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LondonMariner43
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i have nothing to do with the Trust but I am delighted that they have agreed a solution with John Fenty that removes the highly worrying gridlock created by Mike Parker which could have ended in administration.

What a relief together with the Bennett money to have our future secure for two years.  How many clubs can say that?

With one or two Wembley appearances we could be in a great position financially.

The tide is turning for GTFC.

Why all the sniping on the sidelines?  If people don't like it, do they have money to buy out JF and takeover?
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Cue the idiots claiming that you are John Fenty. Good post!


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WHS

If one of us wins the Euromillions tonight, may be we can buy Mr Fenty out - but who's to say that we'd be any more popular, and make the right choices?

We should be grateful to Mr Fenty for the amount of his own money he has put into the club, and of course he should be entitled to a greater share holding in return.

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Sanity at last well done all above. He is a big fan like the rest of us. It just costs him more!! UTM


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IF I won the euro's I'd not buy Fenty out. I'd say here is £1million and at the end of the season a further £1million towards keeping the players and adding 1 or 2 quality additions... all I'd want in return is to go where I like when I like at home games. All I'd do is go in the Main stand with my grandad until kick off then go in the Ponny though  
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Quoted from LondonMariner43
i have nothing to do with the Trust but I am delighted that they have agreed a solution with John Fenty that removes the highly worrying gridlock created by Mike Parker which could have ended in administration.

What a relief together with the Bennett money to have our future secure for two years.  How many clubs can say that?

With one or two Wembley appearances we could be in a great position financially.

The tide is turning for GTFC.

Why all the sniping on the sidelines?  If people don't like it, do they have money to buy out JF and takeover?


Your basis for that comment is?  To the best of my knowledge investing £1m in a failing business might have just added to the chances of avoiding administration?


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IF I won the euro's I'd not buy Fenty out. I'd say here is £1million and at the end of the season a further £1million towards keeping the players and adding 1 or 2 quality additions... all I'd want in return is to go where I like when I like at home games. All I'd do is go in the Main stand with my grandad until kick off then go in the Ponny though  


I've had this dream countless times but my approach would be slightly different because JF is correct that the burden needs to be spread.  I'd therefore ask him if he would agree to writing down all of his loans in return for a 'gift' to the club of an equal amount from my winnings, with the only caveat being that no share dividend be paid for 5 years, to ensure that the money stayed in the club.  I wouldn't want to run the club because I simply don't have the ability.  Despite his mistakes he has the experience and starting from a 'clean' position and with the right person doing the day to day stuff I think he'd maximise the clubs potential.


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Your basis for that comment is?  To the best of my knowledge investing £1m in a failing business might have just added to the chances of avoiding administration?


The bottom line is that he walked away for no reason other than Mr Furneaux being on the board (and he was leaving at the end of the season anyway). Yes he invested £1 million but his childish and petulant antics have created instability. If it wasn't for the takeover panel then I think this feud between Parker and the board would have continued as he probably wouldn't have gifted the shares to the Trust if it wasn't for the investigation.

Thanks for the £1 million Mr Parker, but in hindsight bringing you to the club was a bad move. He was also the deciding factor in appointing Neil Woods over Russell Slade. That just sums it up for me.


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The bottom line is that he walked away for no reason other than Mr Furneaux being on the board (and he was leaving at the end of the season anyway). Yes he invested £1 million but his childish and petulant antics have created instability. If it wasn't for the takeover panel then I think this feud between Parker and the board would have continued as he probably wouldn't have gifted the shares to the Trust if it wasn't for the investigation.

Thanks for the £1 million Mr Parker, but in hindsight bringing you to the club was a bad move. He was also the deciding factor in appointing Neil Woods over Russell Slade. That just sums it up for me.


I wasn't present at any of the meetings between JF and MP so I have to form my opinions from official statements.  You clearly were at these meetings so I bow to your superior knowledge.


