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Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, June 11, 2024, 5:34pm
Posted by: Grimsby2012, June 11, 2024, 5:36pm; Reply: 1
Posted by: pontoonlew, June 11, 2024, 5:37pm; Reply: 2
Neither ours or Yorks announcement mentions there being any fee involved
Posted by: forza ivano, June 11, 2024, 5:38pm; Reply: 3
Posted by: acko338, June 11, 2024, 5:46pm; Reply: 4
Sadly, talented, but too easily bullied, then disappeared, and therefore became ineffective, despite undoubted passing ability and good vision.
6 inches taller and a stone heavier and there would have been a great player.
Hope he succeeds at York.
Posted by: pontoonlew, June 11, 2024, 5:46pm; Reply: 5
Posted by: Kris2, June 11, 2024, 5:47pm; Reply: 6
Good luck, hopefully he can find that early potential he showed and some form again, never managed to find it or any consistency after signing for us. Still think he's a good player just never happened with us after performing well on loan.
Posted by: moosey_club, June 11, 2024, 5:57pm; Reply: 7
Posted by: Mappers, June 11, 2024, 5:58pm; Reply: 8
IF it means we bring in a decent league 2 midfielder like Young from Wrexham or the like I will be happy .
Hunt was a one in six player and that's been generous , tons of ability but every manager failed to get the most out of him so you have to think that's on Hunt seeing as it's been a consistent theme .
His performance at MK Dons away was one of the few highlights last season for me and he looked at least 2 levels up from anyone else on the pitch both in thought and ability , I thought he might kick on but it was another false dawn .
Good luck to the lad and I hope he can make the most of his undoubted technical ability at York and beyond .
Posted by: mariner91, June 11, 2024, 6:04pm; Reply: 9
How many times did he have a positive impact on the game in the last 2 years? Less than 5? Good luck to the lad and hope he does well but that’s a good deal for us if we recouped our money and have spare wages now.
Posted by: forza ivano, June 11, 2024, 6:07pm; Reply: 10
How many times did he have a positive impact on the game in the last 2 years? Less than 5? Good luck to the lad and hope he does well but that’s a good deal for us if we recouped our money and have spare wages now.
an it will be a pretty hefty wage coming off the budget, which is no bad thing
Posted by: Hagrid, June 11, 2024, 6:12pm; Reply: 11
If he couldnt get in Artells team- of which he is supposedly the perfect example of an Artell player- that says a lot about the player IMO.
Did well on loan, did nothing here from signing. No great loss and a decent wage off the budget
Posted by: TAGG, June 11, 2024, 6:28pm; Reply: 12
Thought DA may have kept him to have a crack at getting the best out of him.
Good luck to the lad.
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, June 11, 2024, 6:31pm; Reply: 13
Good luck to him. Apparently a well liked lad in the camp
Posted by: Maringer, June 11, 2024, 6:33pm; Reply: 14
I think the fact that none of our managers have been able to get a tune out of him is probably telling. Other than the initial decent loan spell in the Conference, I don't think he ever showed enough here to warrant a place in the team. Good luck to him at York. It might work out for him there and it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that he'll make a league player at some point in the future.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, June 11, 2024, 6:44pm; Reply: 15
If he couldnt get in Artells team- of which he is supposedly the perfect example of an Artell player- that says a lot about the player IMO.
Did well on loan, did nothing here from signing. No great loss and a decent wage off the budget
I’d imagine that he’s delighted to leave given the slating you and others are giving him on social media.
Posted by: Ruuger, June 11, 2024, 6:46pm; Reply: 16
Didn't really rate him at all, he had flashes of brilliance but was far too inconsistent, it also became apparent that 3 managers didn't rate him, so this could probably be a good move for him. I wish him well.
Posted by: Hagrid, June 11, 2024, 6:51pm; Reply: 17
I’d imagine that he’s delighted to leave given the slating you and others are giving him on social media.
Slating? Its Facts. I know you think he’s some sort of lower league Paul Scholes, facts are he isn’t. He’s not shown anything in his 2 years here, 2 managers, 1 of which signed him, 1 of which is ( on paper) exactly the type of manager he should thrive under, have not played him.
Posted by: Balthazar Bullitt, June 11, 2024, 6:56pm; Reply: 18
Just says undisclosed fee. Did it give a figure before?
