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| December 15, 2010, 2:00pm |
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Surely it depends on how he 'pushed through the stewards' and the behaviour he showed at the same time.
Also if he was encouraging people to enter the pitch then he may have been viewed as an orchestrator resulting in a larger sentence than the normal pitch encroachment.
That's fair enough, like I said I don't know the full details. I just think that it's an OTT reaction, given the facts presented in the article. |
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If Newport win it b4 heir vist to BP, I will sit in The Osmond dressed as Little Bo-Peep for the match against them! 
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| Paddymariner |
| December 15, 2010, 2:22pm |
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Sorry, are people defending the students?
Students are some of the most annoying people on the planet, they tend to be self-absorbed, pretentious and even worst than that, socialists.
They're all over the media at the minute (in particular that ...great lover of socialism the BBC) whining about how hard done by they are. They bang on about education being their "right" and yes, they are almost correct but while they have the right to education further education ie: college or university is not a right.
Our little piece of the world is in the sh*t, Public services are being cut, the police force, the NHS, the fire service are facing cuts, the MOD are having MASSIVE cuts, the Nimrod's have been mothballed, the harriers retired early arc royal is now scrap metal. What makes the students think that they should be saved from cuts or that they shouldn't have any sort of austerity measures like the rest of us face?
Even if I did support their cause (which, blatantly, I don't) is daubing graffiti over a memorial to Churchill necessary? Does attacking a car carrying the next king of the England while chanting "Tory scum" (erm, are the royals conservative? Or are the soap dodgers confusing being Tory and being rich again?) and "off with their heads" help the cause? Is attacking police officers a legitimate way of protesting?
Once you attack police, throw items and generally act like a complete Neanderthal how do you expect those police officers act? Everyone has the right to peacefully protest, what they were doing was not peaceful so get off the TV and stop complaining that the police reacted in kind.
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| STB |
| December 15, 2010, 3:02pm |
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None of the 'Burton 4' had any previous and all got 15 months jail.
What a fcukin joke the system for dealing with 'football lads' has become.
Basically, they got locked up for being aggressive and smashing a pub up - a few frightened people but no real victims.
This happens every weekend in most towns because people get drunk.
Dodds in a tw@t of a copper without a clue of how to deal with football fans and should learn from his predecessors rather than acting the hard man.
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| ska face |
| December 15, 2010, 3:11pm |
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Anyone sent to jail for 15 months for what happened at Burton has a right to feel very hard by in my humble opinion.
Yes, they deserve punishing but I'm sure we all agree the severity of the punishment must fit the crime. 15 months in jail is an appalling decision.
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| upthestripes |
| December 15, 2010, 3:30pm |
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Would be interested to know what other crimes carry a similar sentence just to put it in some perspective. I couldn't really say if it's fair or harsh, sounds harsh though.
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| NorfolkImp |
| December 15, 2010, 3:45pm |
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I heard froma reliable source that the judge didn't even bother viewing each individual case (i.e. dvd) because they had pleaded 'guilty' beforehand  Justice my @rse! |
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| siy2k5 |
| December 15, 2010, 4:03pm |
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Didn't that Portuguese lorry driver only get something like 5-6 years forkilling 2 kiddies in the people carrier, and permanently disabling the father? then that canoe bloke got 6 years for fraud. Forgive me if I've got the details wrong, but surely this sums up British "justice".
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| theicenian |
| December 15, 2010, 5:10pm |
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None of the 'Burton 4' had any previous and all got 15 months jail.
What a fcukin joke the system for dealing with 'football lads' has become.
Basically, they got locked up for being aggressive and smashing a pub up - a few frightened people but no real victims.
This happens every weekend in most towns because people get drunk.
Dodds in a tw@t of a copper without a clue of how to deal with football fans and should learn from his predecessors rather than acting the hard man.
Right,so according to you they smashed up a pub and frightened some innocent people as well as the things reported in Burton local paper. I question whether 15 months is enough,given our stupid legal system works they'll be wandering round town in less than six months. I'm sorry but they chose to take the risk, to expect to get off with a slapped hand would be about what would have happened in most cases but they got the wrong judge. If only this judge worked all such cases of a violent nature,not just football related hooliganism the country would be a better place. You really can't justify in any way someone over the age of 30 acting in this way whether alcohol fuelled or not, nevermind someone who is 19. To try and justify it by saying it happens in most towns most weekends is probably the reason why most town centers are out of bounds to reasonable people and is part of the decline of this country. As far as I'm concerned more power to the judges elbow. |
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| December 15, 2010, 5:16pm |
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| Lumpsleftbreast |
| December 15, 2010, 5:19pm |
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Harsh lesson yes BUT they shouldn't have acted how they did on the day.
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