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The bottom line is that he walked away for no reason other than Mr Furneaux being on the board (and he was leaving at the end of the season anyway). Yes he invested £1 million but his childish and petulant antics have created instability. If it wasn't for the takeover panel then I think this feud between Parker and the board would have continued as he probably wouldn't have gifted the shares to the Trust if it wasn't for the investigation.

Thanks for the £1 million Mr Parker, but in hindsight bringing you to the club was a bad move. He was also the deciding factor in appointing Neil Woods over Russell Slade. That just sums it up for me.


It must be great to listen to just one side of every story. You are a propagandists dream. None of what you mentioned above has ever been substantiated and most of it is rumour and conjecture.


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It must be great to listen to just one side of every story. You are a propagandists dream. None of what you mentioned above has ever been substantiated and most of it is rumour and conjecture.


At least I tried the sarcastic approach.  You just steamed in with your size 12's  


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I wasn't present at any of the meetings between JF and MP so I have to form my opinions from official statements.  You clearly were at these meetings so I bow to your superior knowledge.


Who said anything about meetings? There weren't any as Mike Parker completely refused to have any meetings or have any contact with Fenty. I pretty sure it's common knowledge that that's the main reason why he left. From what MP said on Look North and his interview on RH. Fenty also said himself. Were you thinking up sarcastic comments when this all happened?


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Furneaux also stood down quite soon after!


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FFS, without the £1m Parker put in, IMHO, we wouldn't have a club.

Hopefully, at some point in my life, I'll be able to support a Fenty-free GTFC but until then . . .


Former lover of all things GTFC . . .
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Who said anything about meetings? There weren't any as Mike Parker completely refused to have any meetings or have any contact with Fenty. I pretty sure it's common knowledge that that's the main reason why he left. From what MP said on Look North and his interview on RH. Fenty also said himself. Were you thinking up sarcastic comments when this all happened?


Bloody Hell, there you go again. Common Knowledge???? and where did this knowledge come from?



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The bottom line is that he walked away for no reason other than Mr Furneaux being on the board (and he was leaving at the end of the season anyway). Yes he invested £1 million but his childish and petulant antics have created instability. If it wasn't for the takeover panel then I think this feud between Parker and the board would have continued as he probably wouldn't have gifted the shares to the Trust if it wasn't for the investigation.

Thanks for the £1 million Mr Parker, but in hindsight bringing you to the club was a bad move. He was also the deciding factor in appointing Neil Woods over Russell Slade. That just sums it up for me.
could not of put that better myself, so if you look at the woods appointment and how much he spent on over egsagerated wages, loan players and journey men, thats parkers money gone, fenty still backed parker on all these desissions and took all the flack, he is still backing the club and willing to invest more money, all he is protecting is himself being kicked out of office by the trust and parker.

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FFS, without the £1m Parker put in, IMHO, we wouldn't have a club.

Hopefully, at some point in my life, I'll be able to support a Fenty-free GTFC but until then . . .


Without Fenty prior to this, MP wouldn't have had anything to put into!


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Furneaux also stood down quite soon after!


Yet Parker didn't come back. You would have thought he would if he only left because Furneaux was on the board.


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It must be great to listen to just one side of every story. You are a propagandists dream. None of what you mentioned above has ever been substantiated and most of it is rumour and conjecture.


As opposed to dreaming up conspiracy theories against JF? Jog on mate.


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Yet Parker didn't come back. You would have thought he would if he only left because Furneaux was on the board.


Well clearly that shows that they tried to do something about it. Surely that says more about MP than anything else? Just shows how much he cares about GTFC.


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Without Fenty prior to this, MP wouldn't have had anything to put into!


Without Fenty putting together ridiculous budgets, making bad managerial choices, and paying off various players and managers Fenty himself wouldn't have had to put in the amount of money he has LOANED the club.
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Who said anything about meetings? There weren't any as Mike Parker completely refused to have any meetings or have any contact with Fenty. I pretty sure it's common knowledge that that's the main reason why he left. From what MP said on Look North and his interview on RH. Fenty also said himself. Were you thinking up sarcastic comments when this all happened?