Posted by: immariner, June 11, 2024, 7:10pm; Reply: 19
Played well enough against MK Dons and Crewe after DA arrived to make him (and me) think there was a player there. Then he went anonymous and fell out the team (again). Keep seeing people talk about him being a top passer. I must have been imagining him giving the ball away an aggravating amount then. But still, a decent player, a L2 player when really on his game, but his engine-at-idle level currently is not League 2 level. National League is about right. I suspect the problem isn't with his feet, it'll most likely be in his head and getting himself motivated. Maybe he is too nice, needs a bit more aggression. I wish him all the best, hope he gets promoted with York
Posted by: HertsGTFC, June 11, 2024, 7:31pm; Reply: 20
Good luck to the lad, one less player for the experts on here to carp on about.
Posted by: arryarryarry, June 11, 2024, 8:16pm; Reply: 21
Sadly, talented, but too easily bullied, then disappeared, and therefore became ineffective, despite undoubted passing ability and good vision.
6 inches taller and a stone heavier and there would have been a great player.
Hope he succeeds at York.
That could apply to several players we have signed up and the past few years.
Posted by: tanga_the_indestructible, June 11, 2024, 8:39pm; Reply: 22
Sadly, talented, but too easily bullied, then disappeared, and therefore became ineffective, despite undoubted passing ability and good vision.
6 inches taller and a stone heavier and there would have been a great player.
Hope he succeeds at York.
Joe Waters, Dave Boylen and Dave Gilbert all shorter than him. Weight and height nothing to with it.
If only Messi had been a bit taller and 7 kilos heavier, eh? 😂
Posted by: rancido, June 11, 2024, 8:59pm; Reply: 23
Joe Waters, Dave Boylen and Dave Gilbert all shorter than him. Weight and height nothing to with it.
If only Messi had been a bit taller and 7 kilos heavier, eh? 😂
Those three town players were shorter but stockier than Hunt and certainly harder to " push" off the ball.
Posted by: Swansea_Mariner, June 11, 2024, 10:06pm; Reply: 24
Leon Britton is another the same size as Hunt. If Hunt was good enough for the league he'd have done it by now. Good luck to him though.
Posted by: diehardmariner, June 12, 2024, 10:03am; Reply: 25
Didn't really rate him at all, he had flashes of brilliance but was far too inconsistent, it also became apparent that 3 managers didn't rate him, so this could probably be a good move for him. I wish him well.
This is still the bit that I just struggle to get.
Hurst signed him, having already had him in his squad for 4 months was it? He knew what he would have needed to know about him. His abilities, his flaws, his character...everything. He was impressed and then went and paid a fee to bring him back, yet something changed in his view of the lad and he gave him half-chances.
Artell came in and was clearly impressed enough to put him straight into the team, describe him as pivotal and then go cold very, very quickly on him.
Perhaps is he just the classic flatter to deceive type player, looks good but little end product. Which is probably a fair assessment of his permanent spell here. Artell was also fair when he explained his reasoning for letting him out on loan, i.e. Hunt doesn't hurt teams enough to warrant playing in an advanced midfield role and his strength isn't as a No 4 holding type (which Hurst seemed to think he was!)
I really wanted Hunt to flourish under Artell and become the player a lot of us hoped he would. I do believe that he's got the ability to be genuinely effective in games and hurt teams, good management and support will get that out of him on a consistent basis. It won't be here and that's fine, best wishes to the lad.
It's no secret that I'm a Hunt fan but the constant has to be about bringing in better options. If Artell has made the decision to let Hunt go because he can bring someone better in as a replacement then I'm all for that. As always, that's something we've consistently failed to do. Fingers crossed we're seeing that pattern changing.
Posted by: rancido, June 12, 2024, 10:54am; Reply: 26
This is still the bit that I just struggle to get.
Hurst signed him, having already had him in his squad for 4 months was it? He knew what he would have needed to know about him. His abilities, his flaws, his character...everything. He was impressed and then went and paid a fee to bring him back, yet something changed in his view of the lad and he gave him half-chances.
Artell came in and was clearly impressed enough to put him straight into the team, describe him as pivotal and then go cold very, very quickly on him.
