Anyone know if the Checkatrade Trophy game against Notts County a week on Tuesday will count as one of the 3 suspended games ?
If so the competition will at least be of some use to us.

Anyone at the game think we should appeal the decision ?

Ive watched a few replays and I'm baffled.

Wasn’t a red and M.J. already said there going to appeal :)

Not sure about it counting towards checks trophy but I personally think the ban will be over turned.

It'll end up irrelevant as it was the 92nd minute and we hadn't had a shot on goal all game. It wasn't a red card and the appeal is surely a formality.

I can't see a foul, never mind a red.

If the card isn't overturned, the suspension will be for league games as I understand it.

Quoted from chaos33

I can't see a foul, never mind a red.

If the card isn't overturned, the suspension will be for league games as I understand it.

But didn't Rose's suspension include the EFL Cup game against Rochdale !

All bans cover first team competitive matches.

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/suspensions

Right-o.

Just seen it and I’m absolutely staggered! As Chaos said I can’t even see a foul never mind even a yellow, I can’t even work out what the ref thinks he’s seen. There’s definitely a chance it’ll be overturned.

Quoted from promotion plaice

Anyone know if the Checkatrade Trophy game against Notts County a week on Tuesday will count as one of the 3 suspended games ?
If so the competition will at least be of some use to us.

Anyone at the game think we should appeal the decision ?

To be fair I would have expected him to start that game to build his fitness.

I think it should only be a one match ban as it's a professional foul/non-violent conduct?

Quoted from Son of Cod

I think it should only be a one match ban as it's a professional foul/non-violent conduct?

It was given for high foot up to the head so surely that has to be violent conduct, not a professional foul? Either way, shocking decision, should be overturned and no ban at all.

Quoted from Posh Harry

It was given for high foot up to the head so surely that has to be violent conduct, not a professional foul? Either way, shocking decision, should be overturned and no ban at all.

I have not seen it yet but, if the foot is high and he makes contact then it is called Serious Foul Play. Violent Conduct comes into force when the ball is not involved! Head butting, striking  a player is Violent Conduct. 😎
UTMM

The Newport player came from behind Thomas so I doubt Wes even saw him,  

Not a red card.

Can only assume he’s given a “high” foot.

Can’t say I’m surprised. He gave a free kick to Newport first half for a “high” foot by Hooper when their player dived to head it at knee height.

I heard it was this refs first season in the league. He’s a lot to learn imo.

Thomas was facing away from his man looking at the ball and jumped for the ball the defender came in from behind to try and get the ball first and had his head down it was purely accidental. Not even a yellow card it was what went on before that did it.

Newport knew he was a novice league ref and worked on him all match to get a player sent off.

Amond too got away with spoiling tactics although Macca let it get to him and should have pushed Amond out of the way and told him to feck off.

True we never deserved anything but to target the ref like that tells me everything about the Newport management it was a deliberate ploy and it worked.

Let's hope this injustice is overturned.

I hate to be the doom-monger, but unless it's a case of mistaken identity, then getting a refereeing decision overturned, is like trying to dispute the word of a Met Copper.  Just not going to happen.

A couple of seasons ago West Ham had 4 out of 5 rescinded.

Quoted from Abdul19

A couple of seasons ago West Ham had 4 out of 5 rescinded.

Yes, but then that’s West Ham. We’re all paying for their new stadium, while we can’t get one ourselves.😉

Matt's red card against Newport got overturned last season.

We had one rescinded last season didn’t we?? Seem to remember that, but I can’t remember which player.

Quoted from Mariner_09

Matt's red card against Newport got overturned last season.

Anyone who gets a red card against Newport should have it overturned.

When do we expect to get a decision about the appeal?

Red card stands.

https://t.co/4XoXrUnkcc

It’s been upheld.

An absolute disgrace. Reduced from 3 games to 2. What the hell is that!? Its not a red. The ref is a joke for giving it, the fa and the panel are worse for upholding it

I still don't see how that's a red card?!

Ridiculous.

"The commission decided that the punishment was excessive"

But it was still a correct decision?

Right  :-/

flipping hell. Game’s gone.

Basically they know the ref copulated up, but they havent got the balls to rescind it, so have knocked a game off the ban. Little wonder noone ever bothers appealing, a pathetic decision

So, it's two thirds of a red card then?  :-/

Shall we call it an Orange?

Ridiculous decision by the FA, never a red card. I was watching the Man U vs Spurs game on Monday and this incident with Lucas Moura got a yellow card >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6103957/MARK-CLATTENBURG-Craig-Pawson-right-not-send-Lucas-Moura-high-boot.html

Video clip >> https://clips.clippit.tv/lnqadg/720.mp4

Quoted from Mark Clattenburg

"Craig Pawson was right to take his time and assess the extent of the injury to Phil Jones after Lucas Moura's high boot early in the game.

High-foot challenges are always judged by the consequences and, after Pawson waited to determine that there was no serious injury suffered, he was right to show Moura a yellow card as opposed to red."

Interesting comment about challenges being judged by the consequences. So this should have been a drop ball, not even a free kick.

thats funny, i always thought if you appealed and lost, you got an extra game added to the ban for wasting the FA's time ?
We have appealed, lost and had a game knocked off the ban !!

Is this a new precedent we have set ?

Quoted from moosey_club

thats funny, i always thought if you appealed and lost, you got an extra game added to the ban for wasting the FA's time ?

Shhh! Don't remind them.

Just to justify a excrement decision by a newbie ref. Fuckingshambles.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Just to justify a excrement decision by a newbie ref. Fuckingshambles.