Oh so you're actually speculating then, you know, I would never have guessed.  Look, neither of us really know the reason behind Mike Parkers decision or indeed even if it was his decision.  Take a look at what JF is currently trying to get the trust to do and then perhaps you'll realise that he tends to deal the odd one from the back of his hand.  I have absolutely no issue with anyone having a different opinion to mine and to be honest if I'm wrong I always hold my hand up.  On this occasion I'm not siding with either party, but you are.  I simply quoted a fact, you didn't, that's fine but don't assume that anyone who disagrees with you is an 'idiot'....... unless you can support your statement with a fact!


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As opposed to dreaming up conspiracy theories against JF? Jog on mate.


i have a theory that fenty tried to shaft parker buy forcing him to buy the club but yet still maintaining his hold over the club with his benign loans,just a theory like
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i'm absolutely horrified that people fall for fenty's spin time and time again
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i'm absolutely horrified that people fall for fenty's spin time and time again


was it you who said just sign the cheques but dont make any relevant decisions
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i'm absolutely horrified that people fall for fenty's spin time and time again


What spin? Its fairly clear to me that this will benefit all sides for the long term future of GTFC. Isn't that what we all want. Your horrified at what exactly?  Options have you?  

Come on Denby give JF and the Trust some credit for getting this far. The vote gets a YES from me because these two parties have agreed in principle and require the members to rubberstamp it so we can all look forward to a brighter future.

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was it you who said just sign the cheques but dont make any relevant decisions


i don't think so, but i don't understand your post
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i'm absolutely horrified that people fall for fenty's spin time and time again
what spin you tube, have you met him, do you know him, he is one of the most honourable men i have come across, if you do buisness with him and shake his hand you can take it to the bank.

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What spin? Its fairly clear to me that this will benefit all sides for the long term future of GTFC. Isn't that what we all want. Your horrified at what exactly?  Options have you?  

Come on Denby give JF and the Trust some credit for getting this far. The vote gets a YES from me because these two parties have agreed in principle and require the members to rubberstamp it so we can all look forward to a brighter future.

Up The Mariners.


Long Term?? 2013 is next year.


Patient : Have you found a cure Doctor.
Doctor: Yes. Take one of these tablets every day for the rest of your life.
Patient: Oh thank you doctor. Hang on theres only 12 tablets in here.



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what spin you tube, have you met him, do you know him, he is one of the most honourable men i have come across, if you do buisness with him and shake his hand you can take it to the bank.



That's great, what will the trust be taking to the bank in exchange for 40% of their shares?


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what spin you tube, have you met him, do you know him, he is one of the most honourable men i have come across, if you do buisness with him and shake his hand you can take it to the bank.



i could blow that out of the water but due to legal reasons i wont,well not yet anyway
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What spin? Its fairly clear to me that this will benefit all sides for the long term future of GTFC. Isn't that what we all want. Your horrified at what exactly?  Options have you?  

Come on Denby give JF and the Trust some credit for getting this far. The vote gets a YES from me because these two parties have agreed in principle and require the members to rubberstamp it so we can all look forward to a brighter future.

Up The Mariners.


fenty is attempting to tell the trust who can and can't pool their shares within the trust, this doesn't seem right to me

why do the trust board "feel" that the actual timing of the bennett money is uncertain, why don't they know, it's pretty damn important
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Long Term?? 2013 is next year.


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Patient: Oh thank you doctor. Hang on theres only 12 tablets in here.



Quality!!  


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That's great, what will the trust be taking to the bank in exchange for 40% of their shares?
the fact that we still have a football club to move forward with and by the way 40% of fcuk all is nowt.

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Yeah. Give me this, give me that cos if you don't bad things might happen. Honourable, look it up in a dictionary along with buisness (sic)i can drive a tractor,ooh arr



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the fact that we still have a football club to move forward with and by the way 40% of fcuk all is nowt.



