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Quoted from Roast Em Bobby

I came across this the other day - http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/10881263/ultimate-league-reveals-liverpool-are-englands-top-team-followed-by-man-utd-and-arsenal

Town's average league position over the last 50 years is 64th

I saw a similar compilation, maybe 10 years ago or so, and I think we were 23rd.or something like that. i remember we were well ahead of clubs we now think of as big clubs.It just goes to show how the last decade has taken its toll.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I saw a similar compilation, maybe 10 years ago or so, and I think we were 23rd.or something like that. i remember we were well ahead of clubs we now think of as big clubs.It just goes to show how the last decade has taken its toll.

This in spades. There's been 61 seasons since the four division structure came in and during those 61 seasons we've only spent 16 in the bottom (4th) division.

8 or 50% of those seasons have been during the current ownerships tenure. Not to mention the 6 seasons out of the league, but if you do then our board has presided over some 65% of our time at levels 4 and 5 but have only represented the club for just under 25% of that those 61 seasons.

Disproportionately poor under any examination. Interestingly the division we have spent the most time in during those 61 seasons, Div 2/Championship for 22 seasons.

Have you got a link to the 61 seasons stats? Would be interested in having a look.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

This in spades. There's been 61 seasons since the four division structure came in and during those 61 seasons we've only spent 16 in the bottom (4th) division.

8 or 50% of those seasons have been during the current ownerships tenure. Not to mention the 6 seasons out of the league, but if you do then our board has presided over some 65% of our time at levels 4 and 5 but have only represented the club for just under 25% of that those 61 seasons.

Disproportionately poor under any examination. Interestingly the division we have spent the most time in during those 61 seasons, Div 2/Championship for 22 seasons.

This is a good reposte to all those naysayers who insist we are never going to be any good again. All it needs is a vision and the money (I don't ask much!) to make it happen. We must look to the future and believe we can come good again.

Quoted from Roast Em Bobby

Have you got a link to the 61 seasons stats? Would be interested in having a look.

This is my first go at a link here so fingers crossed. Complete league record (one conference year weirdly missing):

[url]http://stats.football.co.uk/league_history/grimsby_town/index.shtml[/url]

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I saw a similar compilation, maybe 10 years ago or so, and I think we were 23rd.or something like that. i remember we were well ahead of clubs we now think of as big clubs.It just goes to show how the last decade has taken its toll.

I used to rent a shop from Bill Carr a lovely bloke and he told me at the time that Grimsby couldn't afford to be as high as we were, so I think population wise, unless we had a big money investor division 1 or 2 is our natural level.

The only problem with historical stats is just that...they are historical...they do not reflect the here and now and the modern game.......a more relevant set of stats would be to look at positions in the "the modern era" ie since the interferance of Sky and the Premier and the wider social economic picture of the country.

And within a couple of seasons the recent massive TV deal monies will effect it all again.

Where we came in 60's,70's,80's has no bearing on what we can achieve now.

Quoted from moosey_club

The only problem with historical stats is just that...they are historical...they do not reflect the here and now and the modern game

I know what you mean, but I don't think anyone's suggesting historical stats reflect where we should be today. It's just something interesting to look at, and a way of measuring how far we've fallen.

If people want to know what reflects the here and now they can simply look at the league table :P

It's pointless comparing the present day with 50 years ago. The UK population has risen hugely during the intervening years and areas of the country where football was looked down upon have adopted it

If you were to walk around Grimsby in 1968 it probably wouldn't look that different to today. Here's what Milton Keynes (for example) looked like in 1968

[img]https://www.citymetric.com/sites/default/files/styles/nodeimage/public/article_2016/08/gettyimages-3364647.jpg?itok=t3DyLwo5[/img]

Quoted from GrimRob

It's pointless comparing the present day with 50 years ago. The UK population has risen hugely during the intervening years and areas of the country where football was looked down upon have adopted it

If you were to walk around Grimsby in 1968 it probably wouldn't look that different to today. Here's what Milton Keynes (for example) looked like in 1968

[img]https://www.citymetric.com/sites/default/files/styles/nodeimage/public/article_2016/08/gettyimages-3364647.jpg?itok=t3DyLwo5[/img]

Is that a bend ??? in Milton Keynes ????

Quoted from GrimRob

It's pointless comparing the present day with 50 years ago. The UK population has risen hugely during the intervening years and areas of the country where football was looked down upon have adopted it

If you were to walk around Grimsby in 1968 it probably wouldn't look that different to today. Here's what Milton Keynes (for example) looked like in 1968

[img]https://www.citymetric.com/sites/default/files/styles/nodeimage/public/article_2016/08/gettyimages-3364647.jpg?itok=t3DyLwo5[/img]

It still looks like that Rob....just that the boundary has been extended a bit ;)

Quoted from GrimRob

It's pointless comparing the present day with 50 years ago. The UK population has risen hugely during the intervening years and areas of the country where football was looked down upon have adopted it

If you were to walk around Grimsby in 1968 it probably wouldn't look that different to today. Here's what Milton Keynes (for example) looked like in 1968

[img]https://www.citymetric.com/sites/default/files/styles/nodeimage/public/article_2016/08/gettyimages-3364647.jpg?itok=t3DyLwo5[/img]

I can see a thatched cottage and we sang that they have no history. :)