burton just wont go away

With the sentencing right through each and every case and looking at cases involving other clubs previously am i the only one who suspects for whatever reason the powers that be had a hidden agenda v any Gy fans found guilty?Never in the history of Football can so many fans from one club been banned for a pitch invasion that resulted in so little damage we should be awarded the title of best behaved rioting fans ever ffs.

Lincs OB feeling a bit left out I reckon? Banned 'by association' without having been arrested/charged for anything ....... 1 down 199 to go  

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Match-bans-troublemaker/article-3017068-detail/article.html

Quoted from NorfolkImp

Lincs OB feeling a bit left out I reckon? Banned 'by association' without having been arrested/charged for anything ....... 1 down 199 to go  

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Match-bans-troublemaker/article-3017068-detail/article.html

That is absolutely bizarre.

Quoted from DoggerBank

These ludicrus sentences are put into perspective when we hear of this Iraqui twit assylum seeker who drives without licence/insurance,kills a twelve year old girl and flees the scene of the crime.
He is also charged with drug offences,burglary and harrasment.
He gets 4 months prison,since his release he has commited further offences,but cannot be deported because it infringes his human rights!....makes you want to spew dosent it

And who was the force behind us accepting the rulings of the European Human Rights Legislation. None other than Tony Blair to help his attention seeking wife , Cherie , who was a Human Rights Lawyer.Of all the self-benefitting pieces of legislation introduced by different governments this was the most blatant. Don't blame the systems , blame those that introduce them.Our legal system is hamstrung by this acceptance of the European Human Rights Bill which unfortunately is not being used for what it was originally intended in Europe.

A clear abuse of powers in the Grimsby cases and the Lincoln one. How can you ban an autistic person, that is descrimination against the disabled? If his family had anything about them, they would take it further as he needs help not being treated like a scum bag ffs!

The Burton incident has been blown out of proportion, I am sure careful editing of video evidence ie cutting of frames and putting evidence together was cleverly manufactured!

Many Burton fans could be seen gesturing Town fans, now why havebn't those people being punished for enciting aggressive behaviour.....Come on PC Dodds give us some answers?

Quoted from bladerunnner

salmon?...why do you chose to abuse this minority of fish?..i am going to complain to the salmons ethnic rights association and have you deported.

He meant Salmon Rushdie.

Quoted from NorfolkImp

Lincs OB feeling a bit left out I reckon? Banned 'by association' without having been arrested/charged for anything ....... 1 down 199 to go  

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Match-bans-troublemaker/article-3017068-detail/article.html

It just belies belief, i have read it, i understand the words but come on?
Lincoln have 200 lads?? Unbelievable.  
As for the spotty hanger on who throws stones from the back then gets what he deserves. Missile throwers are the worst as they can be pretty indiscriminate with who they hit, men, women or children.  

I don't agree with football related violence in any way, but I honestly think that the way in which football fans are treat and dealt with nowadays in completely wrong. I was at Burton, and in all honesty, I've seen a lot worse on an average saturday night out in Cleethorpes. There were no mass brawls, no fighting, of anything worth noting, no casualties. Is it just me or is breaking some hoardings a really minor and petty event to be called an offense? It's not as if anybody died (thankfully)
I think it can honestly be put down to awful, underprepared policing, we arrived at Burton train station at around 10:30 in the morning, to be greeted by one female police officer. Doddsy and his minions were at Grimsby police station with their cameras, they were well aware that we would be arriving in Burton early, and did not provide an escort, this is surely just down to laziness!? We were then in a pub at around lunch time, and the owner, was not prepared to allow us to sing in her pub, with all due respect, it was one of the biggest days in the club's recent history, it's surely to be expected, and they should have been pre-warned and prepared. This is what caused the 'disorder' to start, as she decided to close her pub, if the police had told her to stay open, and kept us all in one place where we were happy drinking, rather than trying to herd us around like sheep, and unnecessarily using batons, then I'm sure they'd have been treated with a little more respect, I'm sure there is a saying for that somewhere 'treat thy neighbour as thyself', a basic part of police conduct.