We had a football club before JF arrived on the scene, a very successful one lest you forget.  We will still have a football club long after he's gone.  Let me explain something to you.  I have 3 children, each of which costs me an absolute fortune.  I'm comfortable with that because that's my investment in their future.  No great shakes there from me, nothing special, I'm simply doing what all parents do.  One thing I'll never do though is 'over-speculate' on luxurys that I can't really afford, neither will I take risks or gambles unless the odds are hugely in my favour and even then I'll have a contingency in case the worst were to happen.  That said if I did put my family unit at risk because of my poor decisions or gambles I wouldn't expect them to hand over their precious gifts from Nanna when I could just as easily sell one of my cars.

I hope that makes sense to you.


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i could blow that out of the water but due to legal reasons i wont,well not yet anyway
you couldn,t blow a bubble, not yet anyway, what do you mean by that, i will keep buying the GET now to see what happens daperz

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Oh so you're actually speculating then, you know, I would never have guessed.  Look, neither of us really know the reason behind Mike Parkers decision or indeed even if it was his decision.  Take a look at what JF is currently trying to get the trust to do and then perhaps you'll realise that he tends to deal the odd one from the back of his hand.  I have absolutely no issue with anyone having a different opinion to mine and to be honest if I'm wrong I always hold my hand up.  On this occasion I'm not siding with either party, but you are.  I simply quoted a fact, you didn't, that's fine but don't assume that anyone who disagrees with you is an 'idiot'....... unless you can support your statement with a fact!


No, I'm not speculating I'm going by what Mike Parker said directly to Radio Humberside and Look North. The reasons he stated for leaving was that he was unhappy with the set-up of the board of directors at GTFC, therefore he resigned. I would trawl through various archives but I'm pretty sure someone switched on with verify. At no point did Parker say 'The reason I left was because of John Fenty' at all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/g/grimsby_town/9410893.stm Here's a link that pretty much sums up Mike Parker's view. The problem wasn't John Fenty it was the board as a whole. And before anyone says 'John Fenty wouldn't change for Mike Parker' etc etc, this decision is made by the board as a whole not soley by John Fenty. In fact Fenty said himself that he actually voted with Mike Parker on this issue. As I mentioned previously the departure of Furneaux soon after showed a willingness from the board to reconcile with Mike Parker which wasn't matched by he himself.

At no point have I personally attacked anyone for a differing opinion, just the people who speculate themselves and come up with these theories about Fenty and his motives. People seem to forget that he is a fan of the club and wants to work forward towards a better future. Of course John has made some bad decisions and he has been personally attacked for the appointment of Neil Woods when it was a majority board decision.

With regards to the whole Mariners Trust situation, I don't think Fenty is trying to shaft them, he wants security. He's willing to match the £200,000 from the Trust from his own back pocket which is fair enough. It's not like he's demanding the Trust transfer all the shares over to him, all he wants is security which most people would agree is fair enough. The Trust would remain significant Shareholders in GTFC, enough to make a difference. Fenty has also considered the idea of the Trust gaining a seat on the board of directors, and I'm pretty confident that this will happen in the near future. You'll have to ask the Trust themselves what the situation is.

With regards to your comment about 'siding', you're are correct in that respect. I'm siding with a man who hasn't left GTFC over petty disputes and  man who has continuously put his hand in his pocket for this club. I feel that if we are to move on as a club we should put our differences aside and support the current regime because at this stage there is no alternative.


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So he never said it was Furneaux then did he?


