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ExLeightonMariner
September 12, 2012, 10:54pm
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Yes he did blame the police due to the vast evidence proving their culpability in the events. The end wasn't full - there were big sections of empty space in the corner pens but the police continued to direct people to the hugely over-crowded middle section. The police weren't solely to blame but the fans have been proven not to be at fault.

If you're posting seriously and not on the wind up I suggest you do some basic research on what's been established about the events of that day as you're clearly extremely ignorant of it at the moment. You seem keen to stand up for the police. This is the same police who doctored 116 of 164 statements, who denied access to ambulances who could have saved potentially 40 lives due to 'fighting' that wasn't taking place, who deliberately engineered a narrative blaming Liverpool fans to cover their own culpability and who were completely unable to do the job they were employed to do that day and protect the people in that football ground.


I heard on the radio that there were 400,000 pieces of evidence, I didn't realise you'd read them all and come up with a solution that some of the finest legal minds in the country had been missed for 23 years.  Please accept my apologies.
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Gary Haddock
September 12, 2012, 10:57pm

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How is me mentioning that you think throwing money at people who lost their relatives is the answer? Sounds like you can't come up with a reasonable response, and no you didn't tread on my ego, I never even posted in that thread, i just thought you made yourself sound like a massive ego who gloats on forums to try and make himself feel superior.


Hate to stick up for exleightonmariner but he did bring up a reasonable response to this though he does seem arogant to the new evidance. There are sick and twisted people out there who would use such situations to claim compensation, but not in this case, they just want the truth to be known, and those responsible to be brought to justice.


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Rodley Mariner
September 12, 2012, 10:59pm
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Quoted from ExLeightonMariner


I heard on the radio that there were 400,000 pieces of evidence, I didn't realise you'd read them all and come up with a solution that some of the finest legal minds in the country had been missed for 23 years.  Please accept my apologies.


Surprisingly I haven't but the panel who've announced their findings today have and I'm informed by what they've announced. What are you basing your assertion that it was drunk, ticketless fans on? Aaron Rattray and Gary Haddock have easily grasped what's been announced today and you're struggling to do so. That should concern you.
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I am Um Bongo
September 12, 2012, 11:00pm
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Quoted from Gary Haddock


Hate to stick up for exleightonmariner but he did bring up a reasonable response to this though he does seem arogant to the new evidance. There are sick and twisted people out there who would use such situations to claim compensation, but not in this case, they just want the truth to be known, and those responsible to be brought to justice.


Justice shouldn't necessarily be reflected by financial gain in this sort of situation though, unless News International are forced to pay compensation for those effected by the blatant lies they published, which wouldn't be a bad thing at all.



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Gary Haddock
September 12, 2012, 11:03pm

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Justice shouldn't necessarily be reflected by financial gain in this sort of situation though, unless News International are forced to pay compensation for those effected by the blatant lies they published, which wouldn't be a bad thing at all.


I agree.


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Quoted from ExLeightonMariner


I heard on the radio that there were 400,000 pieces of evidence, I didn't realise you'd read them all and come up with a solution that some of the finest legal minds in the country had been missed for 23 years.  Please accept my apologies.


No, but the Hillsborough Independant Panel have, and they've even summed everything up for you in a report: http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/

I suggest you have a flick through that, or a newspaper tomorrow, and come back once you've got half an idea what you're talking about.
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No, but the Hillsborough Independant Panel have, and they've even summed everything up for you in a report: http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/

I suggest you have a flick through that, or a newspaper tomorrow, and come back once you've got half an idea what you're talking about.


If there was a like button, my pink feet would be pressing it right about now.



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police...who denied access to ambulances who could have saved potentially 40 lives due to 'fighting' that wasn't taking place,  


Can't get my head around that.  Should be able to, because I've seen something kind of vaguely similar on a much, much smaller scale, but I can't understand it in these circumstances.  There was no fighting at Hillsborough.  Just to stand and watch people die and deny them access to medical help that was there and available?






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It's depressing that even after today's comprehensive report there are still some idiots out there convinced Liverpool fans were to blame and we should just look the other way when faced with possibly the biggest cover-up this country has ever seen.

Honestly before I read a summary of the report today I thought the fans were at least partially at fault for the disaster. Now I know that is unequivocally not the case and my judgement was perverted by a disgusting establishment cover-up. Anyone with an ounce of sense should have the same realisation after today.


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16 police officers received in total £1.5 million in compensation
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