Exactly this. Disgraceful decision but not unexpected considering the shambolic level of the organising bodies in this country.

Quoted from moosey_club

thats funny, i always thought if you appealed and lost, you got an extra game added to the ban for wasting the FA's time ?
We have appealed, lost and had a game knocked off the ban !!

Is this a new precedent we have set ?

The extra game is added for 'frivolous appeals'. I don't think it's actually enforced very often, just when it's an appeal for snapping someone in half or something.

What a total f***ing debacle. That ruling is neither here nor there! If the decision was correct it's a 3 game ban. Reducing it to two just makes it look an even bigger farce. Ridiculous and shameful that it wasn't overturned. Incompetent cowards.

Is this a first ? Either way it’s a farce

I told you all, we are not West Ham. 8) 8)

Spent far to long wondering what to write to make sense of this decision.... so gave up and went with the below which I think covers it.

This is f***ing ridiculous!

Clueless.

Absolutely f8cking fuming with this. Pathetic pathetic decision.

The FA panel members should hang their heads in shame. As others have said, complete bottle job, new ref so let’s not be too hard on him but stuff the player and the club.

Right where’s the cat, I am gonna give him a right kicking 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Ps I haven’t got a cat

UTFM

Can we appeal against the appeal decision ?

Utter rubbish !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well that's a urine take

2 games how does that work? Surely it's either a sending off or not.. and looking at the coverage it wasn't even a yellow for me.. total joke the FA no way would they have done that to a so called big club

Quoted from HackneyHaddock

I hate to be the doom-monger, but unless it's a case of mistaken identity, then getting a refereeing decision overturned, is like trying to dispute the word of a Met Copper.  Just not going to happen.

Fourteen crosses sadly didn't make me wrong.  This was never going to be overturned in a million years.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Can we appeal against the appeal decision ?

Utter rubbish !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the time the 2nd appeal had finished the ban would be over   ;)

Agree.....shocking decision.

The incident happened in front of the dugout, so the fourth official must have had a good view of it. He must have backed up the ref. I think that the ref thought there was an elbow, and the fourth official has agreed with him.

If it happened in the premier league there would have been multiple camera angles to help get the decision overturned. We have just the one for the panel to look at.

We once had a card rescinded against Gary Jones when a Lincoln player spoke up for him and said it was an accident. No chance of Newport players doing the sporting thing was there?

What a fecking cop out!!!

So they admit the punishment was excessive deduct one ban but they still think it was right ???

It was a fecking yellow AT WORST.

UNBELIEVABLE JEFF.(anger3)(anger3)(anger3)

So basically the appeal says - yes we still think it was a red card, but actually not a full red card  ::)


Also confused as I thought if an appeal was unsuccessful the ban increased?

Quoted from mariner83

Also confused as I thought if an appeal was unsuccessful the ban increased?

They only do that if they consider the appealing club to be obviously taking the urine.

Quoted from mimma

The incident happened in front of the dugout, so the fourth official must have had a good view of it. He must have backed up the ref. I think that the ref thought there was an elbow, and the fourth official has agreed with him.

If it happened in the premier league there would have been multiple camera angles to help get the decision overturned. We have just the one for the panel to look at.

We once had a card rescinded against Gary Jones when a Lincoln player spoke up for him and said it was an accident. No chance of Newport players doing the sporting thing was there?

Hmmm....the issue with that is.......if they detected the use of an elbow, why deduct a game from the suspension?

Should of been a yellow for their guy going through the back of Thomas with his head. Ridiculous.

Farcical decision.  It's either a just decision or not, the ruling body can't suddenly decide it's in between and hope to get away with it.

Previously I've been cautious regards making too much noise about the ruling authorities because I think it can come back to bite you and almost make you a target.  But I do think Town should make a noise about this, rather than a by the letter statement I'd like to see them come out and condemn this decision and question the logic behind it.

RH reporting this morning that Thomas will have to miss two league games, and that the Chuckatrade game won't count as disciplinary issues are dealt with separately for this competition.

Quoted from chaos33

RH reporting this morning that Thomas will have to miss two league games, and that the Chuckatrade game won't count as disciplinary issues are dealt with separately for this competition.

Which is another farce as Mitch Rose's ban was partly served in the League Cup.  Both the League Cup and the Checkatrade are FL competitions, how does that work?

Quoted from diehardmariner

Which is another farce as Mitch Rose's ban was partly served in the League Cup.  Both the League Cup and the Checkatrade are FL competitions, how does that work?

I think they make the rules up as they go along.  ;)

Seems so.

Sure there's a joke in this somewhere.....oh yes, the f@cking FA & EFL!!!...both useless, spineless entities!!

Quoted from diehardmariner

Which is another farce as Mitch Rose's ban was partly served in the League Cup.  Both the League Cup and the Checkatrade are FL competitions, how does that work?

Because the FA would hate to deny players the chance of playing in such a prestigious tournament where they can play alongside/against  England international players of the future

Quoted from chaos33

RH reporting this morning that Thomas will have to miss two league games, and that the Chuckatrade game won't count as disciplinary issues are dealt with separately for this competition.

The only good thing and it is the only good thing to come out of this is,

Wes will be able to get 90 minutes under his belt which will only help his fitness when he can play in a proper  match.

But I think the Chuckatrade rules say you must play x number of players from the previous league game, well we can claim that Thomas would have played in the league hence would then play in the cup game, which he cannot as he is suspended, gosh these football rulee are complicated.

I think we changed pretty much the entire team for the games last year (everyone but Collins for one game rings a bell).