So here I am once more in the playground of the broken hearts
One more experience, one more entry in a diary, self-penned
Yet another emotional suicide overdosed on sentiment and pride
Too late to say I love you, too late to re-stage the play
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No, I'm not speculating I'm going by what Mike Parker said directly to Radio Humberside and Look North. The reasons he stated for leaving was that he was unhappy with the set-up of the board of directors at GTFC, therefore he resigned. I would trawl through various archives but I'm pretty sure someone switched on with verify. At no point did Parker say 'The reason I left was because of John Fenty' at all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/g/grimsby_town/9410893.stm Here's a link that pretty much sums up Mike Parker's view. The problem wasn't John Fenty it was the board as a whole. And before anyone says 'John Fenty wouldn't change for Mike Parker' etc etc, this decision is made by the board as a whole not soley by John Fenty. In fact Fenty said himself that he actually voted with Mike Parker on this issue. As I mentioned previously the departure of Furneaux soon after showed a willingness from the board to reconcile with Mike Parker which wasn't matched by he himself.

At no point have I personally attacked anyone for a differing opinion, just the people who speculate themselves and come up with these theories about Fenty and his motives. People seem to forget that he is a fan of the club and wants to work forward towards a better future. Of course John has made some bad decisions and he has been personally attacked for the appointment of Neil Woods when it was a majority board decision.

With regards to the whole Mariners Trust situation, I don't think Fenty is trying to shaft them, he wants security. He's willing to match the £200,000 from the Trust from his own back pocket which is fair enough. It's not like he's demanding the Trust transfer all the shares over to him, all he wants is security which most people would agree is fair enough. The Trust would remain significant Shareholders in GTFC, enough to make a difference. Fenty has also considered the idea of the Trust gaining a seat on the board of directors, and I'm pretty confident that this will happen in the near future. You'll have to ask the Trust themselves what the situation is.

With regards to your comment about 'siding', you're are correct in that respect. I'm siding with a man who hasn't left GTFC over petty disputes and  man who has continuously put his hand in his pocket for this club. I feel that if we are to move on as a club we should put our differences aside and support the current regime because at this stage there is no alternative.


I'm not going to argue with any of that.  


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No, I'm not speculating I'm going by what Mike Parker said directly to Radio Humberside and Look North. The reasons he stated for leaving was that he was unhappy with the set-up of the board of directors at GTFC, therefore he resigned. I would trawl through various archives but I'm pretty sure someone switched on with verify. At no point did Parker say 'The reason I left was because of John Fenty' at all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/g/grimsby_town/9410893.stm Here's a link that pretty much sums up Mike Parker's view. The problem wasn't John Fenty it was the board as a whole. And before anyone says 'John Fenty wouldn't change for Mike Parker' etc etc, this decision is made by the board as a whole not soley by John Fenty. In fact Fenty said himself that he actually voted with Mike Parker on this issue. As I mentioned previously the departure of Furneaux soon after showed a willingness from the board to reconcile with Mike Parker which wasn't matched by he himself.

At no point have I personally attacked anyone for a differing opinion, just the people who speculate themselves and come up with these theories about Fenty and his motives. People seem to forget that he is a fan of the club and wants to work forward towards a better future. Of course John has made some bad decisions and he has been personally attacked for the appointment of Neil Woods when it was a majority board decision.

With regards to the whole Mariners Trust situation, I don't think Fenty is trying to shaft them, he wants security. He's willing to match the £200,000 from the Trust from his own back pocket which is fair enough. It's not like he's demanding the Trust transfer all the shares over to him, all he wants is security which most people would agree is fair enough. The Trust would remain significant Shareholders in GTFC, enough to make a difference. Fenty has also considered the idea of the Trust gaining a seat on the board of directors, and I'm pretty confident that this will happen in the near future. You'll have to ask the Trust themselves what the situation is.

With regards to your comment about 'siding', you're are correct in that respect. I'm siding with a man who hasn't left GTFC over petty disputes and  man who has continuously put his hand in his pocket for this club. I feel that if we are to move on as a club we should put our differences aside and support the current regime because at this stage there is no alternative.


Very well put.  Roll on 5th March so we can all move on.

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So he never said it was Furneaux then did he?