Perhaps is he just the classic flatter to deceive type player, looks good but little end product. Which is probably a fair assessment of his permanent spell here. Artell was also fair when he explained his reasoning for letting him out on loan, i.e. Hunt doesn't hurt teams enough to warrant playing in an advanced midfield role and his strength isn't as a No 4 holding type (which Hurst seemed to think he was!)
I really wanted Hunt to flourish under Artell and become the player a lot of us hoped he would. I do believe that he's got the ability to be genuinely effective in games and hurt teams, good management and support will get that out of him on a consistent basis. It won't be here and that's fine, best wishes to the lad.
It's no secret that I'm a Hunt fan but the constant has to be about bringing in better options. If Artell has made the decision to let Hunt go because he can bring someone better in as a replacement then I'm all for that. As always, that's something we've consistently failed to do. Fingers crossed we're seeing that pattern changing.
It could been that Hunt could do all the right things on the training ground with a low-key background but couldn't show it in a match with a large audience.
Posted by: diehardmariner, June 12, 2024, 11:03am; Reply: 27
Yeah, perhaps. Personally I think he was never used consistently in the right position and when he did get his chance he was always under pressure to do something, which in turn led to mistakes. Always felt like he was playing under that pressure and expectation that unless he did something he was dropped, a scrutiny no-one else seemed to face, for example how many games did Abo Eisa play where he just coasted? At least Eisa produced some end product at some point, Arthur Gnahoua probably a better example with his 1 assist and 1 goal from 25 games and 18 starts in the league.
I completely got Artell's point about that he didn't hurt teams enough, but he always seemed to the one who was blamed for anything going wrong. Came off the bench against MK Dons and impressed, was probably MOTM against Crewe in the next game. Then a bit meh against Newport, no worse than anyone else against Harrogate and then that's it. 15 minutes off the bench in the next game in an absolutely awful display at Mansfield, 35 minutes against Walsall when the game was already gone. Never made the squad again.
Same earlier in the season under Hurst. Played well in the opener against MK Dons, did alright but not amazing away at County and then benched. 8 minutes until his next appearance six weeks later away at Swindon (again, did ok and no worse than anyone else) but didn't feature again under Hurst.
I think if we're expecting any creative type midfielder to have an impact on every single game we're probably going to be very disappointed at this level.
Who knows. He's gone now and quite interested to see who Artell brings in to replace him.
Posted by: monkeyboy, June 12, 2024, 4:01pm; Reply: 28
This time next year people will be calling to sign hunts up again lol
Posted by: HoratiusEberlin, June 12, 2024, 4:19pm; Reply: 29
Remember those lovely, flat, arrowed corners to the back post (Waterfall) when he first came here? His technique was fantastic.
You could see this in early videos of him playing youth football too. The way he struck the ball was light years ahead of what you normally see at our level.
I can only assume that managers are equally dazzled when they first see him play but then something else counteracts that technical skill.
I think many of us willed him to succeed so much because you never want to see raw talent like that get wasted, but you can only persevere for so long I guess.
Posted by: Zmariner, June 12, 2024, 4:26pm; Reply: 30
When Crocombe and Orsi left last year I thought really dumb business for us. this time not so, talented but did not do enough for me utm
Posted by: 1mickylyons, June 12, 2024, 4:26pm; Reply: 31
Remember those lovely, flat, arrowed corners to the back post (Waterfall) when he first came here? His technique was fantastic.
You could see this in early videos of him playing youth football too. The way he struck the ball was light years ahead of what you normally see at our level.
I can only assume that managers are equally dazzled when they first see him play but then something else counteracts that technical skill.
I think many of us willed him to succeed so much because you never want to see raw talent like that get wasted, but you can only persevere for so long I guess.
This in spades. I really about how Beckham practiced and practiced his set pieces and crossing so with Hunt you'd have to think he lacked the will to succeed?
The ability was there for sure its a short career be your best.
Posted by: AncientExiledMariner, June 14, 2024, 4:41pm; Reply: 32
This is still the bit that I just struggle to get.
Hurst signed him, having already had him in his squad for 4 months was it? He knew what he would have needed to know about him. His abilities, his flaws, his character...everything. He was impressed and then went and paid a fee to bring him back, yet something changed in his view of the lad and he gave him half-chances.
