the CL as Chelsea had to). Plus loads of injuries and hardly signed a "Moyes" player - and let's face it the squad Fergie left was probably  one of his worst. Quite a few home defeat but there are legions of fans willing to go to home games so it's not costing them anything in gate receipts.


I think it is pretty massive. In the space of six months of Fergie retiring Old Trafford is no longer somewhere to be feared and they have lost that aura of invincibility about them. The squad he has inherited isn't very good but it did win the league quite easily last season so it can't be as poor as it has seemed all season. They aren't' out of a top 4 finish but they haven't really played well in any game yet this season so I think it is unlikely they'll make the top 4. As for having hardly any Moyes players, I'd suggest that's a blessing judging by the inflated price he paid for Fellaini and I'm not even sure Fellaini's best position is CM. He had all summer to buy players, everyone knew that their midfield needed strengthening but he did nothing of note.
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I wonder how long Moyes's job will be safe for?



Until Fergie decides to come out of retirement .


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David Moyes will be given time, just as Fergie was when he first went to Man Utd and struggled.

The difference is that Fergie had proved what a good manager he was by taking unfashionable Aberdeen all the way to European success and broke the Celtic Rangers dominance in Scotland. No mean feat.

Moyes on the other hand has won nothing and in 11 years at Everton, never once beat any of the top four on their own patch in over 40 attempts. I think he's over rated and a bad choice but time will tell.
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David Moyes will be given time, just as Fergie was when he first went to Man Utd and struggled.

The difference is that Fergie had proved what a good manager he was by taking unfashionable Aberdeen all the way to European success and broke the Celtic Rangers dominance in Scotland. No mean feat.

Moyes on the other hand has won nothing and in 11 years at Everton, never once beat any of the top four on their own patch in over 40 attempts. I think he's over rated and a bad choice but time will tell.


I reckon Fergie nominated Moyes purely on the basis that he's a Glaswegian. It's not as though his record is fantastic, no trophies in 10 years at Everton is pretty poor, they're not what you'd call a "small" club like Wigan who managed an FA cup win in that time.
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I reckon Fergie nominated Moyes purely on the basis that he's a Glaswegian. It's not as though his record is fantastic, no trophies in 10 years at Everton is pretty poor, they're not what you'd call a "small" club like Wigan who managed an FA cup win in that time.


Yeah, it's ironic that Martinez, who managed Wigan to a cup win is now at Everton and looks like he has taken them up a notch from where Moyes left them.

I think Utd should have gone for one of the more progressive thinking foreign managers. A club of their size and stature could have had their pick of Europes elite but stuck to the dour Scotsman model.

As successful as Fergie was, should he have been allowed to pick his successor?
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