It was because of the structure of the board which involved Furneaux as he was entitled to an equal vote.


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what spin you tube, have you met him, do you know him, he is one of the most honourable men i have come across, if you do buisness with him and shake his hand you can take it to the bank.



hi john!!
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We had a football club before JF arrived on the scene, a very successful one lest you forget.  We will still have a football club long after he's gone.  Let me explain something to you.  I have 3 children, each of which costs me an absolute fortune.  I'm comfortable with that because that's my investment in their future.  No great shakes there from me, nothing special, I'm simply doing what all parents do.  One thing I'll never do though is 'over-speculate' on luxurys that I can't really afford, neither will I take risks or gambles unless the odds are hugely in my favour and even then I'll have a contingency in case the worst were to happen.  That said if I did put my family unit at risk because of my poor decisions or gambles I wouldn't expect them to hand over their precious gifts from Nanna when I could just as easily sell one of my cars.

I hope that makes sense to you.
no you dont make any sence what so ever, life is a big risk my friend, i have three children like your good self, that was a risk, i also have several cars driving them is a risk,fenty can quite clearly affoard what i think you are calling a luxury, but he wants control over that luxury, he has the continency plan, do we or do the trust have one.

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no you dont make any sence what so ever, life is a big risk my friend, i have three children like your good self, that was a risk, i also have several cars driving them is a risk,fenty can quite clearly affoard what i think you are calling a luxury, but he wants control over that luxury, he has the continency plan, do we or do the trust have one.



Yes I know he has a contingency plan, up until a couple of weeks ago that contingency plan was no more funding beyond February.  His luck has suddenly changed on the field and off, this really isn't the time for him to be pressing his own personal agenda.  The club has it's best chance of success for a good number of years, why can't he just sit back and enjoy the ride!


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Yes I know he has a contingency plan, up until a couple of weeks ago that contingency plan was no more funding beyond February.  His luck has suddenly changed on the field and off, this really isn't the time for him to be pressing his own personal agenda.  The club has it's best chance of success for a good number of years, why can't he just sit back and enjoy the ride!


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No, I'm not speculating I'm going by what Mike Parker said directly to Radio Humberside and Look North. The reasons he stated for leaving was that he was unhappy with the set-up of the board of directors at GTFC, therefore he resigned. I would trawl through various archives but I'm pretty sure someone switched on with verify. At no point did Parker say 'The reason I left was because of John Fenty' at all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/g/grimsby_town/9410893.stm Here's a link that pretty much sums up Mike Parker's view. The problem wasn't John Fenty it was the board as a whole. And before anyone says 'John Fenty wouldn't change for Mike Parker' etc etc, this decision is made by the board as a whole not soley by John Fenty. In fact Fenty said himself that he actually voted with Mike Parker on this issue. As I mentioned previously the departure of Furneaux soon after showed a willingness from the board to reconcile with Mike Parker which wasn't matched by he himself.

At no point have I personally attacked anyone for a differing opinion, just the people who speculate themselves and come up with these theories about Fenty and his motives. People seem to forget that he is a fan of the club and wants to work forward towards a better future. Of course John has made some bad decisions and he has been personally attacked for the appointment of Neil Woods when it was a majority board decision.

With regards to the whole Mariners Trust situation, I don't think Fenty is trying to shaft them, he wants security. He's willing to match the £200,000 from the Trust from his own back pocket which is fair enough. It's not like he's demanding the Trust transfer all the shares over to him, all he wants is security which most people would agree is fair enough. The Trust would remain significant Shareholders in GTFC, enough to make a difference. Fenty has also considered the idea of the Trust gaining a seat on the board of directors, and I'm pretty confident that this will happen in the near future. You'll have to ask the Trust themselves what the situation is.

With regards to your comment about 'siding', you're are correct in that respect. I'm siding with a man who hasn't left GTFC over petty disputes and  man who has continuously put his hand in his pocket for this club. I feel that if we are to move on as a club we should put our differences aside and support the current regime because at this stage there is no alternative.