The stand behind the goal was overpacked to say the least (people on the turnstiles were taking back handers to let people in) the stewarding was poor, and again, underprepared and it was clear that there was no liaison between them and the police. It was a disastrous attempt from the Police and the club alike. If anything Burton Albion FC should be fined for allowing the ground to be subject to letting it happen. But as always, its easier to pull a few lads off the streets and fine and ban them, as it looks better on their statistics

and the idea of actually banning people from the football, i think just breeds a new generation of young men to be banned in the next few years...

with all the media hype of what happened at Burton, when teams come down here they'll want to have a pop at Grimsby because of it. Because they heard that Grimsby is full of yobs, they'll want to challenge the title (its a basic instinct of manhood). (this was evident in a few of the pre season games, Sheff Wednesday and Scunthorpe, all be it they are somewhat 'derbies' but still) This just causes other people to get involved, that wouldn't have before. The whole banning order system is just a vicious cycle. I don't agree with it at all, sure something needs to be done, for SERIOUS football related violence, like scenes seen before where people actually get hurt. But let's all be honest, where the scenes at Burton really that 'horrific' and 'terrifying' like the papers acclaimed them to be? It's the same as anything that happens in this country, its all overhyped and everybody over reacts to it.

As for students. I think the protests were pretty ridiculous, they were never ever going to achieve anything, and I actually agree with one of the first posts on this link, that they were actually initially started by the more idealistic hippy type students, and then 'bandwagoned'.

Being a student (not a stereotypical one, I might add) myself, I get to hear what goes on, and although i did not take part in any of the protests, I saw  the protests, and I thought they were on par with what happened at Burton, if not worse and hijacked by some non students just wanting to get involved in a ruckus. They should be dealt with just as severely if not worse, if the government want to keep any continuity and stature to their legal system, other wise people will just continue to run a mock.

on the fees topic, I'm training to be a teacher, my starting wage will be low 20s, after I have done a year as an NQT, so I will be paying back my fees straight away, as I will be earning over 15,000 a year. However, not that the rise in fees will affect me, as i have already started my course, if they were to rise to potentially, 9,000 a year, then it seems rather a lot to be paying back in comparison to the wage in which I will be receiving, does it not? But I know that I want to be a teacher, and we do need teachers in our country, and always will, so for this type situation, surely it will have a negative effect? I just don't believe that the increase in fees will pay off in time.

I think that the result will stop students studying for degree's which, in fairness, do lead to better jobs (most of the time) and will just force them into training for skilled trades such as plumbing and the like, which, unless I am mistaken, we have several thousand Brits out of work at the moment, who are already fully qualified in these areas, due to a distinct lack of jobs.

thus leading to more prestigious positions, that require degrees, becoming available to foreign people coming to live in this country, who will get their tuition fees fully paid for by our government and receive grants to live off, that will not be paid back!

what i do not understand is that all students are the same, however due to circumstances with their upbringing some students get their tuition for free, as their parents cannot afford to pay for them, but neither can my parents, I don't, personally believe that that is at all fair, maybe it's just because I am not unfortunate enough to come from a broken home. I think there are a few wrinkles to be ironed out in our whole legal system.

But, this is just my opinion...

The thing what gets me is the judge gave all 4 of them the same sentence.
these guys never knew each other ,the never went to the match together ,they all were arrested for diffrent offences[or at least diffrent crimes] so there was no coordination between them,they will all had pre-sentance reports done by the probation service which would mean some would have more mitigation than others so how could they all recieve the same sentence ?
this stinks of a stitch up by the authorities  !
the same as when pc dodds said they were going to arrest 50 fans,why 50 ? there was more than 50 involved so why just nick the first 50 they could get their hands on and make an example out of them.
if these so called crimes had been commited anywhere else and by anyone other than white working class football fans they would not have recieved a prison sentence

Quoted from grimps

The thing what gets me is the judge gave all 4 of them the same sentence.
these guys never knew each other ,the never went to the match together ,they all were arrested for diffrent offences[or at least diffrent crimes] so there was no coordination between them,they will all had pre-sentance reports done by the probation service which would mean some would have more mitigation than others so how could they all recieve the same sentence ?
this stinks of a stitch up by the authorities  !
the same as when pc dodds said they were going to arrest 50 fans,why 50 ? there was more than 50 involved so why just nick the first 50 they could get their hands on and make an example out of them.
if these so called crimes had been commited anywhere else and by anyone other than white working class football fans they would not have recieved a prison sentence

How come two town fans were banned in the week for the York, yet no York fans were arrested, they had fence panels and concrete blocks ffs....Dodds has set his targets and looks like he wants to reach them whatever happens!