Artell came in and was clearly impressed enough to put him straight into the team, describe him as pivotal and then go cold very, very quickly on him.
Perhaps is he just the classic flatter to deceive type player, looks good but little end product. Which is probably a fair assessment of his permanent spell here. Artell was also fair when he explained his reasoning for letting him out on loan, i.e. Hunt doesn't hurt teams enough to warrant playing in an advanced midfield role and his strength isn't as a No 4 holding type (which Hurst seemed to think he was!)
I really wanted Hunt to flourish under Artell and become the player a lot of us hoped he would. I do believe that he's got the ability to be genuinely effective in games and hurt teams, good management and support will get that out of him on a consistent basis. It won't be here and that's fine, best wishes to the lad.
It's no secret that I'm a Hunt fan but the constant has to be about bringing in better options. If Artell has made the decision to let Hunt go because he can bring someone better in as a replacement then I'm all for that. As always, that's something we've consistently failed to do. Fingers crossed we're seeing that pattern changing.
I have no idea, and this is pure speculation, but it could just be that once he got his contract, he got quite comfortable. Maybe he's a pretty laid back lad who really wanted to prove himself on loan. To get started in football and live that dream. Then he got signed, and things seemed a little harder than originally thought. Maybe again when DA came in, he wanted to prove himself and get that chance, however maybe setbacks knock his confidence quite quickly.
You won't get many players that are driven like Harry Clifton, but again, I think there is a scale, and maybe because he's very talented, it hasn't dawned on him that talent and vision alone won't get him where he needs to be. I really hope this is the wake up call for him to go on and prove himself and make a good career for himself, but I think he'd need a real epiphany here. Only Hunt can define the career he has from here on out.
Posted by: arryarryarry, June 14, 2024, 5:14pm; Reply: 33
When Crocombe and Orsi left last year I thought really dumb business for us. this time not so, talented but did not do enough for me utm
You could make that assertion about most of last years squad, that's why we were so
excrement and nearly went down.
Some have gone but sadly some still remain.
Posted by: forza ivano, June 14, 2024, 8:21pm; Reply: 34
I have no idea, and this is pure speculation, but it could just be that once he got his contract, he got quite comfortable. Maybe he's a pretty laid back lad who really wanted to prove himself on loan. To get started in football and live that dream. Then he got signed, and things seemed a little harder than originally thought. Maybe again when DA came in, he wanted to prove himself and get that chance, however maybe setbacks knock his confidence quite quickly.
You won't get many players that are driven like Harry Clifton, but again, I think there is a scale, and maybe because he's very talented, it hasn't dawned on him that talent and vision alone won't get him where he needs to be. I really hope this is the wake up call for him to go on and prove himself and make a good career for himself, but I think he'd need a real epiphany here. Only Hunt can define the career he has from here on out.
you might be on to something there. Apparently there was a cabal of old Hurst players who 'swung the lead' when Artell took over ; a lack of professionalism in terms of being late for training etc. He has now got ri of all those players. make of that what you will
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, June 14, 2024, 8:35pm; Reply: 35
This is still the bit that I just struggle to get.
Hurst signed him, having already had him in his squad for 4 months was it? He knew what he would have needed to know about him. His abilities, his flaws, his character...everything. He was impressed and then went and paid a fee to bring him back, yet something changed in his view of the lad and he gave him half-chances.
Artell came in and was clearly impressed enough to put him straight into the team, describe him as pivotal and then go cold very, very quickly on him.
Perhaps is he just the classic flatter to deceive type player, looks good but little end product. Which is probably a fair assessment of his permanent spell here. Artell was also fair when he explained his reasoning for letting him out on loan, i.e. Hunt doesn't hurt teams enough to warrant playing in an advanced midfield role and his strength isn't as a No 4 holding type (which Hurst seemed to think he was!)
.
This reminds me of when Neil Woods came
I’m on that loan spell from bradfud all those years ago. Everything he touched turned to gold but, once he signed, he really struggled for former and it took around 15 games to get his next goal. ( Obviously , totally different players)
Posted by: Meza, June 14, 2024, 8:41pm; Reply: 36
It happened to Ross Hannah didn't it scored well on loan then when he signed struggled initially.
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