I was travelling over to Grimsby listening to his interview and I am positive one of Mike Parker's complaints was that he had agreed with JF that they would both put an extra £500,000 in a share purchase which MP did but JF didn't he advanced it as a further loan.


Secondly as regards being a petty dispute you are quite right the fact that someone who has invested £1 million pounds in shares can be out voted by someone with just about fwckall invested is quite clearly petty, also the fact that he was prevented from making changes to the boardroom that had dragged this club from the Division One as it was then to Non League, why would someone want to do that?
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I was travelling over to Grimsby listening to his interview and I am positive one of Mike Parker's complaints was that he had agreed with JF that they would both put an extra £500,000 in a share purchase which MP did but JF didn't he advanced it as a further loan.


Secondly as regards being a petty dispute you are quite right the fact that someone who has invested £1 million pounds in shares can be out voted by someone with just about fwckall invested is quite clearly petty, also the fact that he was prevented from making changes to the boardroom that had dragged this club from the Division One as it was then to Non League, why would someone want to do that?


I had to laugh a that bit about parker being petty ffs the guy puts a fortune into the club
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Cue the idiots claiming that you are John Fenty. Good post!



Sometimes, when people call a poster John (Fenty), it's with good reason!  
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could not of put that better myself, so if you look at the woods appointment and how much he spent on over egsagerated wages, loan players and journey men, thats parkers money gone, fenty still backed parker on all these desissions and took all the flack, he is still backing the club and willing to invest more money, all he is protecting is himself being kicked out of office by the trust and parker.




balderdash, not having that. I refuse to believe Woods set wages, transfer fees or anything else related to transfers. That is down to the Chief Executive and The Board.

Any Chairman/Board giving control of a budget to a Football Manager isn't fit to be running the company IMO.
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i have nothing to do with the Trust but I am delighted that they have agreed a solution with John Fenty that removes the highly worrying gridlock created by Mike Parker which could have ended in administration.

What a relief together with the Bennett money to have our future secure for two years.  How many clubs can say that?

With one or two Wembley appearances we could be in a great position financially.

The tide is turning for GTFC.

Why all the sniping on the sidelines?  If people don't like it, do they have the money to buy out JF and takeover?


here here!

those that disagree with the Trust's actions probably believe that they have the cures for the common cold and every other human ailment, a solution to the Israeli/Palestinian question, an answer to the world's energy crisis, the means to end world poverty and suffering. With such self-confidence surely means in their world view that sorting out GTFC's financials will only prove just slightly more taxing.

Bring on these fine intelligentsia with their life-changing sweeping statements!

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here here!

those that disagree with the Trust's actions probably believe that they have the cures for the common cold and every other human ailment, a solution to the Israeli/Palestinian question, an answer to the world's energy crisis, the means to end world poverty and suffering. With such self-confidence surely means in their world view that sorting out GTFC's financials will only prove just slightly more taxing.

Bring on these fine intelligentsia with their life-changing sweeping statements!


oh the fu(king irony!

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oh the fu(king irony!



oh indeed ! your contribution is so eloquently just so.

thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Yes I know he has a contingency plan, up until a couple of weeks ago that contingency plan was no more funding beyond February.  His luck has suddenly changed on the field and off, this really isn't the time for him to be pressing his own personal agenda.  The club has it's best chance of success for a good number of years, why can't he just sit back and enjoy the ride!
because parker and the trust can kick him out of office, just like yourself, he gambles with a air of certanty, just like you have said, you would only gamble if the odds are stacked in your favour, so please stop being hipicritical and slagging him off when quite clearly if you was in his shoes you would do exactly the same, give the lad a chance and support him and the good cause GTFC

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balderdash, not having that. I refuse to believe Woods set wages, transfer fees or anything else related to transfers. That is down to the Chief Executive and The Board.

