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has the b&b landlady been paid then?
Mark Cooper is a creditor I believe. |
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| Grantham_Mariner |
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Pheonix clubs are not an option, the circumstances behind the formation of AFC Wimbledon are unique. Ask yourself if you would support AFC Grimsby or even Grimsby Borough if Town were liquidated because Fenty called in his loans. Its not the same club, could your feelings ever be the same.
Good luck Quakerz, I for one hope Darlo survive.
All right then, Accy Stanley, Barrow AFC, Newport County and so on are better examples. It sounds like the likely outcome will be another owner with plans to carry on the same and try and make money out of your stadium, which I am sorry to say will not work. He will get fed up in 18 months or so and pull the plug. The proposal to move to a ‘Community Stadium’ and sell develops your current ‘White Elephant’ I believe is your only way forward if you are to carry on. But your Council will not play ball! |
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| Coley Surfer |
| January 30, 2012, 12:56pm |
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I felt sorry for Darlo the first time they went into admin, the second time really annoyed me because we all heard how you laughed at the points deductions when you were safe. So excuse me for not giving two craps about how you went into admin for a 3rd time. You want a hardship story you should have been a Town fan for the last decade, ITV going balls up and the FA shrugging their shoulders. We were promised a set amount and when they didn't come forward we were left with Championship wages, the players got paid but the taxman didn't. We agreed to pay that back over an agreed time and what was left cost us with the quality of players and managers we could afford. We paid the taxman back, every penny and the only debt we have is to JF. Our debt has been run up by the Chairman who has saddled the club with his hiring and firing of a manager a season every season for the last 5 seasons and paying off crap players. He has tied up the clubs assets with that benign debt so if our club was to go bang he'd get something back. We owe to one man not the same as yourselves with countless people now out of pocket FFS 
Does it matter that we only owe to one person and not lots? If Fenty were to demand his money back tomorrow we'd be in a far worse state than Darlo. ITV Digitals collapse didn't just affect us, it affected every league club including Darlo. |
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But why did we owe it - I forget the history but wasn't the source of that money problem that we were more adversely affected by the collapse of ITV Digital than most other clubs because we so heavily relied on that TV income we had already spent what never got paid? Hardly malign debt. (Forgive me if that's factually incorrect - can't be bothered to research the archives.) Where HMRC is concerned I thought they usually negotiate on things like this - and allow a business to run.
Shock Horror you mean we spent money we didn't have? We should have been liquidated. surely. Good job we didn't try to loan any players eh? We paid for players we couldn't afford, simple as, now another team tries to do it and we cry foul. |
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One more experience, one more entry in a diary, self-penned
Yet another emotional suicide overdosed on sentiment and pride
Too late to say I love you, too late to re-stage the play
Abandoning the relics in my playground of yesterday |
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All right then, Accy Stanley, Barrow AFC, Newport County and so on are better examples.
It sounds like the likely outcome will be another owner with plans to carry on the same and try and make money out of your stadium, which I am sorry to say will not work. He will get fed up in 18 months or so and pull the plug.
The proposal to move to a ‘Community Stadium’ and sell develops your current ‘White Elephant’ I believe is your only way forward if you are to carry on. But your Council will not play ball!
also, and poss the best example is aldershot |
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Shock Horror you mean we spent money we didn't have? We should have been liquidated. surely. Good job we didn't try to loan any players eh? We paid for players we couldn't afford, simple as, now another team tries to do it and we cry foul.
No I don't think we should have been liquidated. We spent money that we were banking on and that in theory was contractually owed to us (although do I recall the League muppets never got the contract signed?) - The ITV Digital collapse and what happened to clubs like us was morally bankrupt - in those circumstances HMRC and other creditors are going to be sympathetic. Okay so you can argue about our imprudent spending - but who'd a thought an ITV project would go mammaries up. Nobody. I don't think we should be ashamed of spending during that debt crisis. Arguably that debt has plagued us ever since and Fenty still hasn't rolled us in to admin. |
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Because he didn't want to.
You lost 900k in the last accounting period, that cannot be all down to ITV digital.
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Because he didn't want to.
You lost 900k in the last accounting period, that cannot be all down to ITV digital.
Yes, but it was budgeted for (Mr Fenty had agreed the figure at the start of the season and said he would fund it), your Chairman did not budget for your debts or promised to fund them! Just pulled the plug! |
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Yes, but it was budgeted for (Mr Fenty had agreed the figure at the start of the season and said he would fund it), your Chairman did not budget for your debts or promised to fund them! Just pulled the plug!
I'm fully aware of that. You are not ran within your "real" means like we aren't. |
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