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Posted by: The Grim Reaper, February 5, 2019, 3:26pm
The same one that sent off 2 of our players at Yeovil last season. Granted that  Mitch Rose's was deserved, but he's already done 11 this season. Did anyone notice or mention the ref against Newport on Saturday? Must have been decent.

https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2019/february/fixture-news-for-yeovil-town-vs-grimsby-town-on-09-feb-19/
Posted by: Mariner_09, February 5, 2019, 3:38pm; Reply: 1
Just hope we don't get that lino who was at the London Stadium last night, he was terrible.
Posted by: Gaffer58, February 5, 2019, 4:24pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from Mariner_09
Just hope we don't get that lino who was at the London Stadium last night, he was terrible.


I think you're being a bit harsh, the Liverpool player was only 2 yards offside, but don't forget it's Liverpool and it's years since they won the title, so I think Sky and the Premier League are helping wherever possible.
Posted by: mimma, February 5, 2019, 4:24pm; Reply: 3
Don't dive in recklessly and you don't give him a decision to make
Posted by: diehardmariner, February 5, 2019, 4:25pm; Reply: 4
I thought the ref against Newport was largely pretty decent.  The only thing he got wrong was when Labadie elbowed Hendrie and escaped with a talking to.

Potentially quite significant and it could have been a game changer but unfortunately it feels like we're at the standard that we have to accept such shortcomings.
Posted by: buckstown, February 6, 2019, 10:12am; Reply: 5
Quoted from diehardmariner
I thought the ref against Newport was largely pretty decent.  The only thing he got wrong was when Labadie elbowed Hendrie and escaped with a talking to.

Potentially quite significant and it could have been a game changer but unfortunately it feels like we're at the standard that we have to accept such shortcomings.


I've seen a lot of Spurs this season as a mate has a spare season ticket. He's never walked away without commenting that the ref was rubbish and gave them nothing. Don't think it matters what level you're at, everybody thinks the ref is cr@p
Posted by: RichMariner, February 6, 2019, 12:25pm; Reply: 6
This ref dishes out a red card every three games and we average one every four games.

There seem to be more red cards these days than there were just 5-10 seasons ago. I know football is evolving and becoming less of a contact sport as new rules apply for more 'robust' challenges (even when they win the ball) but it seems to me that players are either not interpreting the law correctly or referees are more card-happy now than they've ever been.

Probably a bit of both.
Posted by: oochiad, February 6, 2019, 12:32pm; Reply: 7
Quote “I thought the ref against Newport was largely pretty decent.  The only thing he got wrong was when Labadie elbowed Hendrie and escaped with a talking to.”

Did he not miss a clear handball for Newport in the first half?
Posted by: diehardmariner, February 6, 2019, 12:35pm; Reply: 8
I'm not sure it's not simply a case of the players not interpreting the rules, I think it's a genuinely impossible ask for players to not go into challenges as they do.  

Going into a challenge in a way that the modern game would deem safe is actually dangerous, you're asking professional athletes to put their bodies in the way of harm without the protection of their legs or arms going up in the way as a natural defence mechanism.  Try and go in for a sliding tackle and see if you can hold back on your feet going slightly off the floor or at a completely downward angle, you can't do it.  Your body will not allow it and instinct alone puts up the natural protection.  

The game has become too much of a non-contact sport and whilst we don't want to see the days of players getting 'done in' and careers ended because of a grudge, it needs to be a happy medium.  The footballing authorities would do well to look more at retrospective actions that can be taken rather than put pressure on the referee's to make immediate decisions.  There's cameras at all games, most games have multiple.  I think the referee's are under so much pressure to get it right, because of the scrutiny from extra cameras and the ability to see incidents from multiple angles and to be slowed down etc.  But without the assistance that all that should be bring.  If they see something that they're not sure of, they're bound to be thinking 'well I best send him off because I don't want the pundits ripping me apart later on'.  

The Tyrone Mings incident is a classic example of how it could be used, albeit from the other end of the spectrum.
The referee saw something, he didn't think it was intentional.  He let it go.  That's fine, it's a split-second event and we don't know what was blocking the referee's eyeline or what view he had.  However it was just sheer nastiness from Mings.  He knew what he was doing and he did it with intent, in my opinion.  The footage should be used, regardless of what the referee decided on the day, to punish Mings accordingly.  

We've got all this technology, let's use it correctly and to help the match officials. Yet instead we're pushing bloody VAR which does absolutely nothing to improve the game other than sell extra advertising slots.
Posted by: arryarryarry, February 6, 2019, 1:44pm; Reply: 9
The ref for last night's Newport game was excrement for missing that clear handball in the Boro penalty area when he had a clear view of it.
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, February 6, 2019, 2:01pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from diehardmariner
I'm not sure it's not simply a case of the players not interpreting the rules, I think it's a genuinely impossible ask for players to not go into challenges as they do.  

Going into a challenge in a way that the modern game would deem safe is actually dangerous, you're asking professional athletes to put their bodies in the way of harm without the protection of their legs or arms going up in the way as a natural defence mechanism.  Try and go in for a sliding tackle and see if you can hold back on your feet going slightly off the floor or at a completely downward angle, you can't do it.  Your body will not allow it and instinct alone puts up the natural protection.  

The game has become too much of a non-contact sport and whilst we don't want to see the days of players getting 'done in' and careers ended because of a grudge, it needs to be a happy medium.  The footballing authorities would do well to look more at retrospective actions that can be taken rather than put pressure on the referee's to make immediate decisions.  There's cameras at all games, most games have multiple.  I think the referee's are under so much pressure to get it right, because of the scrutiny from extra cameras and the ability to see incidents from multiple angles and to be slowed down etc.  But without the assistance that all that should be bring.  If they see something that they're not sure of, they're bound to be thinking 'well I best send him off because I don't want the pundits ripping me apart later on'.  

The Tyrone Mings incident is a classic example of how it could be used, albeit from the other end of the spectrum.
The referee saw something, he didn't think it was intentional.  He let it go.  That's fine, it's a split-second event and we don't know what was blocking the referee's eyeline or what view he had.  However it was just sheer nastiness from Mings.  He knew what he was doing and he did it with intent, in my opinion.  The footage should be used, regardless of what the referee decided on the day, to punish Mings accordingly.  

We've got all this technology, let's use it correctly and to help the match officials. Yet instead we're pushing bloody VAR which does absolutely nothing to improve the game other than sell extra advertising slots.


Absolutely spot on regarding VAR.

Posted by: TownSNAFU5, February 6, 2019, 6:59pm; Reply: 11
There was a ref on talkSPORT having a go at the media for criticising refs.

We all make mistakes.  But what annoys fans is when referees get the basics wrong (when fans can clearly see the bad decision).  Refs rarely admit to their mistakes and there is no accountability or communication with fans.  We are in the entertainment business.  I think that in 20 years refs will be exspected to explain their decisions to all.
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