Any Chairman/Board giving control of a budget to a Football Manager isn't fit to be running the company IMO.
your dead right Chris, but if a manager says he wants a certain player, the board, get the player for the manager at the best deal they can, it just so happens woods and parker a) wansn,t good at picking players and b) wasn,t good at getting players on the right wage stucture, you only have to look at what we have ofloaded since they departed the club.

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your dead right Chris, but if a manager says he wants a certain player, the board, get the player for the manager at the best deal they can, it just so happens woods and parker a) wansn,t good at picking players and b) wasn,t good at getting players on the right wage stucture, you only have to look at what we have ofloaded since they departed the club.




Can you then clarify that what you are saying is that Mike Parker was responsible and/or involved with team selections and player scouting?

Id be very interested to hear Mr Parker's take on all of this. I'm sure one day he'll break his silence. Not that it matters now. What matters is that GTFC regains its FL status ASAP.
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No, I'm not speculating I'm going by what Mike Parker said directly to Radio Humberside and Look North. The reasons he stated for leaving was that he was unhappy with the set-up of the board of directors at GTFC, therefore he resigned. I would trawl through various archives but I'm pretty sure someone switched on with verify. At no point did Parker say 'The reason I left was because of John Fenty' at all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/g/grimsby_town/9410893.stm Here's a link that pretty much sums up Mike Parker's view. The problem wasn't John Fenty it was the board as a whole. And before anyone says 'John Fenty wouldn't change for Mike Parker' etc etc, this decision is made by the board as a whole not soley by John Fenty. In fact Fenty said himself that he actually voted with Mike Parker on this issue. As I mentioned previously the departure of Furneaux soon after showed a willingness from the board to reconcile with Mike Parker which wasn't matched by he himself.

At no point have I personally attacked anyone for a differing opinion, just the people who speculate themselves and come up with these theories about Fenty and his motives. People seem to forget that he is a fan of the club and wants to work forward towards a better future. Of course John has made some bad decisions and he has been personally attacked for the appointment of Neil Woods when it was a majority board decision.

With regards to the whole Mariners Trust situation, I don't think Fenty is trying to shaft them, he wants security. He's willing to match the £200,000 from the Trust from his own back pocket which is fair enough. It's not like he's demanding the Trust transfer all the shares over to him, all he wants is security which most people would agree is fair enough. The Trust would remain significant Shareholders in GTFC, enough to make a difference. Fenty has also considered the idea of the Trust gaining a seat on the board of directors, and I'm pretty confident that this will happen in the near future. You'll have to ask the Trust themselves what the situation is.

With regards to your comment about 'siding', you're are correct in that respect. I'm siding with a man who hasn't left GTFC over petty disputes and  man who has continuously put his hand in his pocket for this club. I feel that if we are to move on as a club we should put our differences aside and support the current regime because at this stage there is no alternative.


From what I hear, Fenty was willing to hand over control to Parker, and it was Furneaux who blocked it.


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because parker and the trust can kick him out of office, just like yourself, he gambles with a air of certanty, just like you have said, you would only gamble if the odds are stacked in your favour, so please stop being hipicritical and slagging him off when quite clearly if you was in his shoes you would do exactly the same, give the lad a chance and support him and the good cause GTFC



I don't think I'm guilty of slagging him off, if John feels differently then he's welcome to pm me with his concerns.  I don't have a personal agenda with John, he operates way out of my league but we do have a common interest, GTFC.


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Can you then clarify that what you are saying is that Mike Parker was responsible and/or involved with team selections and player scouting?

Id be very interested to hear Mr Parker's take on all of this. I'm sure one day he'll break his silence. Not that it matters now. What matters is that GTFC regains its FL status ASAP.


My pal as worked with mike parker for over twenty yrs at slightly a lower level but nether less knows him very well , i asked him what kind of guy is he? The words he used where genuine , trustworthy, honest, hardworking and definately not up his own bottom !! So i can only assume posters like sqeekme are male masturbators
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